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E100: We want another turret!


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Poll: E100 Turrets (976 members have cast votes)

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Do you want another Turret for the e-100?

  1. Yes, we DO want a better choise! (Adler- or Henschel/Royal-Turret!) (923 votes [93.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 93.23%

  2. No, the turrets which are avialable are ok. (Maus- and Krupp-turret.) (67 votes [6.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.77%

If you do want another Turret, which one would you prefer?

  1. The Adler-turret! (672 votes [64.31%])

    Percentage of vote: 64.31%

  2. The Henschel/Royal turret design! (373 votes [35.69%])

    Percentage of vote: 35.69%

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Thor_Hammerschlag #1 Posted 14 May 2011 - 10:49 AM

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Hello there,
reading trough almost every topic i found here (& in the US-forums) about the upcoming heavy, i decided to visualize the wishes of the community concerning turret and armament. Main thread & turret voting:http://www.google.de...dMIjTtAafncDtBg



What we know yet, is that the developers team made 2 turrets for the E100. These turrets where the very first ideas which should have been fitted on  the E100 hull. Lets get it started:

The E100 rolls in the with maus turret, a slow massiv turret, seemingly unpopular but massiv build. Thats alright.
Why to put it as standart turret? Its high likely, that if the hull of the E100 would have ever seen a turret, it would have been this one. On the other hand, it would have never gone in mass production, because this design of turret has already shown its mistakes in 43/44.

The 2nd turret available is the adlerturret, the community prefers this one over everything else, since its design is very well - and to be honest, it has a real bad ass look. The weapen which would be available on that smaler turret is the jagdtigers 12,8cm Pak 44/2, or the standart weapon of the E100, the maus' 12,8cm L55.

The 3rd turret available is the kruppturret - a massiv box design, but may be still better designed than the maus turret. The armor values of this turret are pretty bad, but it has another advantage, which should balance it out: The 15cm KwK L/38.


In General: The concept the community wants to see is a E100 which is playable in 2 ways. A better armored, but worse armed tank or a better armed and worse armored tank. This actually gives it lots of variation and would make it being a pleasure to play.



Lets have a look at the idea:
http://img821.images...feldupdate1.jpg








So how does the Adlerturret look like!?
Terminator210 gaves us a very well first impression, credits for the image go to him:


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Last but not least, the community likes one other turret design, which shouldnt be missing here:
The "Royal" or henschel turret design.
How does the Royal/Henschel Turret design look like?
Its oriented on the kingtigers-turret design, and should really be considered as well:


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Best regards and have fun discussing about the upcoming heavy,
hopefully we can make the moderators take a look at the wishes of the community!







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theta0123 #2 Posted 14 May 2011 - 10:53 AM

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My vote goes for the henschel turret. No doubt. It looks TRES Sexy

(Thor, go make a poll about this. You can do this by editing your first post)

Bodizzly #3 Posted 14 May 2011 - 11:08 AM

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Yes please!

marko4231 #4 Posted 14 May 2011 - 11:22 AM

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Not to forget: the E-100 was to recive the 170mm main gun as soon as its development was finished and it was tested.
So it is a MUST HAVE on the E 100.

Cant wait, finaly a tank is coming that can kick is 7 ass..after months of being pounded by them its time to get even :Smile-izmena:

BRICE #5 Posted 14 May 2011 - 11:45 AM

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Highly doubt it will get a 170mm gun lol, 150 is a maybe.

Thor_Hammerschlag #6 Posted 14 May 2011 - 11:47 AM

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View Posttheta0123, on 14 May 2011 - 10:53 AM, said:

My vote goes for the henschel turret. No doubt. It looks TRES Sexy

(Thor, go make a poll about this. You can do this by editing your first post)

Good idea theta, the poll has been added :)  :Smile-izmena:

Terminator93 #7 Posted 14 May 2011 - 12:43 PM

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My vote goes for the Adler-Turret, i love this one. To the playstyle: You can choose between high firerate and lower damage per shot and highly armoured turret, or you can choose extremly high damage per shot, lower firerate and a less armoured turret. So for the ppl which like to rushin maybe the Adler-Turret with 12,8cm L61 would be the better choice, for support the Krupp turret + 150mm does very well.

Zieten #8 Posted 14 May 2011 - 12:48 PM

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any stats for the Adler-turret and Henschel-turret?

Thor_Hammerschlag #9 Posted 14 May 2011 - 01:03 PM

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View PostTerminator210, on 14 May 2011 - 12:43 PM, said:

My vote goes for the Adler-Turret, i love this one. To the playstyle: You can choose between high firerate and lower damage per shot and highly armoured turret, or you can choose extremly high damage per shot, lower firerate and a less armoured turret. So for the ppl which like to rushin maybe the Adler-Turret with 12,8cm L61 would be the better choice, for support the Krupp turret + 150mm does very well.

Yea this is right what i think.
Hey man, maybe you could send me a picture of your henschel turret design from the same angle as the pic of the adler turret. Than i could add it as well :)

Uncrow #10 Posted 14 May 2011 - 01:06 PM

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Its a Hard Choice.... i Love both Henschel and Adler turret.

I voted Adler cause its shows abit of Innovation for the German tanks.

Which is highly needed for Tier10 where you face Post War Tanks.


So either Adler or Henschel and im sold :)

Terminator93 #11 Posted 14 May 2011 - 01:21 PM

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I can give you the stats for the Adler Turret:
285/210/210
Resulting armour through angles:
341/231/245
Gun mantled is built of a zylinder with two cones with 45° attatched, diameter directly beside the gun: 800mm. It functions as gun bearing too.
The weight:
Ive calculated that it would weight ~ 21 tons, plus or minus a bit.
But thats the empty turret, without gun, ammunition etc.
Turning rate? I think a lot faster as the Maus turret, because if you add the 12,8cm L61 from the JT (weight 3,8 tons) it still doesnt even weight the half of the Maus turret.

TOP_GUN_MAV #12 Posted 14 May 2011 - 02:10 PM

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Do want. They both look so damn good, either of them would be fantastic. I just don't want the devs the screw over the E-100, particularly not simply because they don't want to design a second turret for it (reusing Mausturm is a big no-no for me).

Thor_Hammerschlag #13 Posted 14 May 2011 - 02:22 PM

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To make the vote more fair, I added a better Henschel turret picture from Terminators210 3D model:

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have fun voting :)

DaColdFlash #14 Posted 14 May 2011 - 02:24 PM

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Henschel turret all the way. Don't care if it isn't as heavily protected like the Krupp or Maus one aslong it does get better turret rotation speed, the lower profile and ofcoure that UBER sexy look  :Smile_great:

Terminator93 #15 Posted 14 May 2011 - 02:33 PM

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I prefer the Adler turret over the Henschel turret because it offers a better slope in all directions. And with this a better protection, of course, just the look on its own is damn good.

mil71 #16 Posted 14 May 2011 - 04:48 PM

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They will give us the bulky turret as it would be easy to kill

FrostDX #17 Posted 14 May 2011 - 06:32 PM

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I don't really care about the look of the turrent, if i wanna pretty tank i'll just drive around in KT with stock turrent  :D

The more important thing is - what are the specifications of E-100, hull armor, weight/hp, traverse speed and armor of those turrents...

Sturmtiger_304 #18 Posted 14 May 2011 - 06:49 PM

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Mausturm & Adlerturm for me, thanks.

Tankarou #19 Posted 14 May 2011 - 07:02 PM

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Dont we have to know all the details and specs of all the new tanks
far ahead to know if they meet out expecatons??? and help our decisions???

" we cant buy a pig in a bag''

what if at the end they are not what we expected, could we just say
its alright we lost our time waiting and stop advancing??

and of course at the moment the more secure (and forced) decision is to go
all the way to IS4, just because we are blind to what it comes.





Vahal #20 Posted 14 May 2011 - 08:37 PM

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raching the IS4 is never a bad idea. IS4 is a kickass T9 and will become a freeslot maxed kickass T10 with in bonus the T9 hvy given as substitute.




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