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MadeOfSteel21 #1 Posted 10 April 2014 - 02:21 PM

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So guys, as you already know, I'm the guy who started a topic about some old system, and I was asking if I could run WoT on it!

Now, here comes the real talk!

I have dumped the option of upgrading my old system and now I'm planning to build a newone, so read carefully, these are the specs:

  • Motherboard (Asus M5A99FX Evo R2.0)
  • Processor (AMD FX-4350 Quad-Core @ 4.2 GHz)
  • RAM (Kingston HyperX Beast 8 GB @ 2400 MHz)
  • Graphics Card (Ati Radeon XFX HD 7850 2048 MB 256-bit DDR5)
  • SSD (Kingston V300 60 GB)
  • HDD (x2 WD 160 GB @ 7200 RPM)
  • Power Supply Unit (Corsair VS Series 550W)
  • Case (MS Albatross)
  • Monitor (LG Flatron E2242 @ Full HD)
  • Mouse & Keyboard (MS Acrobat Wireless Gaming Set)

So, that's all I had to say, and I'm pretty sure I can run any kind of game on this system, but I would be very pleased if you guys can answer me on example "How good is this system?", because i didn't buy it yet so that you can tell me what to change. And of course I would like to hear how many FPS would i get from that beast  :)

 

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basin79 #3 Posted 10 April 2014 - 06:30 PM

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Upgrade your PSU.

CrySpy #4 Posted 10 April 2014 - 06:42 PM

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A somewhat fair system. It should run most games fine as long as you are not too concerned about max graphics. With the rather poor optimazation of WOT you would like to go with a CPU that has the most single threaded performance as possible. Intel is superior to AMD in most cases here.

 

Also, your gfx card is "old", AMD has released a new lineup, though several of them are basically rebrands of the generation you are buying. I am not too sure if you could get a better deal. The card is good, though.

 

60 GB on your system drive can be quite limiting. I am trying to keep mine as empty as possible, though I'm still using 40GB. And two 160 GB harddrives? What? Can you even buy harddrives with so little capacity now?



RobinEssex1974 #5 Posted 10 April 2014 - 06:49 PM

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How much are you looking to spend???

 

personally i'd drop the two HDD's go for a larger primary SSD and choose a 1TB for a secondary HDD.

 

secondly get the PSU to be about 600w, that will give more than enough horsepower for your system.

 

and if you happy with an ATI card, go with a 7870, otherwise try for a GTX660



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View PostCrySpy, on 10 April 2014 - 07:42 PM, said:

A somewhat fair system. It should run most games fine as long as you are not too concerned about max graphics. With the rather poor optimazation of WOT you would like to go with a CPU that has the most single threaded performance as possible. Intel is superior to AMD in most cases here.

 

Also, your gfx card is "old", AMD has released a new lineup, though several of them are basically rebrands of the generation you are buying. I am not too sure if you could get a better deal. The card is good, though.

 

60 GB on your system drive can be quite limiting. I am trying to keep mine as empty as possible, though I'm still using 40GB. And two 160 GB harddrives? What? Can you even buy harddrives with so little capacity now?

 

It's really that much better to at least take a 500 GB hard drive. Hell, you can take an existing external harddrive and mount it into the computer case then use that. That's only if OP wants to save on money and actually knows how to do this.

 

Btw, what's the transfer rate on those HDDs?


Edited by Ohaithar, 10 April 2014 - 07:22 PM.


MadeOfSteel21 #7 Posted 10 April 2014 - 07:50 PM

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View PostOhaithar, on 10 April 2014 - 07:22 PM, said:

 

It's really that much better to at least take a 500 GB hard drive. Hell, you can take an existing external harddrive and mount it into the computer case then use that. That's only if OP wants to save on money and actually knows how to do this.

 

Btw, what's the transfer rate on those HDDs?

 

So as I mentioned I have 2 of WD Scorpio Black so here are the specs:

 

 

Hard Drive Features:

  • Form Factor: 2.5″ x 1/8H
  • Capacity: 160 GB
  • Interface Type: Serial ATA 3Gb/s
  • Buffer Size: 16MB
  • Features: Native Command Queuing (NCQ)
  • Seek Time: 12.0 ms (average)
  • Average Latency: 4.20 ms
  • Spindle Speed: 7200 RPM
  • Manufacturer Warranty: 5 year limited warranty


 

 
P.S. This is from their officiall site, i didn't change anything!

Edited by MadeOfSteel21, 10 April 2014 - 08:13 PM.


MadeOfSteel21 #8 Posted 10 April 2014 - 07:52 PM

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View Postbasin79, on 10 April 2014 - 06:30 PM, said:

Upgrade your PSU.

 

You're right, I might upgrade to Corsair VS Series 650W.



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View PostRobinEssex1974, on 10 April 2014 - 06:49 PM, said:

How much are you looking to spend???

 

personally i'd drop the two HDD's go for a larger primary SSD and choose a 1TB for a secondary HDD.

 

secondly get the PSU to be about 600w, that will give more than enough horsepower for your system.

 

and if you happy with an ATI card, go with a 7870, otherwise try for a GTX660

 

Yeah, I know, but that card is really a gamers sweatspot, well I'm not that much of gamer but if it is better I might instead buy R9 270X Reatiled, here are the card's specs:

  • 4 GB Memory
  • DDR5
  • 256-bit


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View PostCrySpy, on 10 April 2014 - 06:42 PM, said:

A somewhat fair system. It should run most games fine as long as you are not too concerned about max graphics. With the rather poor optimazation of WOT you would like to go with a CPU that has the most single threaded performance as possible. Intel is superior to AMD in most cases here.

 

Also, your gfx card is "old", AMD has released a new lineup, though several of them are basically rebrands of the generation you are buying. I am not too sure if you could get a better deal. The card is good, though.

 

60 GB on your system drive can be quite limiting. I am trying to keep mine as empty as possible, though I'm still using 40GB. And two 160 GB harddrives? What? Can you even buy harddrives with so little capacity now?

 

Well, I'm not that much fan of Intel's CPUs, because they are simply too expensive. I could probably instead upgrade from FX-4350 to FX-6350 or FX-8350



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View PostMadeOfSteel21, on 10 April 2014 - 07:50 PM, said:

 

So as I mentioned I have 2 of WD Scorpio Black so here are the specs:

 

 

Model

Brand
Western Digital
Series
Scorpio Black
Model
WD1600BEKT
Packaging
Bare Drive

Performance

Interface
SATA 3.0Gb/s
Capacity
160GB
Cache
16MB
RPM
7200 RPM

Physical Spec

Form Factor
2.5"
Height (maximum)
9.5mm
Width (maximum)
69.75mm
Length (maximum)
100.3mm

Features

Features
Desktop-class performance for notebook computers
Massive capacity
Low power consumption
Quiet
Reliable and rugged
Tested for compatibility
 
P.S. This is from their officiall site, i didn't change anything!

 

Aren't those laptop drives?



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View PostRobinEssex1974, on 10 April 2014 - 06:49 PM, said:

How much are you looking to spend???

 

personally i'd drop the two HDD's go for a larger primary SSD and choose a 1TB for a secondary HDD.

 

secondly get the PSU to be about 600w, that will give more than enough horsepower for your system.

 

and if you happy with an ATI card, go with a 7870, otherwise try for a GTX660

 

Listen, dude. I have chosen the 60 GB SSD just to install Windows 8 on it, and nothing else, and those 2 Scorpio Blacks are pretty fast. I'm not the type of people as I like to call them "horders" (people who just can't uninstall stuff, they just keep on with hording more and more stuff) so I won't need more than 250 GB and yet I'll have 2 of 160 GB which makes 320 GB.

Only stuff I'll install is Windows on SSD and WoT on HDDs. Maybe 1 or 2 more games, not bigger than 10 GB.

Anyways I already have WD External HDD that has space around 1 TB and I'm putting movies, pictures and music on it :) So there is your answer!



MadeOfSteel21 #13 Posted 10 April 2014 - 08:09 PM

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View PostYag0, on 10 April 2014 - 07:58 PM, said:

 

Aren't those laptop drives?

 

Oh sorry, I got the specs from Samsung's Notebooks HDD page, I'll fix it :)

Thanks for the reply!



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View PostMadeOfSteel21, on 10 April 2014 - 02:21 PM, said:

So guys, as you already know, I'm the guy who started a topic about some old system, and I was asking if I could run WoT on it!

Now, here comes the real talk!

I have dumped the option of upgrading my old system and now I'm planning to build a newone, so read carefully, these are the specs:

  • Motherboard (Asus M5A99FX Evo R2.0)
  • Processor (AMD FX-4350 Quad-Core @ 4.2 GHz)
  • RAM (Kingston HyperX Beast 8 GB @ 2400 MHz)
  • Graphics Card (Ati Radeon XFX HD 7850 2048 MB 256-bit DDR5)
  • SSD (Kingston V300 60 GB)
  • HDD (x2 WD 160 GB @ 7200 RPM)
  • Power Supply Unit (Corsair VS Series 550W)
  • Case (MS Albatross)
  • Monitor (LG Flatron E2242 @ Full HD)
  • Mouse & Keyboard (MS Acrobat Wireless Gaming Set)

So, that's all I had to say, and I'm pretty sure I can run any kind of game on this system, but I would be very pleased if you guys can answer me on example "How good is this system?", because i didn't buy it yet so that you can tell me what to change. And of course I would like to hear how many FPS would i get from that beast  :)

 

P.S. Sorry for the bold letters, I simply can not turn them off, ENJOY reading :)

 

 

 

So, I've seen there is too much stuff going around, so I added couple hundred $ to PC build, and yes, that'll be critical to my savings, but I'll manage to do it, so here are the final, well not final, there will ofcourse be more arguments, but these are the ones i really like and all of that costs around 1100 $ (US):

  • Motherboard (Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z)
  • Processor (AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core @ 4.0 GHz)
  • RAM (Kingston HyperX Beast 8 GB @ 2400 MHz)
  • Graphics Card (Msi R9 270X 4096MB, 256-bit, DDR5)
  • SSD (Kingston V300 60GB)
  • HDD (HDD WD 1TB Caviar Black)
  • Power Supply Unit (Corsair VS Series 650W)
  • Case (MS Albatross)
  • Monitor (LG Flatron E2242 @ Full HD)
  • Mouse & Keyboard (MS Acrobat Wireless Gaming Set)

 

 

 



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Looks like a nice build, although PSU looks a little weak.

 

Faaaaaaaar better than mine, I wish I was that lucky! :blinky:

 

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MadeOfSteel21 #16 Posted 11 April 2014 - 12:34 PM

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View PostWoody1999, on 10 April 2014 - 10:37 PM, said:

Looks like a nice build, although PSU looks a little weak.

 

Faaaaaaaar better than mine, I wish I was that lucky! :blinky:

 

Woody

 

Well, as you don't know me , I'm kind of "perfectionist" so I personally like to have everything in nice order, and if possible, the best. But this system that I'm planning to buy is really not necessary! For WoT you don't need more than 4GB of RAM a nice dual-core CPU somwhere around 2.8 to 3.4 GHz and some GPU that has around 512 MB to 1024 MB released in last 4 years! And that kind of system that I just encountered costs around 200$ :)



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There is no need to upgrade your PSU for the purpose of the amount of power you need. The quality of the PSU is perhaps the only thing that you shoould be concerned over as the manufacturer, CWT, is not that good.

 

You should also know that if you can afford a FX-8350 you can easily afford an i3(you are saying that you only need a dual core) and some i5. Since your primary concern is playing WOT you should go with a Intel CPU as they are far superior over AMD when it comes to single threaded performance. But whatever, if you need more ores at the cost of single threaded performance go with it.

 

You should not use the amount of memory in a graphics card as a performance indicator, nor the frequency of a CPU unless they are of the same architecture

 

Also, I would like to stress that a 60GB SSD is very little and you will probably run out of space faster than you'd think.



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View PostCrySpy, on 11 April 2014 - 03:02 PM, said:

There is no need to upgrade your PSU for the purpose of the amount of power you need. The quality of the PSU is perhaps the only thing that you shoould be concerned over as the manufacturer, CWT, is not that good.

 

You should also know that if you can afford a FX-8350 you can easily afford an i3(you are saying that you only need a dual core) and some i5. Since your primary concern is playing WOT you should go with a Intel CPU as they are far superior over AMD when it comes to single threaded performance. But whatever, if you need more ores at the cost of single threaded performance go with it.

 

You should not use the amount of memory in a graphics card as a performance indicator, nor the frequency of a CPU unless they are of the same architecture

 

Also, I would like to stress that a 60GB SSD is very little and you will probably run out of space faster than you'd think.

 

I knew that i don't need more than 550W PSU and it is from Corsair. And when you were talking about GPU the one I have chosen is good for me because I have encountered to run it on far bigger resolution, around 4K, or maybe 3 monitors on Full HD and it is pretty nice quality GPU, R9 series, one of the newer ones. And when I install Windows on SSD I wanted to turn off Windows Updates, because I don't really need them. And yes I will need more than dual-core processor from Intel. I have read that FX-8350 is better than some type of Intel i5s. I won't be playing just WoT. And one more thing, I've heard something that WoT will be supporting multi-core processors because of the new physics and HD Models :)



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Turning off windows updates? I sure hope your OS is perfectly safe and no exploit will ever be found out. Security updates is something you need.

 

4k gaming or a triple monitor setup with that graphics card? Dream on. You will need at least a R9 290X, preferably two to have any decent FPS in newer games.

 

Corsair does not manufacture their PSUs. This means different series have different manufacturers and different quality.  As far as I know the only good Corsair PSUs are the HX, AX and AXi series.

 

i5 will perform worse than the FX-8350 in application that can utilize more than four cores, which certainly most games wont do at all. It is a great server and rendering CPU, but not that great for gaming. Mind you, iit will perform good, but not as good as other options at a similar price when it comes to gaming



ThatsMyJam #20 Posted 11 April 2014 - 08:26 PM

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lol,  ram frequency is almost the same like my CPU :ohmy:


Edited by Teslaptak, 11 April 2014 - 08:28 PM.





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