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Eila_Juutilainen #21 Posted 11 July 2014 - 08:04 AM

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Double-post, but I was right! They couldn't be so stopid as to cut their own arms off.

 

http://ftr.wot-news....-be-soviet-lt8/

 

"Tier 8 Soviet premium medium tank will according to Storm be a “T-54 prototype”."

 

So... probably slower and armour more resembling T-54. Welp, really will be Type 59 2.0 then.


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JuiceQuadre #22 Posted 12 July 2014 - 02:32 PM

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And this tier 8 premium tank is expected in 9.2 or in unknown future?

Eila_Juutilainen #23 Posted 12 July 2014 - 04:15 PM

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No clue.

 

Anyway, more info: http://ftr.wot-news....et-premium-mt8/



rikkelt #24 Posted 12 July 2014 - 05:35 PM

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So how many T-54 clones is that in total? T-54, T-62A, Obj.140, the light tank and the med. Lulz

JuiceQuadre #25 Posted 12 July 2014 - 05:45 PM

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View Postrikkelt, on 12 July 2014 - 06:35 PM, said:

So how many T-54 clones is that in total? T-54, T-62A, Obj.140, the light tank and the med. Lulz


Well if it was up to me id have one for every tier. :d Love these tanks.



JuiceQuadre #26 Posted 12 July 2014 - 05:46 PM

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View PostEila_Juutilainen, on 12 July 2014 - 05:15 PM, said:

No clue.

 

Anyway, more info: http://ftr.wot-news....et-premium-mt8/


Good info thx!



Eila_Juutilainen #27 Posted 13 July 2014 - 06:19 PM

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- Storm confirms, the premium tier 8 Soviet medium tank (T-54 Model 1945) will have 120mm frontal plate
- Storm states that the MT8 Soviet prem will be a slow tank, like the Super Pershing (it won’t be a second Type 59)

 

I don't know what engine the T-54 prototype ran with, but I don't think it will be Super Pershing slow. That chassis has got to be quite a bit lighter.

 

Edit: I just checked. This thing has the same engine as Type 59 and weights about the same. So, judging from Storm's comment I expect them to give it a bit worse terrain resistance, but I don't think this thing will end up slow. Just a bit slower than Type 59.


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With that kind of armour it will have a useless sh*t gun.

Eila_Juutilainen #29 Posted 13 July 2014 - 07:24 PM

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View Postrikkelt, on 13 July 2014 - 08:15 PM, said:

With that kind of armour it will have a useless sh*t gun.

 

The D-10K gun, which according to the article is basically the D-10T we all know and hate.



Vestrick64 #30 Posted 14 July 2014 - 10:38 AM

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According to FTR article, it will be bad.

 

"we don't want another type 59" - yep, but you don't mind another useless Super Pershing, WG? Logic = none

 

Slow? check

no depression? check

undergunned/underpenned? check

typical weakspots of LFP that's autopen for every tank on the tier? check

 

Thx but no thx, I wouldn't want that for free. Dead serious.



Eila_Juutilainen #31 Posted 14 July 2014 - 11:24 AM

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SS does say it's all speculation, though. Let's wait for some real numbers. The depression is bad, but like the article says it could get an unhistorical buff (not like that never happened before), but even if it stays -3, I'm playing Chinese mediums so I'm used to the idea that hills are my enemies rather than my friends.

 

No, the deal breaker for me would be the ground resistance. Lower top speed than Type 59 is one thing. Top speed is good for going cross-country., What I'm concerned about is the acceleration. As it stands, T-54 Mod.45 has the same P/W ratio as Type 59, so if the ground resistance isn't too bad it will still accelerate at acceptable levels. If it can't accelerate or reach it's top speed, then... yeah.



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lol, when I want a medium I want speed and agility and as usual they supply a medium that is neither...

JuiceQuadre #33 Posted 14 July 2014 - 03:32 PM

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Well this really sucks. I hope they rethink it. Whats the point of having slow med with armour not rly better than Type59, possibly worse? meh

Outlawz0111 #34 Posted 14 July 2014 - 10:04 PM

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Candidate for the worse premium tank ever implemented. People have been waiting years for a good soviet premium.

 

- Speed

- Gun Depression

- Traverse

- Gun

 

^ All important of which the T-54 1945 fails upon major time.

 

I would suggest waiting until the end of the year for a proper tier 8 premium medium.



Alkohool #35 Posted 15 July 2014 - 09:25 AM

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typical weakspots of LFP that's autopen for every tank on the tier? check

What do you want? It will have stronk armor, because sometimes some tomato will shoot UFP and will bounce... oh wait, autoaim points LFP. :(

This is bad, really, really bad. We had chance for normal medium, not that stupid hybrids we have now. I wouldn't mind lack of armor on T-54 Lite. Other strengths would compensate it, but nope, WG will make it a light tank, because it has "Light" in the name. Who cares IRL it was never planned to be a light tank. WG Logic®™©. Money was ready for this tank, now it will go somewhere else. WG don't want my money. Their choice...



JuiceQuadre #36 Posted 15 July 2014 - 11:42 AM

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View PostUnfa1rPlane, on 15 July 2014 - 10:25 AM, said:

 

 Money was ready for this tank, now it will go somewhere else. WG don't want my money. Their choice...

 

+1. After buying T34 i wasnt gonna spend any more money on the game except for good premium med.  Was really excited about this... 



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View PostOutlawz0111, on 14 July 2014 - 10:04 PM, said:

Candidate for the worse premium tank ever implemented. People have been waiting years for a good soviet premium.

 

- Speed

- Gun Depression

- Traverse

- Gun

 

^ All important of which the T-54 1945 fails upon major time.

 

I would suggest waiting until the end of the year for a proper tier 8 premium medium.

 

Maybe you will at least wait to see it ingame, hell, at least see the stats before whinning? TY.

 

And what proper tier 8 medium does this mythical end of the year will bring? Panther with L71? :teethhappy:

That one will be trash no matter what, here there is at least some hope for the tank to be fun.



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View PostEokokok, on 15 July 2014 - 12:53 PM, said:

 

Maybe you will at least wait to see it ingame, hell, at least see the stats before whinning? TY.

 

And what proper tier 8 medium does this mythical end of the year will bring? Panther with L71? :teethhappy:

That one will be trash no matter what, here there is at least some hope for the tank to be fun.

Hopefully as they said three tier 8 med premiums would be added this year but im not even going to believe that anyway. 

 

I was hoping for a British Tier 8 Prem Medium, I am sick to death of tanks like the super pershing which serves no purpose in the medium tech tree IMHO, unless you like driving a heap of crap that moves at a snails pace.

 

If this tank the T-54 Model 1945 is added and its sluggish with no gun depression... heavy's do the job better in all aspects like the FCM for instance thats a hybrid between a heavy and a medium i was hoping for something like the FCM but on the US/UK side with insane gun depression.

 

I wont be buying anything with my 20 thousand gold until wargaming stop with the "We cant have another type 59" BS. They don't need to do another slow medium all they need to do is get rid of the Armour we don't need Armour on a medium they don't utilize it properly anyway heavys need amour mediums dont.



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Just make it similar to the t-44, as in give it a bit worse gun but a bit better armour, or something like that... t-44 isnt really too strong so with similar performance id be happy and they dont have to worry about it being OP.

Eila_Juutilainen #40 Posted 15 July 2014 - 11:26 PM

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View PostOutlawz0111, on 15 July 2014 - 08:52 PM, said:

Hopefully as they said three tier 8 med premiums would be added this year but im not even going to believe that anyway. 

 

I was hoping for a British Tier 8 Prem Medium,

 

They're gonna replace FV4202 with a new tier 10 tank soon, this is is confirmed now, so we're expecting that to become the British tier 8 medium premium, with it's historical armour and the 20pdr gun. Shouldn't be hard for them to actually implement, so the waiting will be caused entirely by this new tier 10 vehicle.

 

The German premium has already been announced, it's the Panther 1 with the Panther 2's top gun. Your excitement may vary.


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