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Community #1 Posted 15 April 2014 - 04:02 PM

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Are you eager to try our new game mode? This guide will give you all the information you need to get going!


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*edit* post updated with FAQ 

 

How do I enter Historical Battles?

Historical Battles is a separate game mode. From your garage, click on the game modes button below the ‘Battle!’ button. This will open a dropdown menu and display all the available game modes.

 

Which nations are currently available in Historical Battles?

Currently three nations are available: Germany, the USSR and the USA.

 

Which historical operations can be played in the Historical Battles mode?

Currently there are three different operations: the Battle of Kursk between the Germans and the Soviets, the Battle of the Bulge with the Germans against the Americans and the Lake Balaton Offensive involving Germans against Soviets.

 

How do I choose a tank for a historical battle?

Each battle has a predefined set of tanks that can be played. It’s simple: the tanks you can use are visible in the Historical Battles interface, as well as in the garage. You can either click on the vehicle in the garage or the vehicle icon in the Historical Battles interface.

 

What about the modules? Why can’t I choose modules for my tank?

The modules are predefined for each tank, according to the historical specifications. You do not need to research or buy them for historical battles – they are available immediately. However, for any other battle mode you will still need to research them as usual.

 

What about the ammunition? Why can’t I load it in the usual way?

In Historical Battles each tank has a predefined set of ammunition and it can`t be changed. You have to pay for this predefined set of ammunition before entering the battle. And no, you can’t just load premium shells.

 

What happens if I don’t use all of my ammunition in battle?

The cost of each end every shell that you do not use in a battle will be refunded immediately after the battle at 100% of the value. So, you must enter the battle with a full set of ammunition but you only pay for what you actually use in the battle.

 

And what about consumables and extra equipment?

They can be used in Historical Battles just like in Random Battles.

 

What about the crew, their perks and skills?

Again, they all work normally, just like in any other game mode. So if you have a seasoned veterans in your tanks, it’s better for you and your team!

 

After I entered the battle, my camouflage changed. Why?

It’s because in Historical Battles a historically-based camouflage pattern is used. Please remember that the historical camouflage is applied only if you already have camouflage on your tank ( Winter or Summer for current operations ). Your camouflage will return to its previous form after you exit Historical Battles.

 

I’ve entered the battle but the number of tanks on both sides is very different!

This has been done to reflect the imbalance of power that existed in the real historical battles and is normal.  For example, in the battle of Kursk the Germans had less tanks than the Soviets but they fielded more powerful tanks such as the Tiger I and Panther. The Soviets, on the other hand, relied mostly on superior numbers of T-34/76 tanks. Therefore you can often expect to see one side having less tanks, but more powerful ones.

 

Can I play in platoons in Historical Battles?

Unfortunately platoons are not available in this mode at the moment, but this feature is coming in the future.

 

Are there any special medals in Historical Battles?

Yes, there are some medals that have been created for Historical Battles only. Some examples are the ‘Lessons of History’ medal for playing and winning the Battle of Kursk on each of the opposing sides and the ‘Guardsman’ medal for winning battles while driving a support vehicle (i.e., vehicles of the lowest tier in the battle).

 

What about higher and lower tiers? I have many historical tanks in my garage that I can’t use in this battle mode!

Please remember that right now we have only three historical operations to choose from. We will add more battles at a later date – wait and see what the future brings.

 

What about SPGs? I see light, medium and heavy tanks as well as tank destroyers, but no artillery!

At this stage, SPGs are not available in Historical Battles.  This may change in the future.

 

 


Edited by Ectar, 15 April 2014 - 05:41 PM.


Avendyl #2 Posted 15 April 2014 - 04:09 PM

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Am I the only one to see a top of the tree with WT auf E-100 in the launcher but says "404 not found" ?

 

And nice infos about historical battles ;)


Edited by Avendyl, 15 April 2014 - 04:11 PM.


The_Challenger #3 Posted 15 April 2014 - 04:28 PM

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Oh yes :smile:

 

Spring Awakening begins

Operation Spring Awakening began officially at 04:30 hours on 6 March, commencing with a massive barrage from the artillery of the Sixth SS Panzer Army followed by the advance of the panzergrenadiers of the Leibstandarte.


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Can we get Historical Tankcompanies too? Or something else that allows us to play the historical battles with a coordinated team? My experience on the testserver with random teams was terrible.

The_Challenger #5 Posted 15 April 2014 - 04:42 PM

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View PostI_Manth, on 15 April 2014 - 04:35 PM, said:

Can we get Historical Tankcompanies too? Or something else that allows us to play the historical battles with a coordinated team? My experience on the testserver with random teams was terrible.

 

Platoons not yet :sad:



tank_commandant #6 Posted 15 April 2014 - 04:49 PM

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View PostAvendyl, on 15 April 2014 - 05:09 PM, said:

Am I the only one to see a top of the tree with WT auf E-100 in the launcher but says "404 not found" ?

 

And nice infos about historical battles ;)

Nope, but I hope it will be the waffentrager :great:

 

Check out the top of the tree from the NA server, maybe it will be the same here?

http://worldoftanks.com/en/news/22/on-track-to-the-e100/



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Three historical battles played on: Prokhorovka, Erlenberg, and... Erlenberg again? :confused:

horror11 #8 Posted 15 April 2014 - 05:07 PM

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i tried it in test server and i must say for me  its a useless modus.

Its just not what i expected to be, fighting with a kv1s with 86 pen  (if i remember well) against tiger 2 isnt really fun at all and keep in mind that the hp pool remains the same , so you have to face a tiger2 or jagttiger with a sherman and doesnt even have a equal amount of hp let alone no adequate gun to pen that tanks.

its just not balanced so it is no fun at all (at least for me it wasnt) unless you play german tier8 and higher Tanks .



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At some point in test, Panther M10 was present as playable tank in Battle of Bulge, then it was removed. I haven't seen explanation on this, even though devs explained that Jagdtigers weren't present when they were removed.  Were these vehicles actually fighting there?

 

Edit: also, the MM picture from Prokhorovka isn't necessarily the most flattering :D


Edited by LordRoyh, 15 April 2014 - 05:16 PM.


Rokim #10 Posted 15 April 2014 - 05:27 PM

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Anyone see this picture on prokhorovka? rofl

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the first post has been updated now with an FAQ

kivipea #12 Posted 15 April 2014 - 05:44 PM

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Will their be more historical battles ??? or only 3 ??

Savash #13 Posted 15 April 2014 - 05:54 PM

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As usual the german side will have a great disadvantage right from the start. If they can't nerf the vehicles they will force you to fight 5 vs 10. Russia has to win no matter what...

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View PostLordRoyh, on 15 April 2014 - 05:14 PM, said:

At some point in test, Panther M10 was present as playable tank in Battle of Bulge, then it was removed. I haven't seen explanation on this, even though devs explained that Jagdtigers weren't present when they were removed.  Were these vehicles actually fighting there?

 

JadgTigers were at the Battle of the Bulge weren't they? I've seen 2 TV documentaries detailing them in the battle. Panther M10 was prepared for Battle of Bulge offensive but never actually fought, so I suppose that's a grey area. Hopefully one day when this mode is fully developed, WG will let us use all WW2 premiums in historic battles (or an associated WW2 only mode), cuz they're nothing but WW2 tech, would have been manufactured & in-service but for compromising circumstances, and their modules are already exactly how they would have been in WW2 (eg Lowe has correct gun, KingTiger in randoms has gun too big).

 

I just can't wait for the historic battle mode. Ok so it's new and therefore very limited at the moment with some flaws, but it will only get better and for me it's the most exciting thing WOT's could be doing. Just excellent, well done WG on getting it this far already :-)



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View PostLordRoyh, on 15 April 2014 - 05:14 PM, said:

At some point in test, Panther M10 was present as playable tank in Battle of Bulge, then it was removed. I haven't seen explanation on this, even though devs explained that Jagdtigers weren't present when they were removed.  Were these vehicles actually fighting there?

 

Edit: also, the MM picture from Prokhorovka isn't necessarily the most flattering :D

As I understand it only 3 Panther M10 tanks ever existed. All three only got used in the Battle of  the Bulge. One was destroyed and the other two ended up in the hands of the US forces as they followed up the German withdrawal at the end of the battle. So it would be reasonable for the tank to be in any historical battle for the Bulge. Did the real Panther M10 tanks have the gun and performance of the one in the game. That I don't know and could be the reason it is not in the mix. Or it could be simply that it is a premium tank and wg don't want premiums in the game mode.

 

I have no idea if the Jagdtiger was used in the Battle of the Bulge. But if the Germans had some in the western front its more than likely some of them would have been assigned to the battle plan. 



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I was looking to the new mode "Historical Battles" to reignite my interest in WoT , i was even considering going back to buying premium time to support the game,  However after reading on FTR that they intend to nerf the only tanks i enjoy playing ie German tanks again ,esp the Tiger 1,and still no word of any changes to the KV1s or Hellcat, i am now doubly convinced that they are just not worth funding anymore. The Russian bias is once again coming to the fore and i for one feel no inclination to pay for that.

Ulfhedinn_ #17 Posted 15 April 2014 - 06:48 PM

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The nerfs are to make the tanks historically accurate though, cuz like the Tiger1 in randoms, it's gun is way too big, it's actually the gun the KingTiger had. And the KingTiger's gun in randoms, again too big for it, that's more or less the gun that the Lowe would have had (and needed to be 30% bigger and heavier in order to handle). In a similar way, the Hellcat will be nerfed when it appears in historic battles, so it can only use the 76mm gun it was really mounted with, and not the 90mm gun that in reality only the Jackson had. And the KV1s - if that's even allowed in historic battles, that will have to have an 85mm gun.

 

The nerfs on tanks for historic battles only exist in that mode. When you go back to playing that tank in random, it will be normal again without any of the historic nerfs.



Steffenximus #18 Posted 15 April 2014 - 06:59 PM

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Worst mode ever. Allies win all the time. Wanna have fun, get SU-152. It kills Tiger in 2 shots - FRONTALLY


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View PostSteffenximus, on 15 April 2014 - 05:59 PM, said:

Worst mode ever. Allies win all the time. Wanna have fun, get SU-152. It kills Tiger in 2 shots - FRONTALLY

 

 

As he said ,,is it even worth playing the Germans when the odds are stacked against them.



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It's bound to be unbalanced when they first introduce it though, these things will get ironed out as they compile real stats and see how the games are playing. I agree there is some Russian bias in game, like in the prem tanks, but not so much in the tech tree and I'm sure in the long run historic battles will balance out just fine. AND, according to what WG previously said the stats from these historic battles aren't being added to your global stats and are compiled separately, so trying it out and bearing with it until it's become more sophisticated / balanced won't do any harm, even if you're playing German and are disadvantaged at first.

 

EDIT - and from a historic point of view, the Germans were always at a disadvantage, that's why the victories they achieved were so stunning and shocked the World so much. When it turns up in game Battle of France should be a doozy, the Germans didn't stand a chance! :-)


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