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MrKristensen #141 Posted 18 June 2011 - 09:24 PM

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View PostDigitalPsycho, on 17 June 2011 - 08:26 AM, said:

i'm not sure what do u want to say, because ther are NO tier 10 mediums in this game!
The highest Medium what u can get is Tier 9.

Too much alcohol on the evening I wrote it.... My bad.

Kalann #142 Posted 21 June 2011 - 03:53 PM

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Yes, tools do happen with the "matchmaker", but to complain that your getting put in against comparable tier tanks, and not permanently top tank, well I cant even be bothered to say.

I cant remember having been in matches with you, but I do remember the ranters, the what the hell ya doing noob.. die noob attitude.

If you actually remembered that your talking to human beings and treated them with some degree of respect, you may actually find you get a better response than the tone you use in this post.

Also to take credit for winning the "match" and ignore any contribution from your 14 fellow players is fairly pathetic.

You may say some tactics at the start and some may follow it up, but the reality of the situation is that most random matches dont really use any tactics, simply because those people dont really have any way to communicate with each other fast enough.

If you think the T54 isn't Op'd, then you must be the only person i've come across that doesn't think that.

Yes the matchmaker does match up mediums against heavies, which seems to be fairly unfair, but having watched a well played T44, your little brother, go up against an IS-3, IS, and KV-5, that were all on our base, and rape all three, quite clearly soviet high tier medium tanks are fairly powerful, he was bouncing their shots left right and center, and using smartness to outmanouver them.

So quite clearly the player makes far more difference than the tank.

Given that your such an awesome player, why do you struggle so much against comparable tier tanks?

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View PostKalann, on 21 June 2011 - 03:53 PM, said:

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No T44 can win against equal skill IS3/Is/KV5 all united. He can win if he's an excellent player and those are dumb AND ONE BY ONE. All 3 united, if they're good players, he has no chance. So it means he was a good player and those were noobs. Not the tank. IF WHAT YOU TOLD IS TRUE AND NOT INVENTED.
I'm ready to do a training with everybody. He comes with a T44 and we with the other tanks. He will not stand a chance.

This is why I'm complaining. 3 T54s NOW (after the nerf they suffered) don't have a chance against 3 IS4s. Equal skill of course. T54 is "Op" only cause he's much more prone to deflect shots from tier 7 and down frontally. While Panther2 ad pershing don't. But against a tier 9 gun, nothing to hope. Plus I'm not struggling, I got 70% with that too. Cause since I posted this topic seems like that stuff doesn't happen so much. Looks like they heard me  :Smile_great:. I hope so at least  :Smile-hiding:

Unkel_Dolan #144 Posted 21 June 2011 - 05:48 PM

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I think Overlord said in Q&A or somewhere else that player stats aren't taken into account by matchmaker. I don't remember for sure.

But yes more and more I'm top tank in Panther 2 and matched against IS-4. Sometimes 2 Panther 2 (no platoon) matched against 2 IS-4, sometimes even worse. It's possible to win of course but it's not a fair fight from the start. In a match with 3 or 4 T10 it doesn't matter if I'm matched against a T9 heavy, but when I'm the only T9 in the match it can be a real handicap especially on small peek-a-boo maps.

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Nevermind. The devs didn't do anything. Still mediums are paired against heavies. And still suicidal teammates.

Oh, I don't give a about what they say. The winning ratio matters on the matchmaking. Heavier than everything else. The more you have, the worse your team is.

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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHHA

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GG devs  :Smile_great:

WHERE IS THE BALANCE IN THIS ? Where ? How are we supposed to win this ? I'd really like to place all the devs randomly without them knowing in the mediums here and challenge them. Everytime they lose I take 100 euros from their wages.

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Wow this is sad, and they're stacked like that without even any platoon.
I thought I had it bad earlier today with that:
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4 heavies top tank vs 4 mediums, 7 mediums total on our side and only 1 on their side on a close combat map. We managed to make it close but we still lost. They didn't even bother with tactics, 2 IS-4 and one T34 rolled just straight through the tracks to our cap with a bunch of other behind them.

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Eh, ours was just.....meh

kymrel #149 Posted 22 June 2011 - 11:24 PM

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This type of rubbish is why I have moved to heavies. Now when I end up in matches with lots of meds on one side and heavies on the other I tend to be on the winning side. This should be fixed, but I bet it will not be. "Working as intended" seems to be the standard reply. As if the ideas are only good if they come from the devs them selves, not the community. You know, the people who play the game.

Zaany #150 Posted 23 June 2011 - 08:15 AM

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All i can say about the original post : STATWHORE  :angry: Go find some other place to increase the size of ur E-Penis  <_<

There is no need for language like that and insults.
No matter how provoked you may be - please stay civilized and address to other members with respect. Failing to heed the warning will lead to ban in future

Edited by BigBadVuk, 23 June 2011 - 11:49 AM.
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View PostMARMIST, on 22 June 2011 - 07:55 PM, said:

Nevermind. The devs didn't do anything. Still mediums are paired against heavies. And still suicidal teammates.

Oh, I don't give a about what they say. The winning ratio matters on the matchmaking. Heavier than everything else. The more you have, the worse your team is.

No, it doesn't.

But the matchmaking sucks BAAAAD with tierIX mediums. Combine this with fact that driving and doing well with medium requires so much more skill that in heavys and look at the stats of common mediumm driver and you find the reason for team feeling bad most of the time.

On one post you compared 3x IS-4's vs. 3x T-54's. I'm thinking that in his current state 3x T-54's can't even beat 3xIS-3's.(Equal skills)

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View Posttrispect, on 23 June 2011 - 09:23 AM, said:

On one post you compared 3x IS-4's vs. 3x T-54's. I'm thinking that in his current state 3x T-54's can't even beat 3xIS-3's.(Equal skills)
This I would tend to disagree with. Equal skill I would bet on the T-54s. Simply much better ability to dictate the engagement, concentrate on one single tank at a time etc. Meds excel at hit and fade and getting flanks. On an open field and starting at long range, sure the heavies would win, and should win. But with terrain the meds should win.

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View Postkymrel, on 23 June 2011 - 10:01 AM, said:

This I would tend to disagree with. Equal skill I would bet on the T-54s. Simply much better ability to dictate the engagement, concentrate on one single tank at a time etc. Meds excel at hit and fade and getting flanks. On an open field and starting at long range, sure the heavies would win, and should win. But with terrain the meds should win.

If heavys concentrate on single tank at a time, T-54 is possible to shot down with alpha strike. T-54's can win if they manage to start the encounter on spot which is favourable to them AND manage to get alpha first AND avoid being hit with the first enemy shot.

Where T-54's fail at is the last part, because after ninja nerfs T8 heavys hardly ever bounce and tend to do maximum damage most of the time.

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View Posttrispect, on 23 June 2011 - 10:35 AM, said:

after ninja nerfs T8 heavys hardly ever bounce and tend to do maximum damage most of the time.

I'm actually nto complainin much about it, cause so neither P2 or pershing do. But hell, not against heavies...And in the up photo, they also have 2 tier 9 more than us. Come on...

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View PostMARMIST, on 23 June 2011 - 11:49 AM, said:

I'm actually nto complainin much about it, cause so neither P2 or pershing do. But hell, not against heavies...
Well they never did and they have better guns and more hp. IMO T-54 is currently weakest of T9 mediums. Still good scout though. But I kinda lost you on the last part. What do you mean with "not against heavies"?


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And in the up photo, they also have 2 tier 9 more than us. Come on...
Yes, I know matchmaker is f*cked up. But I hardly think that that has anything to do with persons W/L-ratio.

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View PostMARMIST, on 22 June 2011 - 09:22 PM, said:

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHHA

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WHERE IS THE BALANCE IN THIS ?

I have played the T-54 in open beta, and i grinded one up once again.
The screenshot you posted looks very familiar, i have been in matches just like that one.
Don't get me wrong, i have no problem playing against tier 10 tanks.
But how can you put up 6 mediums against 6 heavy's?
Specially now people start seeing/treating Tier 9 mediums as "Luxery Scouts"

It just doesnt make any sense to me..

It feels like the Chewbacca Defense..

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View Posttrispect, on 23 June 2011 - 12:18 PM, said:

1)Well they never did and they have better guns and more hp. IMO T-54 is currently weakest of T9 mediums. Still good scout though. But I kinda lost you on the last part. What do you mean with "not against heavies"?
2)Yes, I know matchmaker is f*cked up. But I hardly think that that has anything to do with persons W/L-ratio.


1)That T54 is better against low tier tanks. But not against tier 9 heavies who will not bounce it

2)I keep believeing that if a player enters a battle and he has more than 60% wins, the game automatically places him in a battle with more guys with less than 50%.

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View PostMARMIST, on 22 June 2011 - 09:22 PM, said:

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHHA
GG devs  :Smile_great:

WHERE IS THE BALANCE IN THIS ? Where ? How are we supposed to win this ? I'd really like to place all the devs randomly without them knowing in the mediums here and challenge them. Everytime they lose I take 100 euros from their wages.

agree ... worst "ballance" I ever seen in this game ... jesuschrist

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i am mad


mad about internet tanks

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This was a game earlier, and guess what happened? All of them sat in their base.




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