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Community #1 Posted 28 April 2014 - 03:33 PM

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Monster95alpha19 #2 Posted 28 April 2014 - 03:56 PM

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seriously?...winning a revolt and leaving the map would mean to get 75% of the VP of how much the owner could kept it but then, if we leave the map after we won the revolt, do we remain with the ammount of VP or do we lose also 75% for leaving it..

Fynnegun #3 Posted 28 April 2014 - 04:03 PM

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View PostTitaniu, on 28 April 2014 - 04:56 PM, said:

seriously?...winning a revolt and leaving the map would mean to get 75% of the VP of how much the owner could kept it but then, if we leave the map after we won the revolt, do we remain with the ammount of VP or do we lose also 75% for leaving it..

 

By using the "Leave Global Map" button, you will lose all the VPs you gained from ownership, this was made based on player's feedback during the 2nd campaign, many complained about the clans abusing this button.



zerosumgame #4 Posted 28 April 2014 - 04:12 PM

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" We strongly recommend enabling “Replay recording” in the game options."

 

Hmm, I can't play with replays enables else I get CTD. Should I contact support already before this event starts?



SanyaJuutilainen #5 Posted 28 April 2014 - 04:58 PM

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View PostTitaniu, on 28 April 2014 - 04:56 PM, said:

seriously?...winning a revolt and leaving the map would mean to get 75% of the VP of how much the owner could kept it but then, if we leave the map after we won the revolt, do we remain with the ammount of VP or do we lose also 75% for leaving it..

There are two cases:

- You have a landing or a standard map with revolt. You stayed there for 4 days

- You have a standard battle. You stayed there for 4 days

 

In both cases someone attacks you and wins.

 

- In the first case, you keep 100 VP, the clan defeating you gets 300 VP

- In the second case you keep all 400VP

 

It's an incentive for both landed and landing clans - unless you are SURE that you can defend a landing, you should move into the land inside, because you'll keep your VP there. At the same time, the longer you are at a landing, the tougher it'll be, because stronger clans will be lured to you by the great reward for landing there.

 

I see quite a few interesting improvements from the last campaign in the rules, GJ to WG from me.



AngryApple #6 Posted 28 April 2014 - 05:05 PM

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View PostNya_Chan, on 28 April 2014 - 05:58 PM, said:

There are two cases:

- You have a landing or a standard map with revolt. You stayed there for 4 days

- You have a standard battle. You stayed there for 4 days

 

In both cases someone attacks you and wins.

 

- In the first case, you keep 100 VP, the clan defeating you gets 300 VP

- In the second case you keep all 400VP

second case is wrong according to this part of the rules:

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 2.4.  A clan that loses any province as a result of any battle loses 75% of the Victory Points gained during the time the province was under the clan’s control (for example, if a clan loses a province it had owned for 24 hours then that clan will also lose 1,800 Victory Points). 25% of the Victory Points are secure for the clan and remain untouchable until the game event ends.

 only difference with losing it through revolt or landing is that no other clan gets your points, they are simply gone now.

 



knightM #7 Posted 28 April 2014 - 05:30 PM

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View PostDecept1on, on 28 April 2014 - 05:03 PM, said:

 

By using the "Leave Global Map" button, you will lose all the VPs you gained, this was made based on player's feedback during the 2nd campaign, many complained about the clans abusing this button.

 

That's not 100% what the rules say at the moment: 

 

1.7.  If a clan makes a move between the two maps during the World on Fire event or leaves a map completely, all Victory Points farmed as a result of their ownership of any provinces will be lost.

 

from the other article:

 

If a clan wins in a Revolt battle or during a landing tournament then 75% of the Victory Points farmed from that province by that province’s ex-owner during the time of its ownership will go to the victorious clan (for example, if a clan wins in a Revolt battle or during a landing tournament against an enemy who has owned a province for 10 turns, the winning clan will receive 750 Victory Points).

 

the clan that won a Revolt battle got VPs by winning the revolt..... not by province ownership.

 

It does seem most logical to loose all VPs if you click the "leave map" button, but based on previous experience (especially during phase 2 of second campaign) it would be good to get 100% clarification in the rules with wording that can not be misunderstood. And it's better to start clearing out misunderstandings when there is still enough time.

 



Fynnegun #8 Posted 28 April 2014 - 05:43 PM

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View PostknightM, on 28 April 2014 - 06:30 PM, said:

 

That's not 100% what the rules say at the moment: 

 

1.7.  If a clan makes a move between the two maps during the World on Fire event or leaves a map completely, all Victory Points farmed as a result of their ownership of any provinces will be lost.

 

from the other article:

 

If a clan wins in a Revolt battle or during a landing tournament then 75% of the Victory Points farmed from that province by that province’s ex-owner during the time of its ownership will go to the victorious clan (for example, if a clan wins in a Revolt battle or during a landing tournament against an enemy who has owned a province for 10 turns, the winning clan will receive 750 Victory Points).

 

the clan that won a Revolt battle got VPs by winning the revolt..... not by province ownership.

 

It does seem most logical to loose all VPs if you click the "leave map" button, but based on previous experience (especially during phase 2 of second campaign) it would be good to get 100% clarification in the rules with wording that can not be misunderstood. And it's better to start clearing out misunderstandings when there is still enough time.

 

 

http://worldoftanks....ire-vpfp-guide/

 

If a clan makes a move between two maps during the World on Fire event or leaves the map completely, all Victory Points acquired as a result of any province ownership will be lost.

 

I hope this clears the question :)



KLguns #9 Posted 28 April 2014 - 07:24 PM

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Excited???? No, could not care less...

ScoutingForGirls #10 Posted 28 April 2014 - 11:12 PM

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2.5. NPCs are excluded from the count but receive and lose Victory Points like other participants in the event. If a clan conquers a province that the NPC owned, the clan will receive 75% of the Victory Points that the previous owner gained from that province.

 

Dafuq is an NPC?



Tarantula_xD #11 Posted 29 April 2014 - 05:16 AM

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View Postmelvynator, on 28 April 2014 - 11:12 PM, said:

2.5. NPCs are excluded from the count but receive and lose Victory Points like other participants in the event. If a clan conquers a province that the NPC owned, the clan will receive 75% of the Victory Points that the previous owner gained from that province.

 

Dafuq is an NPC?

Non-player character


Edited by Tarantula, 29 April 2014 - 05:16 AM.


Clydefrosch #12 Posted 29 April 2014 - 08:19 AM

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Question:

Will there be other multiplicators for the FP? Like missions, Rank-Mulitplicators etc. like in the last campaign?

Or is it just the x5 for province battles?



Infinity_ #13 Posted 29 April 2014 - 09:35 AM

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So let me get this straight.

Lets say totally theoretically that some tomato clan will own 5 provinces from beginning of re-division on 13th May. They will farm till 21May all these provinces, its 8 full days 8x2400VP=19200VP and on 22nd May purple top clan will wipe them of the map, so the top clan will recive 14400VP just by entering the map and the end of the event and the tomato clan will have only 4800VP? Whats the point of that? Would it be wiser to do ability to leave the map with VP in bank once per 4 days ? 

As I see it it will look like this, top clan will land as usual where every they want and they will sit there and farm VP owning one landing province, so tomato or banana clans will try to land that will give top clans fapPoints mining. There will be not much fights against top clan because every one will want to farm VPs(except the end of event). 

Leaving map and loosing all VPs its pointless rule, for the map to have a lot of battles this rule should be changed. 

But we will see how it will turns out.


Edited by Infinity_, 29 April 2014 - 10:05 AM.


Clydefrosch #14 Posted 29 April 2014 - 10:46 AM

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View PostInfinity_, on 29 April 2014 - 09:35 AM, said:

So let me get this straight.

Lets say totally theoretically that some tomato clan will own 5 provinces from beginning of re-division on 13th May. They will farm till 21May all these provinces, its 8 full days 8x2400VP=19200VP and on 22nd May purple top clan will wipe them of the map, so the top clan will recive 14400VP just by entering the map and the end of the event and the tomato clan will have only 4800VP? Whats the point of that? Would it be wiser to do ability to leave the map with VP in bank once per 4 days ? 

As I see it it will look like this, top clan will land as usual where every they want and they will sit there and farm VP owning one landing province, so tomato or banana clans will try to land that will give top clans fapPoints mining. There will be not much fights against top clan because every one will want to farm VPs(except the end of event). 

Leaving map and loosing all VPs its pointless rule, for the map to have a lot of battles this rule should be changed. 

But we will see how it will turns out.

 

Basicly this is what happened in the 1st Stage of the last campaign.

If a clan had a province for 3 days or longer, purple and blue clans tried to land there on the next riot to get the VP.

 

U need a lot of battles for FP anyway. So there is no point in holding Provinces without fights on them.

I think stronk klanus may leave the map after three-four days of intensive conquering (for FP) and land on riots to get VP - BUT - they have the disadvantage that the VPs from holding provinces are lost.

So I think, these rules are quite good.

 

Is there someone who can answer my question above about multiplicators to FP?



ZEUS_XD #15 Posted 29 April 2014 - 11:43 AM

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one more thing that should be clear is what is the chance for riots comparing to normal cw and 2nd campaign

 

if there is regular ammount of revolts it will be hard to farm VP this way



Nekrodamus #16 Posted 29 April 2014 - 12:44 PM

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"The main goal is to battle for territories in conditions with an increased probability of revolts."

 

I guess it will be exactly like in the first phase of the last campaign: Chances for a riot are allways 100% and the number of riots is related to the number of your provinces (1 with 2, 2 with 4 and so on).

 

 

If a clan goes for VP, keeping provinces doesn't make sense at all. Get in as much riots as possible per day, collect "save" VP and try to get even more gold with most won riots and most victories (landing battles are not excluded for the medals).



Infinity_ #17 Posted 29 April 2014 - 03:30 PM

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WG_EU answer like WG_RU does please.

According to WG_RU Developer fluke (http://forum.worldof..._st__60#topmost)

If clan leave the map it looses only VP that it farmed on the provinces clan was siting on ? or is it looses every VP it gained from previous battles\provinces as well ? 

example Clan owned a province for 40h it give them 4k VP, than they lose the province in battle so because it was theirs only province they will have 1000VP in bank or whatever, after that they decide to land somewhere else they win 1 or 2 provinces, and suddenly they realize that time frame\maps in provinces close to them are not what they like so they decide to leave the map.

What will happen to clan VP's after this

Answers:

a)they lose all VP they had including that 1000VP gained from that 40h owned province

b)they lose all VP they farmed since they land elsewhere but they got that 1000VP in bank 

 

EDIT:

Spoiler

 

Sorry I don't speak russian and google.translate isn't that good can someone explain above problem ?


Edited by Infinity_, 29 April 2014 - 03:45 PM.


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View PostDecept1on, on 28 April 2014 - 06:43 PM, said:

 

http://worldoftanks....ire-vpfp-guide/

 

If a clan makes a move between two maps during the World on Fire event or leaves the map completely, all Victory Points acquired as a result of any province ownership will be lost.

 

I hope this clears the question :)

 

 

From NA server rules:

All Victory Points earned as a result of province ownership will be lost if a clan moves between the two maps during the “World on Fire” event or uses the leave a map button.  The initial 75% that is taken from the previous owner will NOT be lost.

 

http://worldoftanks....-fame-vp-guide/

 

This is basically the opposite of what you are saying. Can we get a 100% clarification?

 thank you.


Edited by knightM, 29 April 2014 - 03:57 PM.


Desp #19 Posted 29 April 2014 - 04:07 PM

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You pick worst possible stage rules from all the history of campaigns, make own mini special for it... Why i'm not surprised. Finetuning "itself" doesnt make it any less.

 

This going to be even more retarded now when people actually did see what happened in campaign 2 stage 1...



Infinity_ #20 Posted 29 April 2014 - 04:14 PM

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knightM, on 29 April 2014 - 04:53 PM, said:

 

 

From NA server rules:

All Victory Points earned as a result of province ownership will be lost if a clan moves between the two maps during the “World on Fire” event or uses the leave a map button.  The initial 75% that is taken from the previous owner will NOT be lost.

 

http://worldoftanks....-fame-vp-guide/ 1.7. If a clan makes a move between the two maps during the World on Fire event or leaves a map completely, all Victory Points farmed as a result of their ownership of any provinces will be lost

But than again is this ATNOTHER WG EU FAIL ?

 

http://worldoftanks....es-regulations/

 1.7. If a clan makes a move between the two maps during the World on Fire event or leaves a map completely, all Victory Points farmed as a result of their ownership of ANY provinces will be lost.

 

I'm confused.

 





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