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Finnyan #21 Posted 29 April 2014 - 05:05 PM

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View PostInfinity_, on 29 April 2014 - 04:30 PM, said:

WG_EU answer like WG_RU does please.

According to WG_RU Developer fluke (http://forum.worldof..._st__60#topmost)

If clan leave the map it looses only VP that it farmed on the provinces clan was siting on ? or is it looses every VP it gained from previous battles\provinces as well ? 

example Clan owned a province for 40h it give them 4k VP, than they lose the province in battle so because it was theirs only province they will have 1000VP in bank or whatever, after that they decide to land somewhere else they win 1 or 2 provinces, and suddenly they realize that time frame\maps in provinces close to them are not what they like so they decide to leave the map.

What will happen to clan VP's after this

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a)they lose all VP they had including that 1000VP gained from that 40h owned province

b)they lose all VP they farmed since they land elsewhere but they got that 1000VP in bank 

 

EDIT:

Spoiler

 

Sorry I don't speak russian and google.translate isn't that good can someone explain above problem ?

 

For each answer I give, not matter what the answer is, I get a minus "because you don't like the answer" ;)

 

View PostknightM, on 29 April 2014 - 04:53 PM, said:

 

 

From NA server rules:

All Victory Points earned as a result of province ownership will be lost if a clan moves between the two maps during the “World on Fire” event or uses the leave a map button.  The initial 75% that is taken from the previous owner will NOT be lost.

 

http://worldoftanks....-fame-vp-guide/

 

This is basically the opposite of what you are saying. Can we get a 100% clarification?

 thank you.

 

If you press the "Leave global map" button during the event, the clan will lose all VPs accumulated from farming (ownership of provinces), the points gathered from reaping enemy provinces will not be taken.

 

See RU rules, it's the same:

http://worldoftanks...._on_fire_rules/

 

View PostClydefrosch, on 29 April 2014 - 09:19 AM, said:

Question:

Will there be other multiplicators for the FP? Like missions, Rank-Mulitplicators etc. like in the last campaign?

Or is it just the x5 for province battles?

 

No other multiplier, see point 3 of http://worldoftanks....es-regulations/

 



Infinity_ #22 Posted 29 April 2014 - 07:59 PM

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View PostDecept1on, on 29 April 2014 - 06:05 PM, said:

For each answer I give, not matter what the answer is, I get a minus "because you don't like the answer" ;)

 

Sorry m8 wrong adress, I'm not giving You any -.

Hell in fact i just give you an nice piece of + 



Clydefrosch #23 Posted 29 April 2014 - 09:41 PM

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+1 Decept1on thanks for the answer

Yndy_ #24 Posted 30 April 2014 - 10:06 AM

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So everyone, what's your view, what's the best strategy for farming VPs?

As far as I read, it's about always going in for revolts in provinces which have an owner for two days or more, than leaving the map and attacking another revolting/landing province as long as you're confident you will win.

 

For farming FPs, it seems like the best option is to go for as many landings per evening as possible and progressing until battling with owner in at least one landing. That would be giving up to 15X FPs per night per active player and in some rare cases more.

 

Another option for FPs would be to have land on the map and play as many encounter battles as possible, to have 10X or more multiplier. I've never seen a situation like that, but what if seven different owners from neighboring provinces, attack the same province, will there be an encounter tournament with up to 3 battles, plus battle with owner? That would mean 20X FP.


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knightM #25 Posted 30 April 2014 - 12:52 PM

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TBH the FPs will be exploited... again.

 

For mediocre clans (that are good enough to stay on the map). there will be lot of "attacks" with predefined outcomes, even though they wont be played with 15 TOG IIs like last time. The system does invite for this.

 

 

 



bradley86 #26 Posted 01 May 2014 - 03:21 PM

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So we need slave clans to hold provinces which they "lose" against our clan in the last days. So much fun staging battles again and playing on other accounts. Gj WG.

Edited by bradley86, 01 May 2014 - 03:21 PM.


upnincs #27 Posted 04 May 2014 - 02:02 PM

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Our clan is rather casual and we don't usually do Clan Wars because we don't have enough high level tanks / people online.

But we think this event may give us a chance to do some fighting up to tier 8 and maybe even walk away with something nice.

 

Do you experienced CW players have any advice to offer? How should we proceed? Which territories are good targets for a beginner clan?

If we aim for the gift tank, what would be a reliable strategy to gather some fame points?

 

Finally, anyone knows about a good, detailed tutorial about the high level CW mechanics, including landings, revolts and the like?

 

Many thanks in advance. :)



optimusbarrettprime #28 Posted 04 May 2014 - 10:23 PM

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View PostDecept1on, on 28 April 2014 - 04:03 PM, said:

 

By using the "Leave Global Map" button, you will lose all the VPs you gained from ownership, this was made based on player's feedback during the 2nd campaign, many complained about the clans abusing this button.


Is this the same for fame points aswell?

 

 

 



Rhinogobius #29 Posted 05 May 2014 - 11:11 AM

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Is entire world meant to be on Tier X - i thought Africa 6 Med 8 Europe 10 - but whole map is X at moment?

Finnyan #30 Posted 05 May 2014 - 02:34 PM

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View PostRhinogobius, on 05 May 2014 - 12:11 PM, said:

Is entire world meant to be on Tier X - i thought Africa 6 Med 8 Europe 10 - but whole map is X at moment?

 

Normal map is now switched to:

T10 Europe

T8 Mediterranean

T6 Africa

 

Event map is now in test mode in T10 until World on Fire starts then it will switch to T8.



Finnyan #31 Posted 05 May 2014 - 02:34 PM

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View Postoptimusbarrettprime, on 04 May 2014 - 11:23 PM, said:

 

 

Fame Points stay on the player's account, no matter what; even if you change clan.



optimusbarrettprime #32 Posted 05 May 2014 - 03:16 PM

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View PostDecept1on, on 05 May 2014 - 02:34 PM, said:

 

Fame Points stay on the player's account, no matter what; even if you change clan.


Cheers buddy



GeneralBierkoenig #33 Posted 11 May 2014 - 11:54 AM

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Does someone know, whether the map gets completly wiped or not?

And 2nd.) Whats about the chip freeze and when is the end of the test stage?



UroskeKV #34 Posted 13 May 2014 - 11:02 AM

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Wasnt announced that europe will be played with t10, Mediteran with t8 and africa with t6? Wth are this landings then marked as 1-8 tier in Europe?

Cokrat #35 Posted 13 May 2014 - 05:47 PM

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View PostUroskeKV, on 13 May 2014 - 12:02 PM, said:

Wasnt announced that europe will be played with t10, Mediteran with t8 and africa with t6? Wth are this landings then marked as 1-8 tier in Europe?


That's the first global map you're talking about, event map will be up to Tier VIII.

Also see Decept1ons post up above.



MisterCro #36 Posted 14 May 2014 - 08:01 PM

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Does anyone know is there some script to see Fame points of cevery member in clan? In last campgain we have java script that work perfectly

knightM #37 Posted 15 May 2014 - 10:01 AM

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There is an error in the rules as well as the post quoted below:

 

http://worldoftanks....es-regulations/

 

1.7.  If a clan makes a move between the two maps during the World on Fire event or leaves a map completely, all Victory Points farmed as a result of their ownership of any provinces will be lost.

 

View PostDecept1on, on 29 April 2014 - 06:05 PM, said:

If you press the "Leave global map" button during the event, the clan will lose all VPs accumulated from farming (ownership of provinces), the points gathered from reaping enemy provinces will not be taken.

 

 

Proof:

http://worldoftanks....ot&pt_offset=25

(the page will change but it's 3rd from the end)

Yesterday

-2500 Losing province Atyrau 19:02
-1650 Losing province West Kazakhstan 18:02

 

 

Both provinces were owned by EFE for same ammount of time (+- 1 hour), they "lost" West Kazakhstan to TESLA in a "fight" at 1730. This made them loose 75% of VPs from that province, keep 25%.

Then they used "leave map" between 18 and 19. Lost all VPs from Atyrau, but kept 25% from the ownership of West Kazakhstan.

 

WP to EFE for good strategy in exploiting this bug. They are doing it again today and it will give them 3x75% of a daily income for free.

 

However, the hope that for once we will have a campaign with clear and unexploitable rules has vanished quite fast. The question is whether the right way to go is to correct the rules to reflect the reality, or change the way points are dealt out. One thing is if something can be interpreted in various ways but this is direct contradiction of written rules.


Edited by knightM, 15 May 2014 - 10:28 AM.


Nekrodamus #38 Posted 15 May 2014 - 10:55 AM

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This is exactly how I understood the rule when it was published.

 

"Farming" describes the time you own a province. It ends either by loosing the province (including leaving the map) or by the end of the event.

 

During "farming" the VP for this province are not yours but something like a counter.

 

At the time farming ends, "real" VP will be distributed and you recieve either 0% (left the map), 25% (lost the province in a fight) or 100% (kept it until the event is over).

 

Once "collected VP" are transfered/distributed into "real VP", they are save.

 

It might have been clever (easier to understand) to use two different terms though.



knightM #39 Posted 15 May 2014 - 11:09 AM

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Both deceptions post and the rules talk about "all VPs from farming" and "any province ownerhips".

When you are on map and loose a battle those 25% that you keep clearly come from farming/province ownership so you should loose them when you "leave" map.

 

Which is a clear contradiction to your line of thinking.

In simple terms one could assume that this rule should avoid gaining VPs both from "ownership" and "riots" so that you can only pick one strategy and not a hybrid between.


Edited by knightM, 15 May 2014 - 11:17 AM.


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View PostknightM, on 15 May 2014 - 12:09 PM, said:

Both deceptions post and the rules talk about "all VPs from farming" and "any province ownerhips".

When you are on map and loose a battle those 25% that you keep clearly come from farming/province ownership so you should loose them when you "leave" map.

 

Which is a clear contradiction to your line of thinking.

In simple terms one could assume that this rule should avoid gaining VPs both from "ownership" and "riots" so that you can only pick one strategy and not a hybrid between.

 

It's working exactly as it was described in rules. This is not first time when you (as clan) are confused how rules work, even it's written clearly.

 

There is no bug, there is no abuse, it is working as intended.






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