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Prometheus_ts #1 Posted 11 May 2014 - 11:52 AM

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Hi will it be buffed in 9.1?

 

I just sold the elc and got that tank , its stock but the first thing I noticed is that is extremely slow, and pretty armorless , I shot 4 times wih gold in the back of a kv IS and did 0 damage , then he turned , pointing the gun elsewhere and he just run toward me ramming and destroying my tank without even caring to aim at me ...

 

I am right to consider that tank a trash?



LittleSiema #2 Posted 11 May 2014 - 11:54 AM

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Amx12t

amx 13 75

=

Horse [edited]

 

No armor, no speed, crap gun, no acceleration

 

worst line


Edited by Petruzzi, 25 May 2014 - 11:41 AM.


7049 #3 Posted 11 May 2014 - 12:09 PM

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The US autoloaders like T69, T71, T57 are all better compared to the French autoloaders.

Commander_Chris #4 Posted 11 May 2014 - 12:11 PM

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View PostLittleSiema, on 11 May 2014 - 11:54 AM, said:

Amx12t

amx 13 75

=

Horse sh*it

 

No armor, no speed, crap gun, no acceleration

 

worst line


13 90 is a beast when played with a  brain



Desyatnik_Pansy #5 Posted 11 May 2014 - 12:14 PM

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View PostCommander_Chris, on 11 May 2014 - 12:11 PM, said:


13 90 is a beast when played with a  brain

 

Look who  you're talking to though. :trollface:



IhmisLoinen #6 Posted 11 May 2014 - 12:23 PM

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View PostPrometheus_ts, on 11 May 2014 - 01:52 PM, said:

Hi will it be buffed in 9.1?

 

I just sold the elc and got that tank , its stock but the first thing I noticed is that is extremely slow, and pretty armorless , I shot 4 times wih gold in the back of a kv IS and did 0 damage , then he turned , pointing the gun elsewhere and he just run toward me ramming and destroying my tank without even caring to aim at me ...

 

I am right to consider that tank a trash?


You are wrong.

It's you that is the problem.

You can't even aim.



Aiston #7 Posted 11 May 2014 - 12:32 PM

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Thought it was an acceptable light tank.

Ohaithar #8 Posted 11 May 2014 - 12:35 PM

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View PostAiston, on 11 May 2014 - 01:32 PM, said:

Thought it was an acceptable light tank.

 

Relatively acceptable though. In the 13 75, it's pretty good.

 

However, shouldn't one be more focused on passive scouting with the AMX lights most of the time considering their MM coefficient?



_Kruemelchen_ #9 Posted 11 May 2014 - 12:36 PM

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It's pretty good, only problem is the low ammo count. If you think it's bad, just play a couple of battles with the Chi-Ri.

Judqment8 #10 Posted 11 May 2014 - 12:48 PM

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AMX 12t is awesome. With the MM buff it will be a lot more deadly. Love the tank. This is from the last 5x event (from April):

 

AMX 75 however is just so much weaker than the T71 making it look bad while in reality it isn't.


Edited by Judqment8, 11 May 2014 - 12:49 PM.


mtm78 #11 Posted 11 May 2014 - 12:52 PM

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I disliked the whole line until I reached the 1390 so ye I would say it could use a lil buff...

Aiston #12 Posted 11 May 2014 - 12:54 PM

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View PostOhaithar, on 11 May 2014 - 12:35 PM, said:

 

Relatively acceptable though. In the 13 75, it's pretty good.

 

However, shouldn't one be more focused on passive scouting with the AMX lights most of the time considering their MM coefficient?

 

With the AMX's I just use it as a passive scout unless I'm amazingly only 2nd tier or even top tier (very VERY rare) than I just go round killing everything. Passive scouting and bring the auto-loader into play nearing the end of the game is deadly. The best use of an AMX in my opinion.



Folau #13 Posted 11 May 2014 - 12:58 PM

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My only complaint is the low ammo count really. I mean a light tank could always be smaller/quicker/deadlier, but honestly it's similar the 59 16 and I quite like both T6s. Pen is acceptable and if you are that way inclined APCR will give a welcome boost, it's reasonably quick, decent camo, not sure what else I can say about it.

 

Try not to get hit by tier 10s - play super cautious flanker and it's fine.



indipuk #14 Posted 11 May 2014 - 01:14 PM

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Light tank class is DEAD. Period. No buffs will help against kvs hiting your amx from 300m on the move. 

Edited by indipuk, 11 May 2014 - 03:51 PM.


Prometheus_ts #15 Posted 11 May 2014 - 06:26 PM

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I am always wondering why trolls when someone make a question do always neg rep .

keket870 #16 Posted 11 May 2014 - 06:30 PM

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Amx12t is a really good tank, no problem with it !

LUNSSI #17 Posted 11 May 2014 - 06:35 PM

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12t,1375,1390 all amazing tanks.  12t...I have 67% WR solo in randoms with it. 1k damage and 1k assist average per battle.

 

In fact im going to buy the darn thing back this week.


Edited by Arnold_Judas_Rimmer, 11 May 2014 - 06:36 PM.


Gentleman_l8astard #18 Posted 11 May 2014 - 06:38 PM

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I had good fun in the 12 t, peaked at a 60% win rate and I think around 55% over all in it with many 1000 + damage games plus 1000+ spotting.  And doing the same in the 13 75.  But then I tend to do well in tanks other say are garbage and fail in the OP tanks.

Do they need a buff?  Yes and no.  If scout MM stays the same post 9.1 then yes.  If scout MM goes to +/-2 then no.  Even so, if you play them less like a scout and more like a medium cardboard box with a decent 6 shot damage burst you can really hurt a distracted enemy heavy or TD.  The pure scout class is dead anyway.  In order for a 12 t or 13 75 driver to do well, you have for ignore the 'scout noob' teammates and attack when and where you can.  Aggressive distraction scouting and late game clean up is where these tanks shine.  If you play them as a scout, you will not live long enough to get the full potential out of these tanks and have an awful grind to the 13 90.  These tanks are all about guerilla warfare.  Hit them when they are not looking, run like hell when they are and attack from a new direction.

1ncompetenc3 #19 Posted 11 May 2014 - 06:40 PM

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I personally really don't like the AMX 12t, but I've seen others do quite well with it so my generally abysmal performance with it is more a problem with me than with the tank. That said, I can safely say that if you manage to bounce on the back of KV-1S with AP ammo, never mind APCR, you're doing something incredibly wrong.

Danger__UXB #20 Posted 11 May 2014 - 06:48 PM

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I hear bad things about the 12t all across the forum here but I actually liked it and did ok in it..

 

Its the lowest tier auto loader with 6 shots and when used as it should be used can be devastating to lone/low health tanks..

so map awareness is needed to be successful.

 

12t/1375/1390 all play the same just with different pen and opposition..

 

1st 3rd of the game spot/support....2nd3rd lone wolf/support....last third of the game lone wolf/support/kill arty/support))

 

These tanks are so versatile and you need to adapt as situations arise...Try track and kill...These tanks are made for it ))






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