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Lord_Of_Storms #21 Posted 11 May 2014 - 07:13 PM

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View PostCommander_Chris, on 11 May 2014 - 12:11 PM, said:


13 90 is a beast when played with a  brain

wut is brein?



Stew_Roids #22 Posted 11 May 2014 - 07:30 PM

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AMX 12 t - full APCR solo random 63% wr and 1500dpb.

Very nice tank to play with if you don't bother on spending a little bit credits to have fun.

 

The only problem is maximum number of shells you can carry :( just too low if your team is terribad.

 

 

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View PostCataMarin, on 11 May 2014 - 07:30 PM, said:

AMX 12 t - full APCR solo random 63% wr and 1500dpb.

Very nice tank to play with if you don't bother on spending a little bit credits to have fun.

 

The only problem is maximum number of shells you can carry :( just too low if your team is terribad.

 

 

http://wotreplays.co...tamarin-amx_12t

 

Surely you can carry 50/50... once the games half done its flanking time.. then again.. maybe ill try this APCR spam when I buy it back. then can I join FAME?:trollface:



Stew_Roids #24 Posted 12 May 2014 - 10:47 AM

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Flanking with 600hp light tank against 1400hp tier 7 tanks. Id rather use my camo value, spot enemy - fall back 15m behind bush and clip him out. In battle I posted in post up I've done it, unfortunately because of few misses I didn't have enough ammo for SU, so had to stay on his back for 4 minutes ...

 

+ don't forget this tank is getting tier X matchmaking. Try to pen is7/maus/e100 side with 170 pen, I wish you good luck.


Edited by CataMarin, 12 May 2014 - 10:47 AM.


Prometheus_ts #25 Posted 13 May 2014 - 10:17 AM

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After playing a bit more than 2 matches with this tank , I have mixed feelings , mostly I was influenced by friends telling me that the tank is utter trash , but actually is not that bad.

I mean is not great either , but I managed to actually hit more with this tank than with the Elc.

what I just miss is a bit of speed and steer , but for the rest I could penetrate most of what I wanted even if I had to use gold.



Stew_Roids #26 Posted 14 May 2014 - 12:14 AM

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View PostPrometheus_ts, on 13 May 2014 - 11:17 AM, said:

but I managed to actually hit more with this tank than with the Elc.

 

 

no wonder, ELC is piece of trash



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with 144 pen on its top gun I can pen the flank of almost any tank I meet (some KV-4/5 or E-75's might be problematic..but thats a small portion of the tanks in the game) burst is pretty good with ~135 dmg per shot, so I'm not complaining about the gun.

 

camo value and speed is also pretty good, I can scout out magic forests just fine (and that goes a major way in dislodging a few maps), and bino-boosted view helps out great in open maps so the platform is good as-well.

 

now it does have the typical light tank weakness that if the team keels over or doesn't use the information you provide that you are doomed...but that's the case most with light tanks.

 

my light-tank-fu isn't as good as some other folks though, so I'm not rocking every game with it.



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View PostPrometheus_ts, on 11 May 2014 - 12:52 PM, said:

Hi will it be buffed in 9.1?

 

I just sold the elc and got that tank , its stock but the first thing I noticed is that is extremely slow, and pretty armorless , I shot 4 times wih gold in the back of a kv IS and did 0 damage , then he turned , pointing the gun elsewhere and he just run toward me ramming and destroying my tank without even caring to aim at me ...

 

I am right to consider that tank a trash?


Nope you just fail horribly in playing it.

 

AMX 12t is easily the best tier 6 tank  in the game.

People just have to figure out how to play a light tank properly. (that does not include driving around like headless chicken and getting killed with 30 seconds.)



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View PostPrometheus_ts, on 11 May 2014 - 11:52 AM, said:

Hi will it be buffed in 9.1?

 

 

I am right to consider that tank a trash?

 

Buffed as it wont meet tierX again.

 

I would love to have one more clip of 6 shells though, i dont belive its 0,36 accuracy, shells fly all over the place, that it feels that his accuracy is like over 0,4...



troolie #30 Posted 16 May 2014 - 10:56 AM

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AMX 12t is bad. Sure, you can make it work sometimes, somehow but it's fundamentally bad because anything you could do with it can be done better with another tank.

 

- it's slow, too slow for a light tank

- it accelerates like a heavy

- it loses tons of speed when it turns

- it takes age to aim

- it's inaccurate when fully aimed and the low penetration doesn't help

- it spreads shoots all over the place when firing on the move

- it carries to few shells to make a difference

- it's camo/view range ratio is bad for the tiers it meets

- its elevation/depression are bad

- low HP pool for what it meets

- armor is super squishy and never get those random lucky bounces because every gun it meets overmatches

- rear seated turret doesn't help

 

AMX 13 75 fixes many of these flaws and is, overall, much more fun to play.



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Think they are pretty good tanks, all the line, and specially 12t. 13 90 is simply outstanding. But... in my opinion light tanks are the most difficult tank type to master, so player's hands count a lot.

Judqment8 #32 Posted 08 June 2014 - 01:01 PM

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View PostCataMarin, on 11 May 2014 - 09:30 PM, said:

The only problem is maximum number of shells you can carry :( just too low if your team is terribad.

 

Pretty much. I've had two recent awesome games one draw and one defeat because of the damn 30 ammo capacity.



iulian95rosu #33 Posted 10 August 2014 - 01:23 PM

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I like it...the gun and speed are acceptable. The only thing that I don't like so much is the mobility. But it is a good tank.

no_name_cro #34 Posted 14 August 2014 - 09:29 PM

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Is competitive tank in strongholds?

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View Postno_name_cro, on 14 August 2014 - 10:29 PM, said:

Is competitive tank in strongholds?

Lots of tier 6 LTs are used in stronghold battles. Even the VK2801H/MT-25 is pretty common there.

The AMX12t @ tier 6 is a pretty good tank.



tajj7 #36 Posted 07 September 2014 - 06:26 PM

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No sure on the the point of an autoloader that fires every 2.3 seconds for 135 damage? Not that much burst if you have to wait that long. 

 

The Comet fires like every 3.4 seconds for 140 and doesn't need to wait 19 seconds to do it more than 6 times. 

 

With the maps as they are I'm finding light tanks very hard, it's like being in a low tier medium every time with less health and having an option of 2/3 corridors. 

 

 

 

 


Edited by tajj7, 07 September 2014 - 06:33 PM.


no_name_cro #37 Posted 07 September 2014 - 06:40 PM

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Biggest problem: Getting that gunner to camo skill. Without camo skill on it - 12t dies fast. And 30 shells only.

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Not sure this thing is the best active scout, it's sluggish to get going and turn for a light and not been that confident in circling most enemies not only due to the sluggish speed but the combination of bad on the move aim and the depression/elevation means you can miss a lot of your clip.

 

Best success I have had is basically passive spotting and bush sniping from the flanks. 

 

To be fair though do like 900 damage with this thing and you get like 3000 WN8. 

 

 



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View Posttajj7, on 16 September 2014 - 09:59 AM, said:

Not sure this thing is the best active scout, it's sluggish to get going and turn for a light and not been that confident in circling most enemies not only due to the sluggish speed but the combination of bad on the move aim and the depression/elevation means you can miss a lot of your clip.

Best success I have had is basically passive spotting and bush sniping from the flanks. 

To be fair though do like 900 damage with this thing and you get like 3000 WN8. 

This thing will teach you how to play AMX series. It has potent gun in close combat or long range sniper anything between is either you get spotted and die or miss most of the shots.

And speed vise - None of the AMX 13 tanks isn't T71. They need to pick up some speed and turn like a whale for a LT. But mix of solid speed and solid auto-loading guns make them deadly. + they can spot.

BTW 900 damage is solid in T6 tank.



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I am a very bad player, but I have had a lot of success in this tank. If you choose the right positions in this  Tank, you can rack up insane damage scores for a T6, let alone light. Taking a friend in T7 arty helps, as they can back you up if your are getting limited or poor support from team. Just make sure you choose battles carefully, e.g. medium tanks are a very bad idea, but a lone T 34 heavy is just a great big pile of exp and damage if you duke him into firing early, due to slow reload time. TD's likewise. I think camo net and binos are a good idea in this tank, as passive scouting is a good idea in early game, as it is low risk. Third equipment slot is down to personal preference And money in my opinion. Overall, it is a fantastic tank if you play it right, and the fact that it gets so much bad press can be used to your advantage, as Heavys will often ignore you until too late... 

 

P.S This tank is in my humble opinion borderline OP in strongholds, as you can kill a distracted KV-1s in seconds, and any other T6 lights can be ripped to shreds with your autoloader.

 

P.P.S. Its also lots and lots of fun!


Edited by Gunbung, 20 September 2014 - 03:55 PM.





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