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New Historical Battle: The Siege of Tobruk


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Community #1 Posted 11 June 2014 - 03:05 PM

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Check out the new scenario coming to Historical Battles with Version 9.1!

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duvvel #2 Posted 11 June 2014 - 03:16 PM

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And yet again MM is screwed, makes unwinnable battles.

If UK gets 4 Matildas it's basically game over unless they do something terribly stupid. 5-6 Crusaders is also game over. Germans are outgunned and outspotted.

Unless you get lucky and balanced teams composition it's simply pointless.

 

Garbage.

 

EDIT:

Yeah just a quick look at current queue says it all:

UK: 50 Germany: 5


Edited by duvvel, 11 June 2014 - 03:19 PM.


Steffenximus #3 Posted 11 June 2014 - 03:26 PM

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Let me guess, Pz III and Pz IVD vs Matildas, Churchill and maybe even Sherman. Oh yes, fun fun fun ! What WG fails to remember is that germans had the 8.8cm FlaK guns which were murderous, killing any british tank at over 1 km. Of course, you won't get those.

 

PS : and what's with the crappy 5cm L60 gun from the realistic Pz III J ? That gun was able to kill pretty much anything at that time, in this game it's completely useless, has over 30mm less pen than it should.


Edited by Steffenximus, 11 June 2014 - 03:27 PM.


duvvel #4 Posted 11 June 2014 - 03:32 PM

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It's PzIII, PzIIiA, PzIVD, and StugIIIB vs Matildas, Crusaders, Cruiser III and Valentines.

Only thing that can realistically hurt Matilda is PzIII's gold ammo (5 pieces per tank).



JuanCudz #5 Posted 11 June 2014 - 03:59 PM

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(Desert) Rats! I had high hopes for a lower tier historical battle, yet WG continues to disappoint. 

JapLance #6 Posted 11 June 2014 - 04:08 PM

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View Postduvvel, on 11 June 2014 - 04:32 PM, said:

It's PzIII, PzIIiA, PzIVD, and StugIIIB vs Matildas, Crusaders, Cruiser III and Valentines.

Only thing that can realistically hurt Matilda is PzIII's gold ammo (5 pieces per tank).

 

75mm HE ammo of PzIV and StuG will hurt Matildas often, just not 100 points in one shot.

 

I played 3 times this afternoon, 1 with a Cruiser III (I expected an overpopulation of Matildas) and 2 with the PzIVD.

 

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My impression is that this battle is more balanced than the first ones we had.

 

 



duvvel #7 Posted 11 June 2014 - 04:13 PM

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@JapLace

What you showed is rare example of balanced battle (and still it's UK that won). Most don't look like this.

75MM HE ammo will do like 20 dmg every 3rd or 4th shot, rest will do 0. Takes a lot of time to kill Matilda this way, while he can kill you much quicker.

 

And I played like 20 so far, first few I also though it's balanced (won easily with germans). Then I started getting Matildas + Crusaders combos ....

 

It may be more balanced than Battle of the Bulge for example (where Germans won 1 in 20 battles maybe), but it's FAR from being balanced.


Edited by duvvel, 11 June 2014 - 04:15 PM.


PanzerSoldat #8 Posted 11 June 2014 - 06:03 PM

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wargaming and it's fake historic battle crap is FAIL

remove historic battle rubbish!



StyleZ_ #9 Posted 11 June 2014 - 06:18 PM

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Plz tell me one thing - if in WOT web page Player Profile section there is a medal for winning "Bryansk Fort" battle on both sides, but in the game there is no such battle, then how do I suppose to get that medal? :rolleyes:

pomaranc747 #10 Posted 11 June 2014 - 06:48 PM

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I only have matilda D: 

Kvasnikov #11 Posted 11 June 2014 - 07:37 PM

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I have enjoyed playing on both sides.

 

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Compared to first historical battles the tier spread is now more narrowed and it's much easier to get into battles :smile:



Funny_Farmer #12 Posted 11 June 2014 - 07:37 PM

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If they really want more players in historical battles then why use such new and rarely played vehicles as Pz IVD and StugIII B? Players should be able to join with the normal Pz IVH and Stug III, and then these could be changed to the other D/B variants ingame (in the same way as changing the modules).

 

 



duvvel #13 Posted 11 June 2014 - 07:59 PM

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Hmm, I played a lot HBs today and at one moment I suddenly stopped getting Matilda filled teams. Dunno if WG changed something or was it just luck. But anyway battles got more balanced for me.

It can be interesting and fun experience as long as team compositions are ok.

 

But queues are still the same, 50 UK vs 5-10 germans. And 80% of waiting tanks are mediums, so take a wild guess which one it mostly is :teethhappy:. Must take ages to get into this HB with Matilda. But if you pick germans you get in almost instantly.


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TeunStier #14 Posted 11 June 2014 - 09:23 PM

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WHYYYYY???? I love the idea of historical battles, but why on earth did you make it so incredibly unbalanced?

Benden #15 Posted 12 June 2014 - 01:45 AM

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Lol, they removed all older historical mission to add this single one with screwed matchmaking.

The competition is going to eat you alive wargaming...



Trados #16 Posted 12 June 2014 - 03:08 AM

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9.0 historical battles = nope

9.1 get hopes up..... = nope

 

hate to see matildas as it is when t4 even in random battles occasionally but this..... sry no thanks



_LEO_ #17 Posted 12 June 2014 - 09:16 AM

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Another fail balance. Playing with matilda is hilarious. Find nice spot near the base, angle a bit,  turn on the bino and you will obliterate anything that comes near you.

5 games with matilda: 4.8 kills per game, 963 average damage. The only way that german side can win is when british side has extremely stupid team.

 

1 day after the patch and we already get this: "Maximum time in queue for battle has expired. Select another vehicle or try again later." :facepalm:


Edited by _LEO_, 12 June 2014 - 09:34 AM.


VeryRisky #18 Posted 12 June 2014 - 10:30 AM

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I think it is far too early to say on the balance.   Remember when eyerone though the Tiger II was a win button for the Ardennes.

 

 

Give it a while to see tactics deveop on both sides.   It still looks like randoms atm.

 

And fwiw in my games last night the Germans won most of the time.



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Again another biased WG failure ...

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View Postdlcatalin, on 12 June 2014 - 10:49 AM, said:

Again another biased WG failure ...

 

And we can't even work out which side is better yet!






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