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Search_Warrant #1 Posted 02 July 2014 - 01:00 AM

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T71 outclasses this thing by miles its not even fair. T71 has better pen, damage better mobility all around and feels smaller. why is AMX1375 so horrible compared to T71? its a sick joke how bad this power creep is. ether you give amx1375 more damage per shell or higher pen than T71. at the moment its got nothing.

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Cruiser_Boy #2 Posted 04 July 2014 - 10:51 PM

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Well to be fair it's got something that the T71 doesn't have: good looks. Seriously, T71 looks horrible.

 

I am still grinding the AMX 12t.

Honestly I'm not very worried about the 13 75, if it's even marginally better than the 12t it means I'll be doing well in it.

 

That's not to say that you're wrong in asking for a buff. However I think it's more likely that the T71 will be nerfed than the '75 buffed. I don't know.

 



Search_Warrant #3 Posted 05 July 2014 - 01:10 AM

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Indeed its why i actually..secretly..grinded the french LT because they looked awesome. little did i know they are an old relic long forgotten by the power creep.

 

Ever played a LT and seen a KV-1S storm past you with twice the acceleration of you and wondred why u bothered playing a LT? i have. it feels pretty stupid.


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View PostCruiser_Boy, on 04 July 2014 - 10:51 PM, said:

Well to be fair it's got something that the T71 doesn't have: good looks. Seriously, T71 looks horrible.

 

 

1375 got better camouflage values, better premium ammo. In T71 vs 1375 engagement the 1375 wins 9/10 times due to faster reload and better accuracy. Biggest issue with 1375 is only having 36 shells.

 


Edited by daddlar, 05 July 2014 - 10:42 AM.


ollonborre #5 Posted 05 July 2014 - 10:48 AM

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Also the 13 75 leads to the 13 90. Massice pro to tge 13 75.

Search_Warrant #6 Posted 05 July 2014 - 09:32 PM

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View Postdaddlar, on 05 July 2014 - 11:40 AM, said:

1375 got better camouflage values, better premium ammo. In T71 vs 1375 engagement the 1375 wins 9/10 times due to faster reload and better accuracy. Biggest issue with 1375 is only having 36 shells.

 


What? in my T71 i never lost a single match Vs a 13 75. T71 hits harder then amx1375 so u spouting utter BS right there.


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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 05 July 2014 - 09:32 PM, said:


What? in my T71 i never lost a single match Vs a 13 75. T71 hits harder then amx1375 so u spouting utter BS right there.

It's all BS of course. If we only consider RNG and a perfect equal fight the T71 has a 50% chance of winning at best. When I played 1375 I had several engagements against lone loaded full-HP T71s and won every single time. Key was to make the T71 miss 1 shell and the knifefight was over for T71.

 

I have the same bias as you, only mine is towards the 1375. I haven't played T71 yet. :smile:



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I also never had any real issues with T71 duels. Your 4 second faster reload and slightly more HP would more often than not end with the T71 being a smoking wreck.

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View Postdaddlar, on 05 July 2014 - 11:53 PM, said:

It's all BS of course. If we only consider RNG and a perfect equal fight the T71 has a 50% chance of winning at best. When I played 1375 I had several engagements against lone loaded full-HP T71s and won every single time. Key was to make the T71 miss 1 shell and the knifefight was over for T71.

 

I have the same bias as you, only mine is towards the 1375. I haven't played T71 yet. :smile:

Indeed its better but that does not mean that it can't do its job.When i see those kinds of posts about scouts and their dmg,buff the gun bla bla,i just cba to post.OP cares about a better gun on a SCOUT tank,go figure....



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As said before:

T71: leads to the medicore T69 in which you have to spam gold ammo nonstop

AMX1375: leads to the mighty 1390 one of the best T8 tanks

 

Honestly AMX12t, AMX1375 and Lorraine40t is only worth playing to unlock the 1390 and the Batchat, all three are just filling up the empty slots in that tech tree.



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View Postdaddlar, on 05 July 2014 - 10:40 AM, said:

1375 got better camouflage values, better premium ammo. In T71 vs 1375 engagement the 1375 wins 9/10 times due to faster reload and better accuracy. Biggest issue with 1375 is only having 36 shells.

 

 

Strange theory with how 13 75 can't hit crapon the move...

 

View Postkfa, on 06 July 2014 - 12:01 AM, said:

As said before:

T71: leads to the medicore T69 in which you have to spam gold ammo nonstop

AMX1375: leads to the mighty 1390 one of the best T8 tanks

 

Honestly AMX12t, AMX1375 and Lorraine40t is only worth playing to unlock the 1390 and the Batchat, all three are just filling up the empty slots in that tech tree.

 

Don't bring Lorr into this, it is a very nice tank, basically 50 100 with worse MM for way way better stats all around.



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View PostEokokok, on 06 July 2014 - 01:49 AM, said:

View PostEokokok, on 06 July 2014 - 01:49 AM, said:

 

Don't bring Lorr into this, it is a very nice tank, basically 50 100 with worse MM for way way better stats all around.

 

 

 

You havent even played the Lorraine so excuse me if i dont care about your opinion about it.

Play it and you will see why people say it is the worst Tier9 tank in the game (myself included).



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View PostSyllom, on 06 July 2014 - 12:39 AM, said:

Indeed its better but that does not mean that it can't do its job.When i see those kinds of posts about scouts and their dmg,buff the gun bla bla,i just cba to post.OP cares about a better gun on a SCOUT tank,go figure....


Maybe you only see what you want then, i obviously posted more than just "give bigger gun now". open ur eyes. i posted the mobility as a whole is far worse than T71 too.



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far worse?define far worse?put them in a drag race,if the t71 is ahead by 10 meters(i assume it would be like this) then u cant call it far worse,if its 50 then yes but thats not going to happen.

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your words:T71 has better pen, damage better mobility all around and feels smaller. why is AMX1375 so horrible compared to T71? its a sick joke how bad this power creep is. ether you give amx1375 more damage per shell or higher pen than  T71. at the moment its got nothing.

 

now tell me by those words what I should expect to understand


Edited by Syllom, 07 July 2014 - 12:20 AM.


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Im saying give it something over the T71. you cant give T71 everything better than it and amx1375 gets nothing. that my friend is NOT HOW BALANCE WORKS.

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View Postdaddlar, on 05 July 2014 - 11:40 AM, said:

1375 got better camouflage values, better premium ammo. In T71 vs 1375 engagement the 1375 wins 9/10 times due to faster reload and better accuracy. Biggest issue with 1375 is only having 36 shells.

 

 

That's interesting, because I have the opposite feelings - 13 75: 0 accuracy on the move (even worse with 13 90 btw), slower, less agile, a lot worse pen + a tad worse gun depression.

T71 actually can hit something without having to stop, gun penetrates most of targets (german tier X hevies can be problematic, but that's it really), stupidly bad accuracy is sometimes a problem, but you can actually snipe very well (i.e.: high velocity of shells).

 

The only real edge 13 75 has is better camo....



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I jusat bought the 13 75 and so far it's not preforming as I expected, as you guys have said, the T71 is better att just about everything, pen, speed, agility, shooting on the move, gun depression etc. It needs a slight damage/pen buff and better accuracy on the move. In the end, I actually started to kinda like the 12t and had some really good results in it, I'm nowhere near this with the 13 75. Crit, misses and bounces is the name of the game so far and my stats have taken a [edited]massive dive downwards thanks to driving tthis. 

 

With the new soviet lights that are comming, the 13 75 is going to be even worse.

 

3 words, buff buff and buff!



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Indeed! i dont get how they can get away with such a horrible power creep.  why make 1 tank much better at everything in the same tier than another? thats not balanced and its not fair. i unlocked AMX 13 90 just yesterday and still wondering why top gun on it has only 170 pen at tier 8...the damage is amazing in 1 clip ill admit but it should have been on the amx 13 75 (maybe with a slight damage nerf? 200 per shell same 144pen? minor acceleration buff too and it would be balanced.

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ok.let us wait your next post for the lorraine,i see you are progressing,and then the bc,god knows what wrong u will find on bc....

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BC? ill find myself laughing hystericly from clipping everyone faces in.




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