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Abusemtex #41 Posted 06 November 2014 - 08:51 AM

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View PostAgent303, on 05 November 2014 - 01:05 PM, said:

 

yes you can mount vstabs i will show you

and i agree you should get the tracks but you do not need them instanly

https://onedrive.liv...thint=photo,jpg

 

What you have mounted here is enhanced gun laying drive - not vstabs...



Syllom #42 Posted 06 November 2014 - 01:24 PM

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View PostAbusemtex, on 06 November 2014 - 08:51 AM, said:

 

What you have mounted here is enhanced gun laying drive - not vstabs...

 

lol!missread that as well,saw a word from the mouseover icon vert smth byt didnt notice the icon itself:D

tajj7 #43 Posted 08 November 2014 - 06:57 PM

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View Postboukk, on 05 November 2014 - 10:13 PM, said:

13 75 was one of the first line i played, and well objectively, it s completely awful, atleast compared to T71 and buldog.

Buff in pen and alpha would help it, but T71 would just still be better, smaller , more nimble...

 

This is the issue, the T71 and the Bulldog crap all over it, both faster, both more agile, both have better gun handling, both have better elevation and depression and  both have better guns and the T71's camo is only slight worse.

 

The 1375 needs a buff.

 



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View Posttajj7, on 08 November 2014 - 05:57 PM, said:

 

This is the issue, the T71 and the Bulldog crap all over it, both faster, both more agile, both have better gun handling, both have better elevation and depression and  both have better guns and the T71's camo is only slight worse.

 

The 1375 needs a buff.

 

 

i think T71 and bulldog should be nerfed to 13 75 standards to be honest. ether that or buff 1375.

thaJNKRS #45 Posted 26 November 2014 - 04:49 PM

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 23 November 2014 - 10:33 AM, said:

 

i think T71 and bulldog should be nerfed to 13 75 standards to be honest. ether that or buff 1375.

 

Why would you want them to get nerfed honestly? They've finally brought us some competitive light tanks

 

Currently im grinding the 13 75 and I can't understand WG haven't buffed it yet.

 

Some stats I got in them

 

  T71 Bulldog 13 75
Games 288 67 90
Winrate 56 61 43
Damage/game 1208 1246 885

 

I haven't got 6th on the 13 75 yet so I guess that causes me to make more mistakes in the tank, but the difference is still enormous taking that into account.

 

Im not the only one with lower stats in the 13 75. Current wn8 values based on averages also show that the 13 75 is the worst T7 light.

The Bulldog values are probably even higher, but their based on the T71 values for now, because: new tank, no averages.

 

AMX 13 75 france Light Tanks 7 0.62 587.00 2.10 0.61 52.41
Aufklärungspanzer Panther germany Light Tanks 7 0.60 670.70 2.12 0.67 52.21
LTTB ussr Light Tanks 7 0.60 670.70 2.12 0.67 52.21
M41 Walker Bulldog usa Light Tanks 7 0.69 729.92 2.63 0.67 52.97
T71 usa Light Tanks 7 0.69 729.92 2.63 0.67 52.97
Type 62 china Light Tanks 7 0.59 599.17 2.38 0.67 50.75
WZ-131 china Light Tanks 7 0.61 669.26 2.57 0.63 52.46

Conclusion: Buff thiz tenk! :great:



KillSlim #46 Posted 05 December 2014 - 07:06 AM

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 23 November 2014 - 09:33 AM, said:

 

i think T71 and bulldog should be nerfed to 13 75 standards to be honest. ether that or buff 1375.

 

Buffing the 13 75 would be less work and make sense to buff it to the performance of other T7 lights. 

FIGOC4 #47 Posted 27 December 2014 - 09:28 PM

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In my view, the 13 75 needs a better gun with more pen to fight against tier IX and X. If they don´t do that, maybe they should change its mm, and to go it down to tier IX as maximum tier

Janwing #48 Posted 29 December 2014 - 02:11 PM

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Mayby this will help.

But i do not think wargaming will consider making this 105 mm gun available for the AMX 13-75.

But it worked for the dutch army :)

 



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@janwing that is a nice idea but it would requier chance for the  entire branch because the 13-90 is practicly the same tank but with a 90 mm so my idea would be to give the 90 mm to the 13-75 and the 105 mm to the 13-90

 

PS: ik wist niet dat deze tanks ook in het nederlandse leger gediend hadden :D

 



Chester_Chuckles #50 Posted 03 January 2015 - 02:51 PM

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it looks great, but is, IMHO, tracked excrement.

a tier 6 gun vs. tier 10 heavies

can be outrun by T9 mediums so it can't get away,

outclassed in every way by newer tanks. for example

 

from http://www.vbaddict.net/

Winrate:

LTTB         51.84 %
Walker Bulldog    51.78 %

(4th & 5th highest winrates of ALL T7 tanks, of any kind)

40th place/44 - which is 4th from bottom of ALL T7 tanks)
AMX 13 75    47.52 %

 

Also on a personal level:

 

me in the amx 12t: 282 games    54.26% winrate, all random, no gold ammo

me in the 13 75: 148 games    41.89% winrate

 

as soon as i can it's getting sold, i hope the 13 90 is worth this misery

actually don't buff it's pen, just delete it completely

 

 

 


Edited by Chester_Chuckles, 03 January 2015 - 02:51 PM.


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AMX 13 75 is not THAT bad. I unlocked the AMX 13 90 just a few days ago, and the grind to that was not horrible. T71 is better at almost everything, but that doesn't make the 13 75 a bad tank. The speed and agility of the tank could be better, but it still moves faster than the Aufkl.Panther. The gun is adequate as a tier 7 light tank gun. Just find a good sniping spot, wait for a good moment and flank the slow enemy tank doing about 800 damage to it. It could sure use a buff, but doesn't need one.

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AMX 13 75 is pretty bad, you can't carry tier 9/10 matches in this thing. Acceleration and aim are too slow, turns like a boat as well. 56 games so far, 41% WR. T71 is by far superior (although I have also a better crew in it).

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I could live with that terribad gun if the tank itself would be more manuverable and faster.

Chester_Chuckles #54 Posted 05 January 2015 - 06:37 PM

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View PostVille67, on 03 January 2015 - 07:58 PM, said:

AMX 13 75 is not THAT bad. I unlocked the AMX 13 90 just a few days ago, and the grind to that was not horrible. T71 is better at almost everything, but that doesn't make the 13 75 a bad tank. The speed and agility of the tank could be better, but it still moves faster than the Aufkl.Panther. The gun is adequate as a tier 7 light tank gun. Just find a good sniping spot, wait for a good moment and flank the slow enemy tank doing about 800 damage to it. It could sure use a buff, but doesn't need one.

 

Welllll,

OK maybe not quite that bad, just very outclassed.

I hit the usual problems with MM: great first games, followed by a winrate crash into the abyss, & this is a tank that I (well people on my skill level) cannot carry with,

... fortunately I've just hit 150 games, and the MM is as usual, starting to take it's foot off my neck.

 

 If anyone says you can just flank a distracted tank and kill them, you can't 80% of the time

 

The problem is that if the distracted tank has ANY backup, as soon as you appear, you will be killed, because you don't have the acceleration to get away.

even some T9 HEAVIES can keep up with you. I'd trade 20kph of theoretical* top speed for +20% acceleration.

 

Sniping as you say, is the only way to go.

 

 

*May be achievable if you strapped ice-skates to the bottom of it, and fired it into a black hole.

 


Edited by Chester_Chuckles, 05 January 2015 - 06:38 PM.


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I got about 5K experience left on the 12t to get this, and I'm not expecting much. Like mentioned above, tier 6 guns Vs tier 10 heavies is just pure fail. But I do love my AMX 12t, so I hope I won't hate the 13 75 that much.

Chester_Chuckles #56 Posted 17 January 2015 - 05:18 PM

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It's sold.

The SECOND I had enough XP to dump this wretched piece of garbage, it's gone.

Good.

 

The only reason it exists is to force people to pay for gold ammo or premium to escape the hateful misery of having to drive it.

 

View PostAnkot, on 17 January 2015 - 11:46 AM, said:

I got about 5K experience left on the 12t to get this, and I'm not expecting much. Like mentioned above, tier 6 guns Vs tier 10 heavies is just pure fail. But I do love my AMX 12t, so I hope I won't hate the 13 75 that much.

 

You poor bastard.

 

PS. expect utterly crap matchmaking for the first 200 games


Edited by Chester_Chuckles, 17 January 2015 - 05:43 PM.


Marburg_u #57 Posted 09 February 2015 - 10:41 PM

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I haven't touched this game in 1 month. But recently i discovered that lights are getting a general buff........ apart from the 13 75. I cannot imagine where WG staff responsible for game balancing has been living up to this day. How can you buff the t71 and leave untouched the 13 75? In what universe?!

 

you know what is funny? That i begun my 13 75 grind shorty after the t71 was released, and i always thought i would have regretted this decision, because surely, within a few time the 13 75 would have been buffed..... but now, months after i finished my grind, I'M GLAD i'm done with the 13 75, because after the new American, Soviet and German lights, AND THEIR UPCOMING BUFF, the 13 75 is about to became an even worse tank.

 

I would have never conceived this possibility, not even in my most weird nightmares. 

 

And i'm bloody serious. If you say you are engaged in a light tanks re balance, and you don't touch the 13 75, THEN YOU ARE A FREAKING JOKE. WG, you are a joke.


Edited by Marburg_u, 09 February 2015 - 10:42 PM.


Eila_Juutilainen #58 Posted 09 February 2015 - 11:29 PM

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Patch 9.7 will bring us more French tanks, including a tier 9 and 10 medium which branch off the... you guessed it, the light tank line. There is a good chance that AMX 13 75 will get revewed and (hopefully) buffed in that patch.

Meisto7 #59 Posted 12 February 2015 - 02:19 PM

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why the f wg didnt buff amx 13 75 or why they balance tanks, 0 logic

Finkburn #60 Posted 13 February 2015 - 01:00 PM

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 - it is not sure, that AMX-13/75 will be buffed in 9.7, the best ETA is “later”

 

Goodbye Buff! Obviously because Batchat is the most played clanwars tank and WG needs more money.

Guess ill have to grind a million and load some gold...






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