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kojd #1 Posted 20 July 2014 - 10:15 PM

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why is tank movement so crap in wot? i tested war thunder and it is really more realistic and also funny.

 

in wot, tanks are turning like a car. and impossible to make sharp manuveurs while moving. but in real as well as War thunder, you can make amazing manuveurs because you can stop one of tracks suddenly...


Edited by kojd, 20 July 2014 - 10:15 PM.


Grand_Moff_Tano #2 Posted 20 July 2014 - 10:17 PM

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Because WoT has limitations with the game engine which disallow a tank to drift as they do in War Thunder.

M1tchy #3 Posted 20 July 2014 - 10:41 PM

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I had my 59-16 drifting. Was fun til I got shot :(

Judqment8 #4 Posted 20 July 2014 - 10:53 PM

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Then please go back to War Thunder if it's so good. I really disliked how the tanks just keep drifting and drifting in WT. If it's realistic then so what I don't like it. I'm glad WoT is more arcade on this matter.

 

Not to mention how damn static to battles in War Thunder are. Or how boring the "always-the-same" domination gets after a while. It's just so much duller than WoT. Not to mention that your effort means even less in WT. It's all about camping or just swarming the cap zones and winning the battle was with just sitting in caps and waiting for enemy to bleed tickets.

 

War Thunder is great as a plane game, but their tank section is just bad IMO.



Zerteiler #5 Posted 20 July 2014 - 11:00 PM

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Full drift at every turn, while driving a t1 tank at 15-20 km\h offroad........ Yes, WT is so realistic:sceptic:

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kojd #6 Posted 20 July 2014 - 11:09 PM

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View PostJudqment8, on 20 July 2014 - 11:53 PM, said:

Then please go back to War Thunder if it's so good. I really disliked how the tanks just keep drifting and drifting in WT. If it's realistic then so what I don't like it. I'm glad WoT is more arcade on this matter.

 

Not to mention how damn static to battles in War Thunder are. Or how boring the "always-the-same" domination gets after a while. It's just so much duller than WoT. Not to mention that your effort means even less in WT. It's all about camping or just swarming the cap zones and winning the battle was with just sitting in caps and waiting for enemy to bleed tickets.

 

War Thunder is great as a plane game, but their tank section is just bad IMO.

 

stop that [edited]"go if you like it" crap pls.

 

tanks do not have turning wheels. that means if you want to turn right, you stop right track and accelerate left track. so you can do drift while you are moving. but we can't do it in wot. it is not a feature by WT. 



Dragos_CS #7 Posted 20 July 2014 - 11:25 PM

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View Postkojd, on 21 July 2014 - 12:09 AM, said:

 

stop that [edited]"go if you like it" crap pls.

 

tanks do not have turning wheels. that means if you want to turn right, you stop right track and accelerate left track. so you can do drift while you are moving. but we can't do it in wot. it is not a feature by WT. 

Why should we be able to do that? So the zombies the teams are made of right now have one more thing to do other than shooting tanks? Why drift? Want drift? Play NFS!



anfieldminion #8 Posted 20 July 2014 - 11:28 PM

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Then go play your stupid WarThunder and leave us alone.

Need For Speed and Gran Turismo also has different driving mechanics, but I doubt the forums of those 2 games have fans of opposing game wanting it changed.



Tank_n_Spank #9 Posted 20 July 2014 - 11:30 PM

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We don't want realistic tank movement in WoT. 

 

Realism is overrated.



BrettM #10 Posted 21 July 2014 - 12:37 AM

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WoT is a game that acts like a game. WT is a game trying to pretend to be a simulation.

 



ABCWarrrior #11 Posted 21 July 2014 - 12:52 AM

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As others said. It's an arcade style game, not real life or a simulator. Think of it like a driving game. Some prefer realistic f1 sims, others prefer an arcade racer, others something in between. Whichever you find more fun play then that.

Ohaithar #12 Posted 21 July 2014 - 12:54 AM

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The whole dynamism of the movement in comparison to WT provides a potentially more twitchy game than WT. While aiming at some schmuck's ammo is fun in WT GF, but the movement's not the reason why WT GF is that superior. For that reason you may as well criticize Quake 3 for very significant movement flaws (strafe jumping) and praise OFP for not having said movement flaws.

 

Also, I don't get the hype about WT. It's like almost every game I've played: bland with sprinkles.



Jigabachi #13 Posted 21 July 2014 - 01:00 AM

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Wait... what? :amazed:

Tanks in WT drive like cars. When I tested it, you were even able to do a 180°-drift. Which is everything BUT realistic.

And like people already said: WoT is an arcady action game. I really wonder how people still fail to understand that.


Edited by Jigabachi, 21 July 2014 - 01:11 AM.


Yakito #14 Posted 21 July 2014 - 01:00 AM

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So many fanboys defending this game no matter what. It's sad.
This game could use a bit more driving realism. It doesn't have to be spot on or exactly like in real life to the point when it's not fun, but hell... it could still be a lot better. Why do people refuse to improve things for the better?
"Bohoo, my precious game cannot be touched by improvements, I am scared that it may change and become too mainstream or whatever".
Worst kind of fanboyism - When you are so protective of your game that you will dismiss any fault and problem in the game and will protect it from any upgrades or constructive feedback/suggestions/criticism.

Exactly the kind of thing that made games like ToR get destroyed.

olukej #15 Posted 21 July 2014 - 01:02 AM

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View PostYakito, on 21 July 2014 - 02:00 AM, said:

This game could use a bit more driving realism. 

 

Why? Please explain how the game would benefit from more driving realism.



mad0mat #16 Posted 21 July 2014 - 01:07 AM

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View PostYakito, on 21 July 2014 - 02:00 AM, said:

So many fanboys defending this game no matter what. It's sad.
This game could use a bit more driving realism. It doesn't have to be spot on or exactly like in real life to the point when it's not fun, but hell... it could still be a lot better. Why do people refuse to improve things for the better?
"Bohoo, my precious game cannot be touched by improvements, I am scared that it may change and become too mainstream or whatever".
Worst kind of fanboyism - When you are so protective of your game that you will dismiss any fault and problem in the game and will protect it from any upgrades or constructive feedback/suggestions/criticism.

Exactly the kind of thing that made games like ToR get destroyed.


Defending? What is here to defend? That WoT is clearly an arcade game and WT is trying hard to be a simulator being in fact boring unpolished try hard game? Show me drifting tank that drift at 20 km/h. Just show me how this is realistic because to drift in tank you need speed and low friction terrain not some muddy grassland. So freaking realistic - simulator with weightless tanks... Gj.


Edited by mad0mat, 21 July 2014 - 01:08 AM.


Laatikkomafia #17 Posted 21 July 2014 - 01:08 AM

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View PostWulfgarDK, on 21 July 2014 - 01:28 AM, said:

Then go play your stupid WarThunder and leave us alone.

Need For Speed and Gran Turismo also has different driving mechanics, but I doubt the forums of those 2 games have fans of opposing game wanting it changed.

 

Yes, perhaps it is a good idea to leave weekend warriors alone.

Both games have good and bad things in them. But WT, unlike WoT, doesn't punish individual player for team failing, prizes are given purely for the deeds on the battlefield. And SB is where WT really shines compared to WoT.

mad0mat, here you go:


Here is a modern MBT. WW2 tanks weren't modern MBTs. The tracks had poor traction sideways.

And I got to love how people bash WT:GF, that is still in its early development. Some just keep on forgetting how early WoT "physics" were floating tanks that got stuck a lot, two nations and point n' click arties. GG.


Edited by Laatikkomafia, 21 July 2014 - 01:16 AM.


Jigabachi #18 Posted 21 July 2014 - 01:20 AM

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View PostYakito, on 21 July 2014 - 02:00 AM, said:

So many fanboys defending this game no matter what. It's sad.

Wait... please show me who is defending WoT here.

All we did was telling the OP that he is just utterly wrong and pretty much clueless. Nobody said that the WoT tank movement is super awesome - it isn't. And there is plenty of room for improvements indeed.

But the WoT tank movement isn't meant to be realistic and the WT tank movement simply isn't realistic.

 

@ video above: Exactly - that is a modern tank at high speed on SOLID terrain. In WT you are able to do the same with a slow WW2 tank on SOFT terrain.


Edited by Jigabachi, 21 July 2014 - 01:21 AM.


mad0mat #19 Posted 21 July 2014 - 01:20 AM

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And that showed me what? That tanks can drift at high speed on low friction ground ( concrete to be precise in this case)? Still not proving what is happening in WT as realistic ( common - I drifted in my T-26 at 20ish km/h on a freaking grass field...). I know that tanks can drift, but not on low speed.

Ohaithar #20 Posted 21 July 2014 - 01:28 AM

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View Postmad0mat, on 21 July 2014 - 02:20 AM, said:

And that showed me what? That tanks can drift at high speed on low friction ground ( concrete to be precise in this case)? Still not proving what is happening in WT as realistic ( common - I drifted in my T-26 at 20ish km/h on a freaking grass field...). I know that tanks can drift, but not on low speed.

 

Gaijin should make a Fast and the Furious game.


Edited by Ohaithar, 21 July 2014 - 01:28 AM.





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