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2Tee2 #1 Posted 22 July 2014 - 04:56 AM

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so, is the visible Universe "locally" flat, how do you think?

 

https://www.youtube....RjW6Ht7E#t=2653

 

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2Tee2 #2 Posted 22 July 2014 - 04:59 AM

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uh, sorry, I meant is it just locally flat?

saffer001 #3 Posted 22 July 2014 - 06:14 AM

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Oh look, he posted a video of cosmology and physics in the World of Tanks forum just like that, look how random he is!

MeetriX #4 Posted 22 July 2014 - 06:21 AM

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Yes. Yes it is. So where is my Nobel price?

1 million is not that much, but I can bought a few real gold ammo.



2Tee2 #5 Posted 22 July 2014 - 06:28 AM

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im listening :girl:

Petruzzi #6 Posted 22 July 2014 - 10:42 AM

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Moved to Off topic.

2Tee2 #7 Posted 25 July 2014 - 09:55 AM

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double move? :deer:

kaasunaamio #8 Posted 26 July 2014 - 04:38 PM

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I thinks that the mass of the visible universe is enough to force it flat. :amazed:

2Tee2 #9 Posted 27 July 2014 - 11:49 AM

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makes sense, though they say most of teh mass aint visible? :amazed:

2Tee2 #10 Posted 27 July 2014 - 11:57 AM

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sorry, lets pretend im not a drunk=

 

they do measure teh Universe and say its flat= no doubts here

 

im wondering if its only the visible/local Universe that is flat?



Ulfhedinn_ #11 Posted 27 July 2014 - 12:25 PM

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It's not flat, it only looks flat because it's infinite!

 

I saw a clever TV documentary where they explained. On that big map they have of the entire Universe (the one just after the big bang) they took a stretch of matter. They made a very long narrow triangle, with each end of the stretch of matter forming 2 of the triangle points, with Earth being the 3rd point. They then measured the angles within the corners of the triangle. If they added up to more than 180 degrees, it meant the back line (between the 2 ends of the stretch of matter) was curved. But the triangle angles added up to exactly 180 degrees, meaning the edge of the Universe is flat / straight, or in other words, there is no edge (that we can conceive of) to the Universe as it's infinite. And it's only able to manifest infinity, because although space has an edge / end it's constantly expanding / inflating to occupy non-existence faster than the speed of light. So the visible Universe is definitely flat, the full Universe must be curved, but the curve is and always will be far beyond anything we could see. That is until the currently expanding Universe starts to contract, when mega black hole gravity will drag everything back to a point of singularity again, at which point there will be no relativity because everything is all in one tiny place all at the same time and so everything is just one thing, at which point there'll be another big bang again, and so on. Apparently.

 

You know 2Tee2, thinking about certain things is not good for you. The problem with expanding your mind is that it's like a finite piece of fabric, the more you stretch it at the edges the more holes appear in the middle normal bit where you actually exist & function.



2Tee2 #12 Posted 27 July 2014 - 12:29 PM

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sure, I saw this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij5RjW6Ht7E#t=2653

 

tats why im asking

 

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ah, dint notice teh cardinality remark :girl:


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View Post2Tee2, on 27 July 2014 - 12:57 PM, said:

sorry, lets pretend im not a drunk=

 

they do measure teh Universe and say its flat= no doubts here

 

im wondering if its only the visible/local Universe that is flat?


Visible universe is the only thing we can observe, but that's not all. It's the only thing that has affects on us.

Information has a limit and it's a c.



2Tee2 #14 Posted 27 July 2014 - 01:08 PM

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View PostMeetriX, on 27 July 2014 - 01:53 PM, said:


Visible universe is the only thing we can observe, but that's not all. It's the only thing that has affects on us.

Information has a limit and it's a c.

 

since we seem to be reversin, how do you feel bout teh 5th postulate?



Ulfhedinn_ #15 Posted 27 July 2014 - 01:27 PM

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^ I couldn't hope to begin to understand what most of this thread means :-)

 

But I don't believe in science very much, I suspect it's all a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy, like Shrodinger's cat. I reckon the scientists will end up finding their maths say the Universe is precisely what they expect it to be and it's just a shame they have such mundane expectations.



2Tee2 #16 Posted 27 July 2014 - 01:35 PM

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math aint science ;)

soolerman #17 Posted 27 July 2014 - 01:52 PM

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OMG why is this in a wot forum? Also this is a well known red herring that NASA dropped in to get more funding some years back. It goes in the same pile of NASA cr*p as them calming they had found bacteria fossils in a meteorite from Mars. Just as the Mars funding looked to be getting cut. Or them suddenly uping the risk off the planet getting hit by some big rock. Just as the star wars funding ended.



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View Postsoolerman, on 27 July 2014 - 02:52 PM, said:

OMG why is this in a wot forum? Also this is a well known red herring that NASA dropped in to get more funding some years back. It goes in the same pile of NASA cr*p as them calming they had found bacteria fossils in a meteorite from Mars. Just as the Mars funding looked to be getting cut. Or them suddenly uping the risk off the planet getting hit by some big rock. Just as the star wars funding ended.

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=jA9D1qcxq9M

 

 



2Tee2 #19 Posted 27 July 2014 - 02:07 PM

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wrong tune ...again

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=iQC2_NJj2iA



Ulfhedinn_ #20 Posted 27 July 2014 - 02:23 PM

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lol, a load of +1's for the strange fishing blues. Maybe an accidental but an accurate comment on NASA funding policy?

 

 






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