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Community #1 Posted 02 August 2014 - 11:29 AM

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The new episode of Inside the Tanks is up! This time, Richard takes a look inside the legendary Jagdpanther!

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estoniantoop #2 Posted 02 August 2014 - 12:05 PM

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This is amazing! I didn't know it is SO big and the engine sound is impressive. I would definitely want to go inside of Jagdpanter.

Salsify #3 Posted 02 August 2014 - 01:13 PM

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Not a criticism of the video or presenter, I enjoy watching these but at  around 4:25 there is mention of sloped armour increasing the effective thickness for "no extra weight" which is something I've often seen mentioned elsewhere but I wonder whether it's actually true.  

 

Maybe I'm just being pedantic or missing something but at an angle of 35 degrees the front plate would have to be made almost twice the height to cover the same vertical height?

 

(It's like if you have a step which is 1 foot high then a ramp at 35 degrees would have to be almost 2 feet long)



Kartoffelmos #4 Posted 02 August 2014 - 03:54 PM

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View Postmalasorte111, on 02 August 2014 - 04:03 PM, said:

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MastersofHardcore #5 Posted 02 August 2014 - 05:57 PM

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Excellent video, FINALY an inside view into the vehicle. Now that is worth of having its interior restored, maybe wargaming can help?

If i remember correctly, the Jagdpanther driving there in red yellow camo, is in fighting condition.

 

This video shows it firing its main gun!

https://www.youtube....h?v=Oqm4gunNTFo



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View PostSalsify, on 02 August 2014 - 02:13 PM, said:

Not a criticism of the video or presenter, I enjoy watching these but at  around 4:25 there is mention of sloped armour increasing the effective thickness for "no extra weight" which is something I've often seen mentioned elsewhere but I wonder whether it's actually true.  

 

Maybe I'm just being pedantic or missing something but at an angle of 35 degrees the front plate would have to be made almost twice the height to cover the same vertical height?

 

(It's like if you have a step which is 1 foot high then a ramp at 35 degrees would have to be almost 2 feet long)

 

Consider two armour plates: one is vertical, and one has an inclination of 30 degrees from vertical. The armour plates must both offer a protection equivilant to 100 mm thickness. Obviously, the vertical plate must be 100 mm thick. If using pure trigonometry to calculate the required thickness of the other plate, we would get 100 mm × cos (30) ≈ 87 mm. While this result would seem to indicate a weight saving of 13 percent, it does not take into account that the armour plate would have to be longer to cover the same area.


If the armour plate would have to be 1000 mm tall, the height of the vertical armour plate would naturally be 1000 mm. The length of the sloped armour plate, however, would have to be longer, since sloping the armour would reduce the height covered by a plate 1000 mm long. The exact length is easily calculated as 1000 mm ÷ cos(30) ≈ 1155 mm. Since 100 mm × 1000 mm ≈ 87 mm × 1155 mm, it is demonstrated that the weight will be identical of two plates that has the same horizontal thickness and covers the same area, regardless of slope

 

So technically you are not wrong. But as the Jagdpanther is a tank destroyer, rather than a gun tank, its frontal sloped armour extends from edge of lower glacis panel to the top of the superstructure, thus giving it necessary additional length, and not gaining extra weight compared to what would happen with a gun tank.

 

 



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View PostHunter1911, on 02 August 2014 - 08:40 PM, said:

 

Consider two armour plates: one is vertical, and one has an inclination of 30 degrees from vertical. The armour plates must both offer a protection equivilant to 100 mm thickness. Obviously, the vertical plate must be 100 mm thick. If using pure trigonometry to calculate the required thickness of the other plate, we would get 100 mm × cos (30) ≈ 87 mm. While this result would seem to indicate a weight saving of 13 percent, it does not take into account that the armour plate would have to be longer to cover the same area.


If the armour plate would have to be 1000 mm tall, the height of the vertical armour plate would naturally be 1000 mm. The length of the sloped armour plate, however, would have to be longer, since sloping the armour would reduce the height covered by a plate 1000 mm long. The exact length is easily calculated as 1000 mm ÷ cos(30) ≈ 1155 mm. Since 100 mm × 1000 mm ≈ 87 mm × 1155 mm, it is demonstrated that the weight will be identical of two plates that has the same horizontal thickness and covers the same area, regardless of slope

 

So technically you are not wrong. But as the Jagdpanther is a tank destroyer, rather than a gun tank, its frontal sloped armour extends from edge of lower glacis panel to the top of the superstructure, thus giving it necessary additional length, and not gaining extra weight compared to what would happen with a gun tank.

 

 

 

Thank you for the response, I misunderstood and thought the angle was measured from the horizontal which obviously gives a much longer plate compared to the vertical.

 

 



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View PostHunter1911, on 02 August 2014 - 08:40 PM, said:

 

Consider two armour plates: one is vertical, and one has an inclination of 30 degrees from vertical. The armour plates must both offer a protection equivilant to 100 mm thickness. Obviously, the vertical plate must be 100 mm thick. If using pure trigonometry to calculate the required thickness of the other plate, we would get 100 mm × cos (30) ≈ 87 mm. While this result would seem to indicate a weight saving of 13 percent, it does not take into account that the armour plate would have to be longer to cover the same area.


If the armour plate would have to be 1000 mm tall, the height of the vertical armour plate would naturally be 1000 mm. The length of the sloped armour plate, however, would have to be longer, since sloping the armour would reduce the height covered by a plate 1000 mm long. The exact length is easily calculated as 1000 mm ÷ cos(30) ≈ 1155 mm. Since 100 mm × 1000 mm ≈ 87 mm × 1155 mm, it is demonstrated that the weight will be identical of two plates that has the same horizontal thickness and covers the same area, regardless of slope

 

So technically you are not wrong. But as the Jagdpanther is a tank destroyer, rather than a gun tank, its frontal sloped armour extends from edge of lower glacis panel to the top of the superstructure, thus giving it necessary additional length, and not gaining extra weight compared to what would happen with a gun tank.

 

 

 

However, you do save weight on the sides of the tank which are now triangular and half the size (and weight) they would be if the front armour was vertical. Of course, you also lose space inside the tank if you have a wedge shape instead of a box.

 

I think the shape of the Jagdpanther is awesome .... the Ferrari of the tank world ;-)

 

 

 

 



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When you play the Jagdpanther in WoT, you really feel like a panther. It's simple, amazing, very capable, and deadly.

Testastretta #10 Posted 03 August 2014 - 08:24 AM

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All these superlatives, and still, in the game , WG has of course (since its German!)  nerfed it to mediocrity.

The forgery continues...



nHenkpas #11 Posted 03 August 2014 - 10:24 PM

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Cheers Chieftain, another great video I really apreciate the extra info on the history of the development. Keep 'm coming!

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View PostnHenkpas, on 03 August 2014 - 10:24 PM, said:

Cheers Chieftain, another great video I really apreciate the extra info on the history of the development. Keep 'm coming!

 

Ummm Challenger but thanks anyway :smile:



ShaikoTank #13 Posted 04 August 2014 - 08:07 AM

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Nice video. I was also amazed by size of this beast. I thought it is smaller. I wonder which tank will come next in this series? :great:

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View PostThe_Challenger, on 04 August 2014 - 12:58 AM, said:

 

Ummm Challenger but thanks anyway :smile:

 

Easy mistake to make I guess :teethhappy:

 

 

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Galway #15 Posted 04 August 2014 - 04:15 PM

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For lordy sake, will someone please tell him to STOP sticking his arms forward whenever he opens his mouth. Even when he's sat down the first thing he does when he opens his mouth is pop his hands out.

Im sure the strings for the mouth and arms are not connected !!

 

Apart from that its all good stuff, its ARMazing !

 

(seriously, put you'r hands in your pockets or hold a microphone)



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View PostShaikoTank, on 04 August 2014 - 08:07 AM, said:

Nice video. I was also amazed by size of this beast. I thought it is smaller. I wonder which tank will come next in this series? :great:

 

Begins in T ends in OG :smile:



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View PostGalway, on 04 August 2014 - 04:15 PM, said:

 

 

For lordy sake, will someone please tell him to STOP sticking his arms forward whenever he opens his mouth. Even when he's sat down the first thing he does when he opens his mouth is pop his hands out.

Im sure the strings for the mouth and arms are not connected !!

 

Apart from that its all good stuff, its ARMazing !

 

(seriously, put you'r hands in your pockets or hold a microphone)

 

Lol, yes yes, I know, its an old Army Gunnery Instructor Isam, I promise I will cut my arms of for the next series :sad:


Edited by The_Challenger, 04 August 2014 - 08:03 PM.


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That engine sound   :wub:

And I thought that Jagdpanther is a bit smaller...but it's huge, and inside is so spacious.


Edited by iulian95rosu, 04 August 2014 - 08:10 PM.


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Such a legend.

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Nice, concise and interesting video. :smiles:

 

My only complaints are that the audio needs volume compression and the sound effects during the red splashes are way too loud, but those are issues for the production team.






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