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Alteisen #121 Posted 05 August 2014 - 09:55 AM

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View Postcherry2blost, on 05 August 2014 - 09:28 AM, said:

 

How about you get your head removed from your bottom. .... supercillious elitist....

Wow, very insulty, much threatened, wow.

 

Don't really see anything wrong about saying that not willing to do something seriously impacts whether you will be able to do it?



hgjwz #122 Posted 05 August 2014 - 10:21 AM

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View Postcherry2blost, on 05 August 2014 - 10:28 AM, said:

 

How about you get your head removed from your bottom. .... supercillious elitist....

 

well elitist is way better than being total moron/dickhead in my book. Something to think about for ya.

 

edit: not saying divinity is elitist here.


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View Posthgjwz, on 05 August 2014 - 10:21 AM, said:

 

well elitist is way better than being total moron/dickhead in my book. Something to think about for ya.

 

edit: not saying divinity is elitist here.

 

By this post you prove that you are a moron/dickhead elitist.

 

You act like all cums are to be treated as Gods and non-cums are all [edited]heads.



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View Post7049, on 05 August 2014 - 11:32 AM, said:

 

By this post you prove that you are a moron/dickhead elitist.

 

You act like all cums are to be treated as Gods and non-cums are all [edited]heads.

 

Wow so now you are allowed to insult uni players with total immunity while we just have to take it ?

I probably don't have to tell how stupid you sound with this post but ye go ahead get it off your stomach if you feel the need to.

 

add: like you seriously telling that cherry2:s post was useful for anything else but insulting here ? Get real and take it if you start throwing out the ammunition in the first place. Also if you don't agree with my earlier statements regarding the damage it doesn't make me a idiot.


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View Posthgjwz, on 05 August 2014 - 10:33 AM, said:

 

Wow so now you are allowed to insult uni players with total immunity while we just have to take it ?

I probably don't have to tell how stupid you sound with this post but ye go ahead get it off your stomach if you feel the need to.

 

add: like you seriously telling that cherry2:s post was useful for anything else but insulting here ? Get real and take it if you start throwing out the ammunition in the first place. Also if you don't agree with my earlier statements regarding the damage it doesn't make me a idiot.

 

Well you started talking about dickheads/morons and how easy it is to do 1800 dpg average in a tier 9 medium tank. Well sorry but I doubt that very much.

 

Doing 1000 dpg avg would already be nice.



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1800 dpg is barely above your HP. And you are T9 so no need to worry about +2 enemies. You are pretty much a burden to the team with less than 1800 dpg. If you Yolorush into the closest chokepoint in a med you are doing it wrong.

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View Post7049, on 05 August 2014 - 11:56 AM, said:

 

Well you started talking about dickheads/morons and how easy it is to do 1800 dpg average in a tier 9 medium tank. Well sorry but I doubt that very much.

 

Doing 1000 dpg avg would already be nice.

 

I never mentioned dickheads/morons until cherry made hes post and i am sorry  but most of the "average" players iv seen can actually pull of their tanks health in damage (generally 1600-1800 damage t9) so if you cannot do it then i guess you are below average player then.

 

Nor did i ever judge players if they cannot pull of that 1800 damage per game, but telling its highly uncommon amount of damage is simply just false. Then resorting to excuses like platoons, camping, mods or heck any of those 100th excuses iv seen in these forums is just super low.

 

Finally resulting to insult us when you don't agree and telling me to not fire couple bombs back at you without being called moron, well you probably know by now how idiotic that sounds.


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View PostDragos_CS, on 05 August 2014 - 11:00 AM, said:

1800 dpg is barely above your HP. And you are T9 so no need to worry about +2 enemies. You are pretty much a burden to the team with less than 1800 dpg. If you Yolorush into the closest chokepoint in a med you are doing it wrong.

 

Well tier 10 TDs are in effect two tier above a tier 9 medium. Any medium that snipes or camps is a useless medium. I cannot remember the last battle in any tier 9 tank that there were not at least 5 or more tier 10 tanks. How do you expect a tier 9 medium to constantly do 1800 damage vs tier 10 tanks? A medium will be killed in 1-3 hits by tier 10 tanks. Even some tier 8 tanks will kill a tier 9 medium in 2 hits (ISU).



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for crying out loud the op pulls 1600 avg in hes t9 tank and hes 51 % player. I could probably find 10 more examples if id bother to search.

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View Post7049, on 05 August 2014 - 11:56 AM, said:

 

Well you started talking about dickheads/morons and how easy it is to do 1800 dpg average in a tier 9 medium tank. Well sorry but I doubt that very much.

 

Doing 1000 dpg avg would already be nice.

1000 dpg is hilariously low. 3 shots on average --> yolorusher.



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View Posthgjwz, on 05 August 2014 - 11:02 AM, said:

 

I never mentioned dickheads/morons until cherry made hes post and i am sorry  but most of the "average" players iv seen can actually pull of their tanks health in damage (generally 1600-1800 damage t9) so if you cannot do it then i guess you are below average player then.

 

Nor did i ever judge players if they cannot pull of that 1800 damage per game, but telling its highly uncommon amount of damage is simply just false. Then resorting to excuses like platoons, camping, mods or heck any of those 100th excuses iv seen in these forums is just super low.

 

Finally resulting to insult us when you don't agree and telling me to not fire couple bombs back at you without being called moron, well you probably know by now how idiotic that sounds.

 

doing 1800 damage avg in most tier 9 mediums means you are well into green, maybe even blue ranges. We both know that green or blue is not the average player. The average player is red/orange. I do not know where to look it up. But there are some site that will tell you how much damage a tank does on average and how much you need to do to become a cum.

 

I honestly have no idea. But I suspect 1800 damage per game avg is well above the average. But I could be mistaken.



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View Post7049, on 05 August 2014 - 12:06 PM, said:

 

Well tier 10 TDs are in effect two tier above a tier 9 medium. Any medium that snipes or camps is a useless medium. I cannot remember the last battle in any tier 9 tank that there were not at least 5 or more tier 10 tanks. How do you expect a tier 9 medium to constantly do 1800 damage vs tier 10 tanks? A medium will be killed in 1-3 hits by tier 10 tanks. Even some tier 8 tanks will kill a tier 9 medium in 2 hits (ISU).

By taking vantage/forward points carefully and waiting for a window of opportunity. If that does not come, you switch flanks and take shots at spotted targets to weaken the enemy. If you survive to end-game then you flank camper TDs and raep arty.



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View Posthgjwz, on 05 August 2014 - 11:08 AM, said:

for crying out loud the op pulls 1600 avg in hes t9 tank and hes 51 % player. I could probably find 10 more examples if id bother to search.

 

51% win is well above average. The average is I guess about 48% win. What percentage of the players have 51% win?



hgjwz #134 Posted 05 August 2014 - 11:14 AM

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oh just stop plz

 

Overall
Average Win Rate:49.38%
Average Tier:5.58
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and the "average" damage of most t9 medium tanks is around 1500 - 1600.

 

(and yes i just searched all that info is 2 mins)

 

What other figures you need to prove my point here ? Basically if you cannot pull 1500-1800 damage avg you are doing something wrong with your med tanks.


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The server average is lowered by play5funs that dont even get to tier 9, let alone mediums. So yeah, by T9 medium standards, 1000 is bad, 1800 is decent and 2600 is super uni in my book.

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Just made another check and the average stats of ACTIVE players is quite higher.

1113 wn8 

50,63% WR

6.1 avg tier

So you can see the average isnt red/orange, it is yellow. I chose the active playerbase because those are the people you will meet in battle.



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Oh ya forgot that oh well.

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View Posthgjwz, on 05 August 2014 - 11:14 AM, said:

oh just stop plz

 

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and the "average" damage of most t9 medium tanks is around 1500 - 1600.

 

(and yes i just searched all that info is 2 mins)

 

What other figures you need to prove my point here ? Basically if you cannot pull 1500-1800 damage avg you are doing something wrong with your med tanks.

 

1500-1600 is not the same as 1800. You seem to be lowering your own standard to fit your argument. Are those 1500-1600 numbers pure from random, solo, no gold ammo games? I am not saying they are or that they boost the stats hugely but for the discussion it would be nice if we were all talking about the same.

 

The avg damage in my E-50 is about 1100-1200. My E-50M has about the same.
 

Also define "wrong". 



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View Post7049, on 05 August 2014 - 12:08 PM, said:

The avg damage in my E-50 is about 1100-1200. My E-50M has about the same.

I think he needs some driving lessons from patient cums.



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View Post7049, on 05 August 2014 - 01:08 PM, said:

 

1500-1600 is not the same as 1800. You seem to be lowering your own standard to fit your argument. Are those 1500-1600 numbers pure from random, solo, no gold ammo games? I am not saying they are or that they boost the stats hugely but for the discussion it would be nice if we were all talking about the same.

 

The avg damage in my E-50 is about 1100-1200. My E-50M has about the same.
 

Also define "wrong". 

Why no gold ammo? Its there to be used.

Also, 2250 dpg in my T54, 90% solopubs including the stock grind i was too poor to bypass.

Also ,1100 in the E mothafacking 50M??? 3 shots per game with a 0.3 acc/270 pen gun? Dude, go down the tiers and learn how to mediums. You are nothing but a disappointment for your team and a free XP Piñata for the enemies. Sorry to say that. Again, you have a 0.3 gun so you really should snipe, you are made for that.






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