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Darkblood96 #21 Posted 03 August 2014 - 10:23 PM

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View Postwims80, on 03 August 2014 - 10:20 PM, said:

Quoted for truth for the moderator



Aye we dont see much of epic jumps in RNG episodes these days. 

Plus seriously is someone really defending that T54 is worse than E50? Cheesus bacon..



JarysCz #22 Posted 03 August 2014 - 10:23 PM

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View PostDarkblood96, on 03 August 2014 - 11:09 PM, said:

 

Every medium has medicore pen. E50 has 220 so what. I dont see much of a difference between 218 and 220. And T54 has epic gold pen. 


někdy je dobré podívat se na skutečná data zde používaných tanků se skutečností a realitou ve které je vidět i rozdílná kvalita oceli. Jsou to věci které WG nezohledňuje, naopak si je upravuje podle přání. Moc dobré, když se po několika měsících změní parametry tanku.



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View Posthedi2222, on 03 August 2014 - 10:15 PM, said:

Excuse me but the First sentence made me stop reading .

WZ 132 vs t-54 frontly . Why ?

Dont expect it to pen anyhow , so dont bother . You can basically pen T-54's sides at any angle with 175+ pen guns . SO stop being an idiot . Stop whining . and learn aim .


its not about what tank im using or how. 189 pen on unangled T-54 armor and it bounced 3 times in a row. T-54 is freaking OP POS.

 

Edit: T54E1 has 110pen. i do just fine with it. but id trade that pen for that tiny T-54 hull/turret combo and its speed anyday.


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View PostJarysCz, on 03 August 2014 - 09:23 PM, said:


někdy je dobré podívat se na skutečná data zde používaných tanků se skutečností a realitou ve které je vidět i rozdílná kvalita oceli. Jsou to věci které WG nezohledňuje, naopak si je upravuje podle přání. Moc dobré, když se po několika měsících změní parametry tanku.

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 03 August 2014 - 09:27 PM, said:


its not about what tank im using or how. 189 pen on unangled T-54 armor and it bounced 3 times in a row. T-54 is freaking OP POS.

Try to gain attitude over the T-54 driver and watch him rage on how inneffective his armor becomes . Been there see that .



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T-54 is the most overpowered tier 9 medium in the game, don't compare anything with it.



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View PostSturmtiger_304, on 03 August 2014 - 09:30 PM, said:

T-54 is the most overpowered tier 9 medium in the game, don't compare anything with it.

I quite find the centurion 7/1 to be able to defeat the T-54 easily .



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You beat him as he side hugs you with his tiny profile and bouncey turret and you cant do anything about it and he slams into your paper HEAVY TANK armor?

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 03 August 2014 - 09:45 PM, said:

You beat him as he side hugs you with his tiny profile and bouncey turret and you cant do anything about it and he slams into your paper HEAVY TANK armor?

Seeing this statement made me lose interest in discussing further .



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View Posthedi2222, on 03 August 2014 - 10:49 PM, said:

Seeing this statement made me lose interest in discussing further .


I bet. keep hugging ur little statpadder tank made for solo unicums.



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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 03 August 2014 - 11:54 PM, said:


I bet. keep hugging ur little statpadder tank made for solo unicums.

 

If you think it's a statpadder tank then why don't you play it?

 

I really don't get this QQ, you want to be able to pen every single tank frontally with a tier 8 SCOUT?



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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 03 August 2014 - 10:39 PM, said:

That medium tank hull armor is bouncing my 189 pen WZ-132 shots point blank dead on no angle. im sorry but i have seen heavy tanks with worse armor layouts than that. add to the fact it has retardedly fast speed (he was going backwards and i was going downwards a hill) he was keeping up with my speeds. i couldent get around him..it was break neck speed for both of us..he was going BACKWARDS!

 

What the hell made you think giving a medium tank 189 effective frontal armor was balanced WG? it seems you still have not balanced that all around jack-of-every-tank-in-game. all its missing is arty satalite view with orbital cannon. it can scout/take far too many bounce shots/flank/lead a freaking charge with that troll armor.

crappy wg policy, almost all soviet tanks are op but too many idiots play this game and when wg says to them - tanks are "balanced" - idiots believe because they are too stupid to figure anything out on their own, all they can is clicking the buttons and then when somebody writes on forum that t54, isu, is3, kv-1s, kv, st1, obj 430 or any other soviet tank is op those idiots come and spam the thread with stuff like WT and Borsig is op, noob don't know how to shot t54, most funny thing is that idiots do not know either how to shoot t54 and they got raped every game by it but wg told them - tanks are balanced

fact is that most of soviet tanks and many american need nerfs but it's a soviet game so it won't happen until nobody will play this crappy game


Edited by Zitzeron, 03 August 2014 - 10:57 PM.


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jeez, just load gold after the first bounce

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 03 August 2014 - 11:27 PM, said:


1.) its not about what tank im using or how. 189 pen on unangled T-54 armor and it bounced 3 times in a row. T-54 is freaking OP POS.

 

Edit: T54E1 has 110pen. 2.) i do just fine with it. but 3.) id trade that pen for that tiny T-54 hull/turret combo and its speed anyday.

 

1.) Sure it is. Every time you fail to penetrate something you feel the need the create a thread about it and cry. Every time something penetrates your vehicle you feel the need to create a thread about it and cry.

 

2.) No you don't. Nor with the AMX 13 90. Not anywhere near 'fine'. Sod off with the cry threads and actually improve your game, for crying out loud.

 

3.) Then sell the T54E1 and get the freakin' T-54...

 

 



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View PostSkarium, on 03 August 2014 - 10:55 PM, said:

 

If you think it's a statpadder tank then why don't you play it?

 

I really don't get this QQ, you want to be able to pen every single tank frontally with a tier 8 SCOUT?


Dont read my post then. i clearly stated its about the 189pen vs a mediums front armor. clearly all you care about is "hurrdurr u bed pleyer  u face wrong tenk in scout" just gtfo.

 

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no one forcing you to read my topics. dont like them? GTFO U SCRUB. im rather tierd of you douchebags coming into MY topics whining about MY posts when you are the ones coming in here reading them. no one forcing you to do it. but you find it your sworn duty to [edited]and moan about people bitching and moaning. just leave you ******


Edited by Search_Warrant, 04 August 2014 - 12:00 AM.


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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 04 August 2014 - 12:56 AM, said:


Dont read my post then. i clearly stated its about the 189pen vs a mediums front armor. clearly all you care about is "hurrdurr u bed pleyer  u face wrong tenk in scout" just gtfo.

 

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no one forcing you to read my topics. dont like them? GTFO U SCRUB. im rather tierd of you douchebags coming into MY topics whining about MY posts when you are the ones coming in here reading them. no one forcing you to do it. but you find it your sworn duty to [edited]and moan about people bitching and moaning. just leave you ******

 

Yes, and the fundamental idea of facing a medium frontally in a light tank is wrong. However, you seem to strongly deny that. Maybe if you accepted that you're not as good as you think you are, you might improve.

 

Also did you expect people not to read the thread and offer criticism if you posted it on a public forum? That's also a bit stupid.


Edited by Skarium, 04 August 2014 - 12:07 AM.


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This aint about my skills but you are sure as hell trying ur hardest to piss me off. im no unicum clearly but even i know 189pen should never bounce of a T9 mediums frontal plate with no clear weakspot.

 

You come into my thread and start throwing insults about my skills with no clear evidence. dont tell me "hurrdurr xvm reveals all" then you are clearly talkin out ur ****


Edited by Search_Warrant, 04 August 2014 - 12:14 AM.


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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 04 August 2014 - 01:10 AM, said:

This aint about my skills but you are sure as hell trying ur hardest to piss me off. im no unicum clearly but even i know 189pen should never bounce of a T9 mediums frontal plate with no clear weakspot.

 

Well there's two ways you can go about this: get better at shooting things in the sides or keep QQing about how your 189pen is not good enough so everything should be nerfed to 10mm of armour.



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I told you. getting to the side of a T-54 is impossible. he has scout mobility and agility! dont u think I TRIED get to his side armor? pretty sure a T8 should go threw the front of a T9 medium easy. especially with 189pen! T9 mediums fair enough i might bounce.  but that one tank is immune to scouts trying to damage him due to its jack-of-everything. its like giving my WZ-132 200 effective frontal and i just angle slightly to bounce high caliber guns. its exactly like that. its not fair. while ur at it give my WZ 200+ turret. then restamp it to T-54-132 and you got the picture.

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 04 August 2014 - 01:19 AM, said:

I told you. getting to the side of a T-54 is impossible. he has scout mobility and agility! dont u think I TRIED get to his side armor? pretty sure a T8 should go threw the front of a T9 medium easy. especially with 189pen! T9 mediums fair enough i might bounce.  but that one tank is immune to scouts trying to damage him due to its jack-of-everything. its like giving my WZ-132 200 effective frontal and i just angle slightly to bounce high caliber guns. its exactly like that. its not fair. while ur at it give my WZ 200+ turret. then restamp it to T-54-132 and you got the picture.

 

T8 heavy, yes. Most have 200+ pen which is mostly enough. T8 meds, somewhat. Tanks like the Indien have enough pen, but tanks like the T-44 cannot pen without loading gold. T8 tank destroyers? No problem.

 

 

T8 lights? NO. It requires a lot more skill and knowledge to get damage in a t8 light. Brawling with tanks that are higher tiers than you does not cut it.

 

Overall, you don't seem to realise the difference between a tier 8 LIGHT and a tier 9 MEDIUM, besides the already obvious tier difference.


Edited by Skarium, 04 August 2014 - 12:24 AM.





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