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calimero007 #61 Posted 11 September 2014 - 08:54 PM

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 05 September 2014 - 03:51 PM, said:

 

+1 indeed. no refund but you keep the exp you grinded as free exp on the tank im guessing so you can get the next tank pretty fast anyways.

 

 

With Client Test 2 I had the opportunity to check.

 

We are not getting our xp back !!!!

I am getting seriously p***ed off by this behavior....



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View Postcalimero007, on 11 September 2014 - 09:54 PM, said:

 

 

With Client Test 2 I had the opportunity to check.

 

We are not getting our xp back !!!!

I am getting seriously p***ed off by this behavior....

Oh yes we are...

http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/09/13/9-3-test-3-hotfixes/



azakow #63 Posted 13 September 2014 - 02:05 PM

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So I prepared 81k on M24 Chaffee. I know way to much.

 

I asume many others have prepared about 30k on their M24 Chaffee.

 

For me the calcualtion looks like this:

81k(preparation) + 43k(refund) - 28k(cost of M37) = 96k = 3840 Gold(conversion)

 

For many others the calculation will be:

30k(preparation) + 43k(refund) - 28k(cost of M37) = 45k = 1800 Gold(conversion)

 

The the calculation for none prep player will look like this:

43k(refund) - 28k(cost of M37) = 15k = 600 Gold(conversion)

 

This is a top class busisness model WG, you follow the "customers" request and earn money while doing so.

 

Please not not get me wrong, I do not mind the 3840 Gold to convert the leftover XP on my M24 Chaffee.

 

Thank you WG for the refund.

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Edited by azakow, 13 September 2014 - 02:15 PM.


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I had 100k exp ready in anticipation of the tank being up tiered.

 

Oh well. I made a solemn vow long ago to never convert exp for gold, it's an absolute waste of money.



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View PostJaegeroo, on 13 September 2014 - 11:54 AM, said:

 

 

Nice!


 

Nice to see that I am not the only one who screamed apeshit at WOT and that finally this had an effect. :)


 


 



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Well a little confused now, I had and sold the Chaffee, check the test server today and I don't appear to have any extra EXP on it.

 

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for people too lazy to click links...

FTR:

- Players who researched the M24 Chaffee received 43,340 experience points for this vehicle (SS: this is a compensation for the Chaffee XP price, this is NOT free XP, it is simply the XP difference between old and new Chaffee research cost)

 

i was right.



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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 13 September 2014 - 04:47 PM, said:

for people too lazy to click links...

FTR:

- Players who researched the M24 Chaffee received 43,340 experience points for this vehicle (SS: this is a compensation for the Chaffee XP price, this is NOT free XP, it is simply the XP difference between old and new Chaffee research cost)

 

i was right.

My understanding of this is:

 

The calculation for every player, who ever researched the M24 Chaffee is:

43k(refund) - 28k(cost of M37) = 15k = completely useless XP

 

At the same time, WG offers for every player, who ever researched the M24 Chaffee:

15k = 600 Gold(conversion) = 15k useful free XP

 

View Post3Form, on 13 September 2014 - 03:40 PM, said:

I had 100k exp ready in anticipation of the tank being up tiered.

 

Oh well. I made a solemn vow long ago to never convert exp for gold, it's an absolute waste of money.

This makes me think about it a second time. I have not yet a conlusion for my future customer behavior. I do not convert XP either.

Actually my free XP account is so fat, that writing about it is a waste of time already.

 

It was September 16th, 2011 when the elite M24 Chaffee arived in my garage.

Soon there after it became my "Queen of Hearts".

I assume this happend to many others in the same manner.

 

I have been looking forward to this change for more than 2 years. In May it was time to turn OFF the ACT and accumulate some XP.

I assume many others did so.

Spoiler

 

It cost an equivalent of about 1% crew training level.

 

Now we endup with the calculation above.

 

I remember when the T34 was about to become a prem vehicle. The modalities of the change were clear very early and everbody interessed could prepare far in advance.

Now I'm an interessted player in the M24 Chaffee and the modalities are published whit the CT1 server and significally changed with CT3 server.

My current impression about WG is not a good one.

 

But hey this is about 15k useless XP on M24 Chaffee.

 

Lets look where these 15k useless XP could be used:

Spoiler

 

  • Top Tracks
  • Top Turret
  • Top Gun

 

I asume we have all this at current, don't we!

 

Really WG, make every player, who ever researched the M24 Chaffee and is still interessted in this vehicle line only do the grind of 56.3k XP for the M41 Walker Buldog.

This could be "balanced" by putting the XP costs for M41 Walker Buldog (LT7) more into perspective with the XP cost for other nations LT7.

I am saying this, because grinding on 59-16 and AMX 12t is demanding at current.

The future commanders of T37 should have the same requirements.

 

At the end the Chaffee lovers will get two vehicles.

Every interessted player will have to adjust his play style respectively for either vehicle, in order to be as succesful as in the past.

 

I'm looking forward to M24 Chaffee and M41 Walker Buldog.:playing:

 

How does WG actually handle the KV-1S spilt for the players?

 


Edited by azakow, 14 September 2014 - 07:53 AM.


azakow #69 Posted 16 September 2014 - 06:22 AM

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Refund of 43340 XP is implemented.

 

Before

After

 

 



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Is it true that Chaffee exp price will be 12.480 in 9.3?

 

http://ftr.wot-news....-3-light-tanks/



azakow #71 Posted 16 September 2014 - 02:53 PM

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View PostSlobodan_covek, on 16 September 2014 - 03:28 PM, said:

Is it true that Chaffee exp price will be 12.480 in 9.3?

 

http://ftr.wot-news....-3-light-tanks/

Do you really asume we have better sources than FTR?

I asume yes.


Edited by azakow, 16 September 2014 - 02:58 PM.


Slobodan_covek #72 Posted 16 September 2014 - 03:31 PM

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OK, thanks. Because I don't want to waste any more of my time playing M5 Stuart.

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View Postazakow, on 13 September 2014 - 02:05 PM, said:

So I prepared 81k on M24 Chaffee. I know way to much.

 

I asume many others have prepared about 30k on their M24 Chaffee.

 

For me the calcualtion looks like this:

81k(preparation) + 43k(refund) - 28k(cost of M37) = 96k = 3840 Gold(conversion)

 

For many others the calculation will be:

30k(preparation) + 43k(refund) - 28k(cost of M37) = 45k = 1800 Gold(conversion)

 

The the calculation for none prep player will look like this:

43k(refund) - 28k(cost of M37) = 15k = 600 Gold(conversion)

 

This is a top class busisness model WG, you follow the "customers" request and earn money while doing so.

 

Please not not get me wrong, I do not mind the 3840 Gold to convert the leftover XP on my M24 Chaffee.

 

Thank you WG for the refund.

:honoring:

 

+1

 

Same here. I have already +70k xp on my Chaffee, I do not need any more xp on Chaffee, just give extra xp as free xp (or gold to make up costs of 45k free xp conversion). Or give give the extra xp on the tank coming after Chaffee. Completely useless on Chaffee.


Edited by WhistlerFI, 17 September 2014 - 08:21 AM.


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I have ~43k on the Chaffee and I  most of it will sit there forever as I haven't needed to convert FreeXP yet.

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View PostWhistlerFI, on 17 September 2014 - 09:12 AM, said:

 

+1

 

Same here. I have already +70k xp on my Chaffee, I do not need any more xp on Chaffee, just give extra xp as free xp (or gold to make up costs of 45k free xp conversion). Or give give the extra xp on the tank coming after Chaffee. Completely useless on Chaffee.

This will be the T37.

 

Taking a closer look at the T37, you will find that you have to research the top gun, top turret and top tracks again.

All this sums up to about 17k XP.

Spoiler

 

My plead is to use the refund of 43k in two steps.

  1. Take the refund and research the T37 (28.1k).
  2. Take the rest (15.2k) and put it as combat experience onto the T37.

 

The current Chaffee owners can then buy the T37 for credits.

After this the available combat experience of the T37 can be used to reseach the modules, which they already have on their old Chaffee.

There will still be a little gap, but this would be marginal, because you grind on the T37 anyways in order to reseach the M41 Walker Bulldog.

 

It would mean that all "prepers" still have alot of XP on the new Chaffee.

 

Most important it means, the players are handled in a fair way during the split of this vehicle.



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View Post3Form, on 13 September 2014 - 03:40 PM, said:

I had 100k exp ready in anticipation of the tank being up tiered.

 

Oh well. I made a solemn vow long ago to never convert exp for gold, it's an absolute waste of money.

 

I took a similiar gamble, before the new US lineup details got announced. I accumulated 61k XP, guessing Chaffee will go to T6 (as what it basically is). Well, this one didn't pay off, right? :tongue:

 

View Postazakow, on 17 September 2014 - 10:57 AM, said:

This will be the T37.

 

Taking a closer look at the T37, you will find that you have to research the top gun, top turret and top tracks again.

All this sums up to about 17k XP.

Spoiler

 

My plead is to use the refund of 43k in two steps.

  1. Take the refund and research the T37 (28.1k).
  2. Take the rest (15.2k) and put it as combat experience onto the T37.

 

The current Chaffee owners can then buy the T37 for credits.

After this the available combat experience of the T37 can be used to reseach the modules, which they already have on their old Chaffee.

There will still be a little gap, but this would be marginal, because you grind on the T37 anyways in order to reseach the M41 Walker Bulldog.

 

It would mean that all "prepers" still have alot of XP on the new Chaffee.

 

Most important it means, the players are handled in a fair way during the split of this vehicle.

 

Fair point and this would be the best way to please us... but It looks that the priorities are different. Seems we are getting just enough carrot not to whine (too much), but the most important part was not to hurt the bussiness or even create some new opportunities.

 

Frankly, that's just the modern world way to do things. If it works IRL for the majority, it means it's good :trollface:

 

 

 

 


Edited by IRSanchez, 17 September 2014 - 03:11 PM.


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Is anything on the T37 unlocked by reason of havign been researched on the old Chaffee?  (e.g. the gun, turret etc?)



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View PostVeryRisky, on 17 September 2014 - 06:04 PM, said:

Is anything on the T37 unlocked by reason of havign been researched on the old Chaffee?  (e.g. the gun, turret etc?)

No.

 

The turret looks the same, but got a new name, hence you have to reseach it again.

The T91 gun got the same name, but you also have to research it.

 

You might be lucky and have the top engine from other US vehicles.

I've not tested whether you are able mount the top engine without the top tracks, which of course have to be researched.

 

Have a look at the picture above in the spoiler.


Edited by azakow, 17 September 2014 - 05:42 PM.


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View PostIRSanchez, on 17 September 2014 - 03:08 PM, said:

I took a similiar gamble, before the new US lineup details got announced. I accumulated 61k XP, guessing Chaffee will go to T6 (as what it basically is). Well, this one didn't pay off, right? :tongue:

 

 

Yeah hahah. Well I'm not bitter or anything, earning that exp on the Chaffee was as far from a chore as it could possibly be. It was a pleasure and the exp seemed to pile up in no time.

 

One of the few tanks where you can just sit and play and hours can go by so quickly :)



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View Postazakow, on 17 September 2014 - 05:41 PM, said:

No.

 

The turret looks the same, but got a new name, hence you have to reseach it again.

The T91 gun got the same name, but you also have to research it.

 

You might be lucky and have the top engine from other US vehicles.

I've not tested whether you are able mount the top engine without the top tracks, which of course have to be researched.

 

Have a look at the picture above in the spoiler.

 

Bit mean on the gun.  I want my 76mm T94 back naow!

 

Found http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Engine/Data

It's the one on the T69 and M44 so I'll have it.   (NB, it was a lot less painful to gain the XP for that on a T6 arty than if I'd done in on a T8 Med!)

 

 







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