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eusdeenius #1 Posted 13 August 2014 - 09:49 AM

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Hello fellow tankers and especially light tank drivers. How do you find the MT-25 after the buff? I started the game as another stupid heavy tank driver until I found how exciting the LTs are and how the speed and not being seen is a better protection then some armor. I played the first 20-30 games before the buff without left click control, map knowledge and inadequate crew. I have a sweet spot for underdogs, I have an eye on the AFK Panther too, and I quiet enjoy the tank for now although my stats are terrible yet.

Anyway my questions are;

 

 

  1. Do you enjoy the tank and will it be a keeper for you after the tier 7-8s are introduced?
  2. Any of you tried the 37mm auto?
  3. How would you rate the MT among the other tier 6 LTs?

 

 

PS. Thanks for your opinions and please no whiners how T-50-2 was great and WG stole it from you and blah blah.


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KLguns #2 Posted 13 August 2014 - 10:01 AM

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Lets see this weekend, I will rebuy it on friday to get some xp ready for the T7, I will mostly use it in Skirmishes though.

voodoospirit #3 Posted 13 August 2014 - 08:22 PM

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MT-25 is better, faster acceleration helped a lot, i kept it after the T-50² nerf, but wasn t fun at all (still managed to keep the wr of my T-50² tho but more as apssive scout)...now i can scout faster, climb hill faster.....it s became a decent tank.

 

afk panther is grinded but it s not a scout...it s a sniping plateform with a 76mm ......or a ramming anti scout...

 

i used the 37mm but i loaded gold in it, too many bounces and even with gold , bounces on anything harder than scouts, and a huuuuuuuggeee reload time...but u can schred french scouts fast....

 

in tier 6, i put the mt-25 in the upper side of the tier6 scouts

 

and btw...i m essentially a scout player :)


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CountOfTuscany #4 Posted 13 August 2014 - 08:55 PM

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View Posteusdeenius, on 13 August 2014 - 10:49 AM, said:

 

  1. Any of you tried the 37mm auto?

 

All though I'm interested in developing my light tank skills, I haven't played the MT-25, nor am I planning to do so soon (other light lines look more interesting to me). 37mm gun doesn't seem to be really useful on the tank (DAT pen...), but you can do things like this (skip to 10:20):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtXmG7N4LBw&list=UURQecBHPYKpxYC6XiejfLVQ

:D

 

Spoiler

 


Edited by CountOfTuscany, 13 August 2014 - 08:55 PM.


voodoospirit #5 Posted 13 August 2014 - 08:57 PM

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if u know nothing about scouting, camo rules,spots,  tazilon site helps a lot.

patrikmorskazvezda #6 Posted 14 August 2014 - 07:50 AM

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Its great for raming other light tanks! Especialy AMX 12t. Fun! :)

eusdeenius #7 Posted 14 August 2014 - 10:05 AM

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Yes taz is fantastic. But reading is not enough. It comes with experience. The guy has 25 times more battles on one tank than all my games combined. And yes he has nice stuff. It's nice to hear that you guys enjoy the tank. How about the equipment you guys use? I hardly shoot so no rammer. Camo net, binoculars and optics.

CountOfTuscany #8 Posted 14 August 2014 - 10:33 AM

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Again, I don't have experience with the MT-25 (so don't take my comments for truth).

I expect the MT-25 to be a better active scout than a passive scout. In that case I would surely pick Coated optics and then something like vents and binocs (for the moments you are passive scouting). camo net is an option, but I would pick camo net only on pure passive scouts.



voodoospirit #9 Posted 14 August 2014 - 11:05 AM

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i have camo, binocs and vents ( t-50² nerf,lack of acceleration until the last patch)

active scouting with all those TDs, is asking to be wiped out fast.... but i usually active scout at the mid/end game when there are less ennemies to OS me.

 

usually i passive spot or make a short rang  active recon (sand/towns) , just to check how the enemies deploy, then passive scouting until no more reds are shown or killed then  active spotting/infiltrating for arties, remember the 57mm is low alpha and mt-25 is not THAT nimble to avoid the shots ( thx 8.6 precision patch)

 

not far from the the 2nd excellence mark now...4% to get it..


Edited by voodoospirit, 14 August 2014 - 11:06 AM.


eusdeenius #10 Posted 14 August 2014 - 05:04 PM

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Wow well done voodoospirit. I have some 30k free xp on my MT-25. I wonder if I should get the LTTB immediately or not. As I said I love the tank but I would like a 6 pounder instead of the 57mm.

voodoospirit #11 Posted 14 August 2014 - 07:29 PM

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i unlocked the crew xp boost and stock xp for the tier7, when it comes out, i ll get it and put the crew of my old T-50 (nerfed one) in it

TomiF #12 Posted 19 August 2014 - 12:09 AM

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I first got MT-25 when T-50-2 got removed. I tried it couple of games and found it was really bad and sold it. Now I bought it back recently to get xp for new soviet lights and wow. It seems to be pretty good now. Only I can't seem to decide which gun to use. 57mm to deal more damage or 37mm autoloader to make this thing absolute beast against other scouts and to punish weakly armored tanks, especially WT series. It can also kill 2 arties pretty fast, but then you have to go through long reload. Which one is better one and why?

voodoospirit #13 Posted 19 August 2014 - 01:36 PM

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i used the 37mm a long time with sometimes gold....reload is too long, can only ( not always) pen scouts or some arties. 

the 57mm has still a fast shooting rate, u can pen more tanks ( well..with low damages but it still can detrack/assist).

 

so i went back to the 57mm and no regret.



Juti_5 #14 Posted 19 August 2014 - 05:35 PM

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MT-25 is still very underpowered and here's why.

In a spotting race tier 4 Luchs will outspot MT-25 by 10 meters.

In a spotting race tier 5 Leopard will outspot MT-25 by 20 meters.

 

Luchs is about third smaller which makes it a lot easier to hide in a bush.

Leopard and Luchs both beat MT-25 by a mile in soft stats and while MT-25 can mount the 57mm, it's still way too inaccurate and it has no gun depression which means it can't deliver that damage from most spots.

 

It's not a horrible tank, but it's beaten by way too many lower tier scout and above all, it's frustrating to drive and hence not fun at all. If I would have to choose a troll scout for tier 10 games, I'd take the Leo or Luchs any day over the MT-25. It's still very far from the old T-50-2.



DMminion #15 Posted 24 August 2014 - 08:49 PM

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I don't get why the MT-25 can't mount a gun rammer and the T-50-2 could. It's the only thing I need because after the engine buff, it's pretty damn fast and I decided to rebuy it.

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View PostJuti_5, on 19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM, said:

In a spotting race tier 4 Luchs will outspot MT-25 by 10 meters.

In a spotting race tier 5 Leopard will outspot MT-25 by 20 meters.

Thats theory. In practical I have never been outspotted by anyone.

 

Spoiler

 

Luchs and Leopard are fast food for the MT.



Juti_5 #17 Posted 25 August 2014 - 08:26 PM

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View PostLameTactics, on 25 August 2014 - 03:51 PM, said:

 

Thats theory. In practical I have never been outspotted by anyone.

 

Spoiler

 

Luchs and Leopard are fast food for the MT.

 

Get your facts straight

 

The only reason you wouldn't get outspotted by Luchs or Leopard is if they were being driven with much worse crews then your MT-25's. The base camo of MT-25 is completely rubbish. Bloody Batchat has better stationary camo.



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View PostJuti_5, on 19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM, said:

MT-25 is still very underpowered and here's why.

In a spotting race tier 4 Luchs will outspot MT-25 by 10 meters.

In a spotting race tier 5 Leopard will outspot MT-25 by 20 meters.

 

Luchs is about third smaller which makes it a lot easier to hide in a bush.

Leopard and Luchs both beat MT-25 by a mile in soft stats and while MT-25 can mount the 57mm, it's still way too inaccurate and it has no gun depression which means it can't deliver that damage from most spots.

 

It's not a horrible tank, but it's beaten by way too many lower tier scout and above all, it's frustrating to drive and hence not fun at all. If I would have to choose a troll scout for tier 10 games, I'd take the Leo or Luchs any day over the MT-25. It's still very far from the old T-50-2.

I really wonder why you are worried about being outspotted by LT4/5.

I'm ansking because, in case you meet them in a regular match, the MT-25 role will not be the role of a spotter, but a fighter.

 

You get beaten by lower tier scouts?!

I suggest to adjust (get real and forget soft stats) your gameplay to the individual vehicle rather than the vehicle class.

 

You also make it sound like the T-50-2 had a better gun depression, hence was able to deliver damage at more locations.

IMO, the "problem of an inacurrate gun" resides at the keyboard.

 

Moreover has the "troll scout" play style been successful in terms of winning a match?

IMO, it was simply trolling the opponents and the own team mostly.

The only fun was with the troll commander of the T-50-2.

 

How many matches have you played the T-50-2?

How many matches have you played the MT-25?

 

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Edited by azakow, 26 August 2014 - 08:13 AM.


KLguns #19 Posted 26 August 2014 - 08:15 AM

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MT-25 is good in SH T6 battles, not as good as chaffee, but good enough.

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View Postazakow, on 26 August 2014 - 09:03 AM, said:

I really wonder why you are worried about being outspotted by LT4/5.

I'm ansking because, in case you meet them in a regular match, the MT-25 role will not be the role of a spotter, but a fighter.

 

You get beaten by lower tier scouts?!

I suggest to adjust (get real and forget soft stats) your gameplay to the individual vehicle rather than the vehicle class.

 

You also make it sound like the T-50-2 had a better gun depression, hence was able to deliver damage at more locations.

IMO, the "problem of an inacurrate gun" resides at the keyboard.

 

Moreover has the "troll scout" play style been successful in terms of winning a match?

IMO, it was simply trolling the opponents and the own team mostly.

The only fun was with the troll commander of the T-50-2.

 

How many matches have you played the T-50-2?

How many matches have you played the MT-25?

 

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T-50-2 for ~500 (@ basic 67% winrate) of which possibly ~50 in CW.

And no, I'm not really worried about being outspotted by tier 4-5 light tanks, but it equals to the fact that even those are better tanks at spotting alone.

 

I never really even paid attention to the gun depression of T-50-2 because it never really bothered me. In MT-25 it bothers me way too often.

The biggest problem with MT is that it's simply boring. If you wanna play it successfully you have to play it solo or in a platoon with similar MM tanks. I don't find it challenging enough and that equals boring to me.

 

Maybe a better crew might make it better (I've only got 2nd skills at some 50% I think), but I'm having a hard time finding any point for it since, like I said, I think Leopard and Luchs are just better tanks even in higher tier games. The 57mm is its only redeeming feature, but even that feels not-so-great. At least in T-50-2 it sounded great.







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