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who_dares_wins #61 Posted 28 September 2015 - 06:23 PM

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View PostPrussian12, on 10 September 2015 - 04:39 AM, said:

Honestly, I don't think the nA is obsolete, in fact, in  a tier 4-5 game, it can carry matches. It can easily beat the luchs, even if the luch as an autoloader. 16 second of reload after 10 rounds of up to a potential 300 damage. nA could just ram the luch and finish the luch off with 8 shells, that could deal a potential 50 damage each shot...

http://wotreplays.co...e/1977517#teams a scouting match i had

http://wotreplays.co...e/1975306#teams in the right mm

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as a luchs player, I can tell you right now that ramming the luchs is the worst thing you could do. Collisions at high speed will lower your hp enough that a luchs can clip you, and at that range, he ain't gonna miss.

Tazilon #62 Posted 29 September 2015 - 02:41 AM

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View Postwho_dares_wins, on 28 September 2015 - 05:23 PM, said:

 

as a luchs player, I can tell you right now that ramming the luchs is the worst thing you could do. Collisions at high speed will lower your hp enough that a luchs can clip you, and at that range, he ain't gonna miss.

 

As a Pz38nA player who has killed more Luchs in his 38nA than any other tank, I assure you if the Luchs is reloading, ramming and shooting him is the quickest way to take him out.

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View PostTazilon, on 29 September 2015 - 02:41 AM, said:

 

As a Pz38nA player who has killed more Luchs in his 38nA than any other tank, I assure you if the Luchs is reloading, ramming and shooting him is the quickest way to take him out.

 

I meant if he is loaded, if he's reloading, then ramming is the fastest way to kill him.

Bad_Mad_Rad #64 Posted 24 November 2015 - 02:23 PM

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And now u have only 30mm at front

tumppi776 #65 Posted 10 May 2016 - 05:36 AM

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Contender for best Tier 4 scout.

 

Just put 4 girls in it. 21 games 90% wins 4500 WN8

 

use the 47mm gun with 25% GOLD ammo!



Prussian12 #66 Posted 10 May 2016 - 03:16 PM

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Just load APCR in this tank + a competent player and appropriate equipments, one of the best tier 4 scouts in the game.

LVL_FACTORY #67 Posted 12 August 2016 - 11:05 AM

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I dunno it was probably the best German tank i ever played, maybe i just got lucky

tumppi776 #68 Posted 08 November 2016 - 01:16 PM

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So useless :-) and without exaggerating - i get an Ace about every 5 games. some streaks every game.

 

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Furcifer #69 Posted 25 January 2017 - 12:28 PM

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This tank is amazing sneaky little bastard and absolute deadly with 4.7 cm gun. I had plenty of great games in it. Here is one in tier 7 battle with the highest dmg from both teams and 2.4k spot.

Spoiler

replay on YouTube

 

More nice replays with this tank available here, if you are interested.

 

 


Edited by Furcifer, 25 January 2017 - 12:28 PM.


TheR3dBaron #70 Posted 25 January 2017 - 02:21 PM

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View Posttumppi776, on 08 November 2016 - 01:16 PM, said:

So useless :-) and without exaggerating - i get an Ace about every 5 games. some streaks every game.

 

http://wotreplays.com/site/3077531

 

It's a shame this thing doesn't get marks because it would have been my first 3 mark tank :)

puffbodie #71 Posted 29 January 2017 - 07:53 AM

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Meh not obsolete at all. Still rocks as a passive scout or stealth dpm dealer.

 

Edit: And after changes to scouts with MM going from +/- 3 to +/- 2 it will be total beast with more tier 4 battles, not meeting tier 7 anymore and such.

 

Edit 2: And if they will remove 5cm for whatever reason then even better with planned accuracy changes. 4,7cm will be so way better.


Edited by puffbodie, 29 January 2017 - 08:17 AM.


Furcifer #72 Posted 02 February 2017 - 11:44 AM

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View Postpuffbodie, on 29 January 2017 - 07:53 AM, said:

Edit: And after changes to scouts with MM going from +/- 3 to +/- 2 it will be total beast with more tier 4 battles, not meeting tier 7 anymore and such.

 

Yeah, screw all that mm changes. It was enjoyable +4, now it is +3 and going to be pathetic +2. Where will be the challenge? Where wiil be the fun?

 

Anyway, Pz. 38t nA is obviously great passive scout (have 460m viewrange with my setup) and on some maps is able to manage total annihilation of the enemy team. Here is one delicious Malinovka on tier 6 with 10 spotted and 4.5k asist dmg.

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BTW: You get almost nothing in WN8 for such battle. 

 


Edited by Furcifer, 02 February 2017 - 11:52 AM.


puffbodie #73 Posted 05 February 2017 - 08:56 AM

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One hostile idea is now that with +/-2 MM and if guns stay same then Japanese Ke-Ho will become top tier 4 light as it is already (when removing current "real" scouts). Then crew from Pz. can continue up in tree somewhere (except radio man :D).

Tazilon #74 Posted 23 February 2017 - 01:25 AM

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View PostFurcifer, on 02 February 2017 - 10:44 AM, said:

 

Yeah, screw all that mm changes. It was enjoyable +4, now it is +3 and going to be pathetic +2. Where will be the challenge? Where wiil be the fun?

 

Anyway, Pz. 38t nA is obviously great passive scout (have 460m viewrange with my setup) and on some maps is able to manage total annihilation of the enemy team. Here is one delicious Malinovka on tier 6 with 10 spotted and 4.5k asist dmg.

Spoiler

Replay

 

BTW: You get almost nothing in WN8 for such battle. 

 

 

Who cares about wn8?  Seriously, it is a complete of a metric.

 



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View Posttumppi776, on 10 May 2016 - 04:36 AM, said:

Contender for best Tier 4 scout.

 

Just put 4 girls in it. 21 games 90% wins 4500 WN8

 

use the 47mm gun with 25% GOLD ammo!

 

Why use the 47mm gun?

Ranger772 #76 Posted 26 March 2017 - 10:55 PM

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Pz 38 na has the best combined view range and camo values of any light tank. I also ace this tank frequently, with a 100% crew but without full skills/perks. 3,000 assisted damage is not unusual.

 



Pete_SB #77 Posted 15 April 2017 - 06:30 AM

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Both the NA and the Luchs are a couple of my most loved tanks, slightly different playstyles, but both giants of the scouting world at their tier.

Furcifer #78 Posted 27 April 2017 - 05:52 PM

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Unfortunately, standard +2 mm kills all the fun playing this amazing vehicle. Now it is just OP pedofarmer...

Sending it to retirement with honors.

 


Edited by Furcifer, 27 April 2017 - 05:52 PM.


SuperDuperOtter #79 Posted 10 July 2017 - 02:23 PM

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View Post4Romm, on 22 March 2017 - 08:27 AM, said:

 

Why use the 47mm gun?

 

I'd like to ask the same question.

 

I can see the pros of using the 4.7cm over the 5cm :

Better accuracy

Better aim time

Lower weitgh (which improves the power/weigth ratio by a small amount)

 

There are cons :

Lower penetration (most significantly with premium ammo)

Lower shell velocity

Lower capabilities at applying damages (DPM, Alpha, amount of potencial damage)

 

Is the 4.7 cm gun handling really that much better ?


Edited by Kharlos76, 10 July 2017 - 02:24 PM.


Ranger772 #80 Posted 15 October 2017 - 06:17 PM

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You have got to be kidding. The Pz 38t n.A. is a keeper. Best view range, best camo value of any tank in its tier and it is fast. Here's an example (and I have lots of aces in this tank):

http://wotreplays.eu...z_kpfw_38_t_n_a

 

This was an unusual match, since my damage > my assisted damage. In my daily double match last night, I had 1K+ assisted damage in the first two minutes of the match, thanks to good teammates.
 


Edited by Ranger772, 15 October 2017 - 06:19 PM.





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