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Search_Warrant #21 Posted 01 September 2014 - 08:59 PM

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They can tell what it is after you turn them to dust. shouting at you for "reload hacks" as you run away reloading for the next poor sucker.

Eila_Juutilainen #22 Posted 01 September 2014 - 09:50 PM

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 01 September 2014 - 09:59 PM, said:

They can tell what it is after you turn them to dust. shouting at you for "reload hacks" as you run away reloading for the next poor sucker.

 

And those tears alone will make it worth to use the autoloader with 2s between shots. 10 shells is enough to kill a tier 8 heavy from full health.

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View PostEila_Juutilainen, on 01 September 2014 - 09:50 PM, said:

 

And those tears alone will make it worth to use the autoloader with 2s between shots. 10 shells is enough to kill a tier 8 heavy from full health.

 

Any idea what the gun is exactly on the autoloader? 175pen? 120 damage or something? is it the T71 gun?

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 01 September 2014 - 10:10 PM, said:

 

Any idea what the gun is exactly on the autoloader? 175pen? 120 damage or something? is it the T71 gun?

 

Elite gun is same as the T71's. My guess from the leaks, info and other stuff is that the autoloader gun is the game as the elite one, but you trade the DPM for the burst.

 

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 Elite gun: 76mm M32 (Late)
Penetration: 175
Gold penetration: 210
Damage: 150
Rate of fire: 17,9
Engine power: 550hp
Maximum speed: 72,4 km/h
Maximum reverse speed: 24 km/h
Power-to-weight: 23,41 hp/t

 

 



Search_Warrant #25 Posted 02 September 2014 - 03:04 AM

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Wait so ur telling me..this tank does more damage as burst than a AMX 13 90 at teir 7...dealing 1500 damage? seriously? i guess the plus to 13 90 is the shells are less but you burst for more damage at 240 and 6 shells. im tellin you now.. 175pen is more than enough pen for me, and im guessing apcr standard? if so. Goodbye T71, welcome to your new home called Walker Bulldog! good thing i got T71 2 skills on it and i got a whole T29 3 skill crew to retrain on my shiny new T49 too! win win.

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Well I think it'll be impossible to use it as one burst since that'd take far too long. Think it'll be more like pop out, keep shooting until people start pointing guns at you... then hide and wait to repeat until your clip is empty.

 

Honestly I'm not sure if that 0.7s less between shots will be worth the 30s clip reload. T71s clip might actually be better because it's smaller, oddly, better for peek-a-booing.



Eila_Juutilainen #27 Posted 02 September 2014 - 09:03 AM

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Yeah, at 18s unloading time it's hard to call it burst anymore. Still, this is one gun where you don't have to fear not having enough ammo in the clip.

 

Also, IIRC the Walker Bulldog will have way better gun depression than the T71.



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Gun stats: http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/09/02/9-3-light-tank-writeup/

 

Really shame that T49 doesn't have normal 90mm gun like RU251. I guess I will stick with M41.

 

The most funny thing is that new lights have less than 400m view range, while WT E100 has 420m.



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That's pretty lame news, I thought one of the earliest leaks was a screenshot of three gun choices, one of which being the 90mm M41 from the patton... :( And you can't get 400m view range without the Sheridan turret.

 

Wasn't really looking forward to the derp as it's such a break in playstyle from the Chaffee. Disappointed too.

 

But I did notice T37 gets the option of having a 150mm pen gun (at the expense of dpm)? :O



Eila_Juutilainen #30 Posted 02 September 2014 - 02:58 PM

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View Post3Form, on 02 September 2014 - 03:02 PM, said:

That's pretty lame news, I thought one of the earliest leaks was a screenshot of three gun choices, one of which being the 90mm M41 from the patton... :(

 

It did: http://ftr.wot-news....014/07/arm1.jpg

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Looks like the RU will be the spiritual successor to the DPM Chaffee then. Well, maybe a change of pace with the 152mm will do us good. Could be an interesting gun to master.

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View PostEila_Juutilainen, on 02 September 2014 - 02:58 PM, said:

 

Interesting, didn't see that. I guess we have to wait until test server starts.

 

View Post3Form, on 02 September 2014 - 03:14 PM, said:

Looks like the RU will be the spiritual successor to the DPM Chaffee then. Well, maybe a change of pace with the 152mm will do us good. Could be an interesting gun to master.

 

 M41 suits pretty well with it's spamming 76mm gun. It should be possible to get under 3s on reload time just like on Chaffee.



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View PostcManiek, on 02 September 2014 - 03:53 PM, said:

M41 suits pretty well with it's spamming 76mm gun. It should be possible to get under 3s on reload time just like on Chaffee.

 

Certainly, just I was always hoping for a tier 8 Chaffee! In that sneak peak that FTR linked that was posted on the Asia forums, for the T49 it says "classic light tank, or a crazy bomber with a 152mm barrel? It is up for you to decide!". I read this as it would have a viable alternative to the 152 to make it a classic light. I reckon I'll just naively hold out hope :)

 

 

Suppose it'll take some experimenting to see where the Chaffee crew eventually ends up.



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For The Record (T49)

 Gun: 90mm T123E3
PEN: 102/250/45 (credit round is HESH)
DAM: 320/240/320
Reload time: 6,3s
Aim time: 2,3s
Accuracy: 0,38
Depression: -10/+20 (rear -7,8/+20)

 

Stock gun of the T49 has some quirks of its own. Credit round HESH? So, HESH, HEAT and HE rolled into 1 gun? Damn.... That's a lot of high explosive rounds packed into 1 tank :blink:

 

For The Record (M41 Walker Bulldog)

 

Gun: 76mm T91E5
Autoloaded, 10 rounds in clip
PEN: 175/210/38
DAM: 150/150/185
Reload time: 32s
Clip ROF: 30 RPM
Aim time: 2,1s
Accuracy: 0,4
Depression: -8/+20 (sides -6/+20)

Gun: 76mm M32 Late
PEN: 175/210/38
DAM: 150/150/185
Reload time: 3,5s
Aim time: 1,9s
Accuracy: 0,38
Depression: -10/+20 (sides -6/+20)

 

Hmm... Still the autoloader is tempting. We'll see how it plays out. Can deny the burst potential, but then again with all things mounted you get the elite gun to under 3 sec reload? :bush:



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With 102mm pen on the HESH ammo of the T123E3 gun, it won't be entirely useless. Serviceable enough to grind out modules, at least. And hey, HEAT ammo exists :glasses:

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Hmmmmm. HESH is nice..that damage is pretty sick for a Light Tank too. 320 alpha and only 6.3sec reload? holy smokes. but that 102mm pen is a major letdown it wont even pen side armor of mediums effectively its so low....spaced armor will ruin it too. i wouldent mind if it had like 150+pen because with the type of shell it is that wouldent be OP at all because it can still meet tier 10 tanks.

 

WZ-132 top gun has 189pen 250 alpha with nice soft stats but the reload on that gun sucks hard. 8.15 sec reload with 100% crew is a bit too long IMO. id prefer 320 HESH and 102pen. thats all you need when you at the rear of an enemy plus with that alpha you can track people much easier than other LT's. cant bounce with HESH ether dont think? kinda like HE?



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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 02 September 2014 - 09:02 PM, said:

cant bounce with HESH ether dont think? kinda like HE?

 

In it's in-game implementation, HESH is literally exactly the same as HE. It just has higher pen values.

 

The 102mm is a bit on the low side, though. Guesstimating from the values on Centurion 7/FV4202 and FV215b(183) guns I had figured these shells would have had 120-ish pen, but I guess WG balancing department had other ideas.


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Psycho_Baby_ #38 Posted 03 September 2014 - 12:53 AM

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Besides spgs and open german TDs, you are forced to grind the 152mm with 90 mm gold HEAT. Swell.

Frankly, at that level even 105mm HE is a less than a gnat sting for most tanks.


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Seems the 102mm pen HESH will only be any good vs other LT's, mediums are immune to that sort of pen and side shots are pretty useless if you hit the tracks heck you cant even pen the side of a kv-220 with that sort of pen. a tier 5 heavy. hmmm... im not looking forward to using that gun as much as i like the alpha..heck id rather have APCR or AP instead of HESH.

 

Kwagga you mean 152mm gun with HE/HEAT/HE? HE and HEAT are credits while the other HE is a higher splash radius gold ammo.

 

Gun: 152mm Gun-Launcher XM81 (Conventional)
Ammo carried: 22
PEN: 76/152/85 (credit round is HE and HEAT, second HE is gold)
DAM: 910/700/910 (credit HE has 3,66m splash, gold has 5,11m splash)
Reload time: 23s
Aim time: 3,6s
Accuracy: 0,6
Depression: -10/+20 (rear -6/+20)


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Actually 100mm pen HESH shells on the FV4202 are still useful, against Batchats or whenever you get to the sides/rear of anything that's not German.

 

Still I'd much rather have that 90mm M41 that's sat on the Patton doing nothing :)






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