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Lil_Nas_X #1 Posted 07 September 2014 - 09:42 PM

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Thought I'd bring you something to discuss about, hopefully in a funny way :) Everything said in this "review" is based on statistical facts and my own experience playing these vehicles. It's just a tip for people who want these tanks.

 

9.3 brings us a new American light tank line. Everyone shouts about the T49 being OP and all. Really, the T49 isn't conceirning me. There are other new tanks that do. So here is:

10 REASONS WHY THE M41 WALKER BULLDOG IS BETTER THAN THE T49

 

For reference: here's an M41: 

 

And here's a T49:

 

Let's kick off:

1: It's real.

Yes, I know it doesn't affect gameplay but some people who came to World of Tanks for historical reasons might find that a good reason. They could bother with the M551 Sheridan, but no, the T49 will do. M41 Walker Bulldog was produced and used. 

 

2: It's better looking.

This also doesn't affect gameplay, but really, would you prefer driving a tank where somebody sat on with a drain pipe sticking out of the turret over a tank which looks as American as possible and has a more standard type of gun?

 

3: That gun, seriously?

Drain pipe, as I refer to it. 152 mm gun is fun on a KV-2 at tier 6 but I'd not prefer shooting Tier 10 heavies' butts with 76 mm of penetration. Although it splashes, you'd do minimal damage on heavy armor. 

Whereas 175 mm of pen with APCR shells as standard seems OK for me. It gives you the possibility to actually penetrate tier 10 heavies. And ofcourse it's not a howitzer, it's a 76 mm gun, making shell flight speed, accuracy and aiming time a bit normal. Not that you'll ever find a T49 sniping.

 

4. It's faster

But they both have a 72,4 km/h top speed? Yes, they have. But the T49 reaches it harder. Don't know why, since the M41 is heavier, but in practice I've overtook some T49's.

 

5. The M41 get's a gun we can work with.

I just said that, but let's go to that in full detail.

T49: 19,9 sec reload. 910 damage if you penetrate, horrible accuracy, aiming time, shell flight distance.

M41: autoloader, 10 shells, 175 pen, 150 damage making a potential burst damage of 1500, which is enough to 1 clip tier 8 heavies, normal accuracy, aiming time, shell flight distance (a faster one, since it has APCR as standard). 

 

6. More...

The M41 gets 4 guns. 1 not so good  stock one, 10k exp for the next one, which comes close to the last one.

3rd gun is an autoloader. The one we just discussed. 

Don't like autoloaders? You have the fourth gun, which has the same stats as the autoloader, but then as normal gun. With a 3,5 sec reload! Choice for everyone.

T49 only gets 2 guns, the 152 mm gun, which is, not so good, and the stock one. I'd say people would use the stock one, but it's also not very good.

Well, a rate of fire of 9,52 with 320 damage makes up for pretty good DPM but 102 mm of penetration. Take out a tier 4 tank and it has more than that. So this is also a gun for lightly armored targets, but very very lightly. And no splash damage. 

 

7. ...for less

The M41 is tier 7. The T49 is tier 8. Translation, you'll have an M41 sooner, and it'll cost less XP.

 

8. But the scouting capacities?

As we just said, the speed of the M41 is slightly better in practice, though on paper the T49 seems to be faster.

View range/radio range? Exactly the same. No reason to pick the T49 because it's a better scout.

 

9. Where does this line end?

M41 -> T49 -> T54E1 -> T57 Heavy

OK, you might want to get a T49 to continue on with this line. But then again, I've played the M7, T21, T71 and T69 as well, and they are pretty good. You might want to consider going these ways.

 

10. Actually everything is cheaper.

We've just considered this, but with a closer look everything on the M41 is cheaper. Tracks are cheaper, turret is cheaper, you don't even need the second turret for the best gun on the M41, on the T49 you do. Radio and engine are the same.4

 

So there you go. My T49 and M41 comparision. Hope it inspires you.


Edited by Loekie5500, 07 September 2014 - 09:45 PM.


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Was waiting for a review like this one. +1 :)

Search_Warrant #3 Posted 07 September 2014 - 10:14 PM

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Just for the record. M41 none autoloader gun has slightly better stats than the autoloader. aimtime and accuracy wise. most people will not use the stock T49 gun because its useless, im talking 1000% useless. the top gun is the only option you have and its still a bad option. pick your poison more like.

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Can't agree more!
T49 MIGHT be more fun  somehow and more troll, but it's totally unrelaiable. You get massive rolls now on the test server, because the tanks you are shooting at are mostly the same light tanks you are trying, try to do the same on the standard server, against a tier 10 team... Not going to work.

I think I will still get the T49 for the lols, but the Walker Bulldog will be replacing my T71 as the tier 7 light tank of choice and will stay in my garage.



tankzman #5 Posted 08 September 2014 - 12:44 AM

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M41 Walker Bulldog: 17,14 rounds/min (non-automatic) & 150 damage = 2571 dpm
T49 Light Tank: 9,52 rounds/min (non-derp) & 320 damage = 3046 dpm

In fight vs light tanks... me guess T49 is better, if you pen all that is.

 



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The stock gun is lethal to lightly armored targets. but why have a gun meant for light armor when you can have a 1k damage derp gun for the same effect and less exposure?  Derp or go home. you have no other option.

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They should add a normal 90mm also, think that was the intention at start.

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Should be a second gun like the first for a option of playstyle. higher pen hesh shells same damage as first gun same stats for all i care. 170pen. make it happen.

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http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/07/26/straight-outta-supertest-t49-light-tank/


 

 



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That gun is not in game. they removed it. it only has 2 gun options.

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View Posttankzman, on 08 September 2014 - 12:44 AM, said:

M41 Walker Bulldog: 17,14 rounds/min (non-automatic) & 150 damage = 2571 dpm
T49 Light Tank: 9,52 rounds/min (non-derp) & 320 damage = 3046 dpm

In fight vs light tanks... me guess T49 is better, if you pen all that is.

 

You can pen light tanks, But there are only a few per team. Try pen heavies with both of the T49's guns. Or even mediums frontally. You just can't do it with the T49.



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View PostLoekie5500, on 08 September 2014 - 06:33 AM, said:

You can pen light tanks, But there are only a few per team. Try pen heavies with both of the T49's guns. Or even mediums frontally. You just can't do it with the T49.

 

Someone who understands, dammit! its nasty vs light armor but thats few and far between. you wont get a bunch of batchats top tier running around or enemy heavys going backwards with there asses facing you. its not as good as people make it out to be. i saw a video of someone using the derp as to wondering what others thought of it.. he hit a JP-E100 in the side and hit him for 7 damage. YES A WHOLE 7 FREAKIN DAMAGE.

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1: It's real.

T49 was also real, or are you one of those types who think that only mass-produced tanks count as real?

 

2: It's better looking.

Personal preference, I like the XM551 turret way more.

 

3: That gun, seriously?

Just like the KV-2 at tier 6, you will need to know where you're shooting enemies for maximum explosion effext. Also, this thing is much more manouvrable than a KV-2, and has considerable gun depression. And because there are tier 10 heavies, you get a cheap HEAT shell with 150 penetration... not as good as the gold HEAT of SU-152 I'll admit, but these are basically free in comparison.

Also, where the Walker Bulldog's guns will likely do nothing against most tier 9 and 10 heavies from the front, the 152mm derp can still be effective due to the high arc and massive explosion.

 

4. It's faster

T49 is sadly cursed with a terrain resistance considerably higher than M41. A definite flaw, I'll agree.

 

5. The M41 get's a gun we can work with.

"M41: autoloader, 10 shells, 175 pen, 150 damage making a potential burst damage of 1500, which is enough to 1 clip tier 8 heavies"

At 18s time to unload that clip, you can't really call it burst anymore. That is ample time for people to shoot you back, and if you don't get to unload your clip, you miss/bounce a shot or two, or the enemy simply survives the 'burst', then you get a pretty harsh reload. No, the true top gun of M41, and the one I'll be using mostly, is the non-autoloader version that puts out considerable sustained damage and has better soft stats.

 

6. More...

This was basically points #3 and #5 already, 3 out of 10 arguments, these should be solidified.

 

7. ...for less

Quite true. That said, some people will still prefer tier 8 over 7 for various reasons. Mostly Team Battles, I guess. Or people who, you know, want the derp of the XM551.

 

8. But the scouting capacities?

I doubt that either will make a very good proper scout, since they're big and will have relatively bad camo (compared to other, smaller light tanks).

 

9. Where does this line end?

I have no idea why this is considered a reason to pick M41 over T49. Care to explain?

 

10. Actually everything is cheaper.

This is #7 again. You already used the cheaper argument there. Also, if you want cheap, why not get a T37? It also gets a good regular gun and an autoloader, practically the same as M41, right? [This message brought to you by the Society for Promoting Sarcasm]

 

So... 3 of your reasons are repetition, 1 is mind-boggling, and 2 are aesthetics. The remaining 4 mostly boil down to personal preference, as it's pretty much conventional gun (w/ or w/o autoloader) vs. derp - which do you like to play, except the one about speed. The faster speed of the M41 Walker Bulldog is a true and viable argument.

 

Also, I'm planning to get and pimp out both :glasses:



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Its kinda like stating "why pick arty over a heavy" they play very differently due to there guns.

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View PostEila_Juutilainen, on 08 September 2014 - 08:36 AM, said:

So... 3 of your reasons are repetition, 1 is mind-boggling, and 2 are aesthetics. The remaining 4 mostly boil down to personal preference, as it's pretty much conventional gun (w/ or w/o autoloader) vs. derp - which do you like to play, except the one about speed. The faster speed of the M41 Walker Bulldog is a true and viable argument.

Wait, read again:

View PostLoekie5500, on 07 September 2014 - 09:42 AM, said:

Everything said in this "review" is based on statistical facts and my own experience playing these vehicles. It's just a tip for people who want these tanks.

OK the statistical facts is not 100% true, I'll admit. The speed and gun is though. And not all of the reasons are entirely correct but 10 reasons is a nice round number.

The only thing I'm trying to do, is help people with things I learned driving these tanks myself. I've spent 2 days driving these 2 tanks, so I thought I'd share what I learned by doing. This is all personal preference, but it is what helped me the most, and what I learned.



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BTW, I searched some info and you're right about the T49 had existed. I thought it was a crazy experimental Sheridan. But it has a 90 mm, I thought they'd really bring a 152 mm light tank to the battlefield...

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View PostLoekie5500, on 08 September 2014 - 02:49 PM, said:

Wait, read again:

OK the statistical facts is not 100% true, I'll admit. The speed and gun is though. And not all of the reasons are entirely correct but 10 reasons is a nice round number.

The only thing I'm trying to do, is help people with things I learned driving these tanks myself. I've spent 2 days driving these 2 tanks, so I thought I'd share what I learned by doing. This is all personal preference, but it is what helped me the most, and what I learned.

 

Your intentions on informing people is good, but it just seemed too one-sided to me. As Search_Warrant said, the two vehicles are completely different. You're likely right in that the M41 Walker Bulldog will be the better performing vehicle of the two tier for tier, but you should still try to be fair on the T49. It is a completely different vehicle and it will cater to a different crowd.

 

Though seriously, you could have easily cut your list down to 5, which is also a nice number, and then it would have been an easier read to boot. People don't like walls of text, it makes the brains hurt :great:

 

 

View PostLoekie5500, on 08 September 2014 - 02:51 PM, said:

I thought they'd really bring a 152 mm light tank to the battlefield...

 

Well, they technically did do just that with the Sheridan. It's missile system was shitty so they ended up shooting mostly conventional ammunitions :glasses:



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View PostEila_Juutilainen, on 08 September 2014 - 02:04 PM, said:

Your intentions on informing people is good, but it just seemed too one-sided to me. As Search_Warrant said, the two vehicles are completely different. You're likely right in that the M41 Walker Bulldog will be the better performing vehicle of the two tier for tier, but you should still try to be fair on the T49. It is a completely different vehicle and it will cater to a different crowd.

No no I'm not saying the T49 is bad or I hate it. It was just the introduction of "look-at-ye-newe-tier-8-lights" and everyone was "ooooh T49 OP as crap etc." oh and we will also introduce the M41 Walker Bulldog, well OK.

Actually the point is I'd make more fuzz about the M41, since the T49 is special, but I think because of the reasons I said that (for me, and if you are like me for you), the M41 will be mine of choice.

 

View PostEila_Juutilainen, on 08 September 2014 - 02:04 PM, said:

Though seriously, you could have easily cut your list down to 5, which is also a nice number, and then it would have been an easier read to boot. People don't like walls of text, it makes the brains hurt :great:

True, true. That's why I don't like reading too often, more info in less text is always better.

 

View PostEila_Juutilainen, on 08 September 2014 - 02:04 PM, said:

 

Well, they technically did do just that with the Sheridan. It's missile system was shitty so they ended up shooting mostly conventional ammunitions :glasses:

Yeah, but I think a missile launch light tank needs to have an alternative normal tank gun. For the heavy work we have artillery...



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View PostLoekie5500, on 08 September 2014 - 10:21 PM, said:

No no I'm not saying the T49 is bad or I hate it. It was just the introduction of "look-at-ye-newe-tier-8-lights" and everyone was "ooooh T49 OP as crap etc." oh and we will also introduce the M41 Walker Bulldog, well OK.

Actually the point is I'd make more fuzz about the M41, since the T49 is special, but I think because of the reasons I said that (for me, and if you are like me for you), the M41 will be mine of choice.

 

Fair enough. You just came across as overly praising the M41 while bashing the T49. Understanding intentions and feelings behind text is hard.

 

 



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Dont praise the M41 so much! it sucks! horrible guns... really slow.. wouldent touch it ever. its worse than amx 40!

 

you think anyone will buy that? i thought it sounded convincing...(hugs M41)






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