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3Form #21 Posted 26 September 2014 - 04:47 PM

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View PostTacPenguin, on 26 September 2014 - 04:27 PM, said:

Wow the T37 is a let down  :sad:

 

looks like a Old style Chaffee but has the acceleration of a Maus the turning ability of a sail boat and the aiming bloom of a KV1s at 50kmh over rough terrain.

 

To get to the Bulldog is going to be a pain.

 

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I have found that when fully upgraded it's not that bad, you have better top speed than old Chaffee but slightly worse acceleration. With the top gun the dispersion seems just as good as the old Chaffee but the base accuracy and pen are a massive improvement. It's an excellent gun.



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Should be a pleasure to grind to the Bulldog. I was going to free xp it but after a couple of games I'll definitely just play through it.

TacPenguin #23 Posted 26 September 2014 - 06:43 PM

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will have to adjust to it.

 

I was sort of hoping for Chaffee performance at T6 but with a lower Pen auto loader.

 

Bit still its not a long grind.

 

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View PostTacPenguin, on 26 September 2014 - 06:43 PM, said:

will have to adjust to it.

 

I was sort of hoping for Chaffee performance at T6 but with a lower Pen auto loader.

 

Bit still its not a long grind.

 

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I'm sure you'll get your head around it :)

 

When you look at the gun stats and compare them to other tier 6 lights. 150mm penetration (and approx 200mm with gold !!!amazing) - compare this to the 59-16 or the peashooter on the MT-25. I think we've got a really good deal :)

 

More pen than a lot of tier 7 mediums.



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View PostTacPenguin, on 26 September 2014 - 05:27 PM, said:

Wow the T37 is a let down  :sad:

 

looks like a Old style Chaffee but has the acceleration of a Maus the turning ability of a sail boat and the aiming bloom of a KV1s at 50kmh over rough terrain.

 

To get to the Bulldog is going to be a pain.

 

TacP

Wow. Got the Chaffee yesterday and lost first four or five games. Then got to grips with it and won the next ten or eleven.

Woke up this morning to see the T37 discounted. Played my first game and OMG!!  Four kills (thought it was five but hey ho) and got about 5 medals. Top scorer on my team.

 

Funny cos before the game I apologised to my team mates as it was my first game in the tank. The chaffer player told me it was my "fu**ing problem ". He was killed early and it all fell into place for me. Including a Hellcat kill. First impressions are its fantastic. I didn't get to play the original Chaffee.


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I have never really found a common ground with the old Chaffee (I called it the Walmart toytank), but the T37 kinda works for me. The better gun (T91) and the higher in-line-speed, better MM are godsent.

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TacPenguin #27 Posted 27 September 2014 - 12:56 PM

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Ok I'm getting used to it. It's not bad at all.

I'm useing the auto loader. Less pen but nice to dump damage into an enemy faster then leg it to reload.

12 battles at 58% win. So just above my average but sample size is very small.

Also useing 100  octane fuel to pep it up. I lost the fire ext.

Modules are binocs, net, vents

Crew 100%. First skill 6 sense, camo, 2 nd skill mentor and repairs at 87%

 

 

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View PostTacPenguin, on 26 September 2014 - 04:27 PM, said:

Wow the T37 is a let down  :sad:

 

looks like a Old style Chaffee but has the acceleration of a Maus the turning ability of a sail boat and the aiming bloom of a KV1s at 50kmh over rough terrain.

 

To get to the Bulldog is going to be a pain.

 

TacP

 

I thought the same at first. I just play it like my Chaffee but a bit more cautious, and it works pretty well.

 

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LMK #29 Posted 27 September 2014 - 03:00 PM

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So, i tried out the "new" Chaffee for the first time at all and after two battles i must say its ok ^ ^

And after two battles i finally realised that i had over 45k XP on that tank, although i never ever tried the Chaffee before.

Anyone got an explanation?



TacPenguin #30 Posted 27 September 2014 - 03:10 PM

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WG credited the research cost difference between the old Chaffee and new chaffee so you can use towards t37.

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LMK #31 Posted 27 September 2014 - 03:15 PM

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Ohh, ok, thx.

If it was announced then i hadnt noticed since i, like already stated, never tried the chaffee and therefor thought it wouldnt go for me 2.



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Now running non auto loader on T37

16 battles 69% win

On a winning streak but now likeing it a lot .

The T91 is the better weapon.  Slightly higher pen for deal damage and a continuous stream of fire with no 20 second wait to re arm.

Might be a keeper like the old Chaffee.

Still have old Chaffee crew so looks like will buy that one when funds are ready.

 

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Edited by TacPenguin, 27 September 2014 - 03:29 PM.


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View PostTacPenguin, on 26 September 2014 - 05:27 PM, said:

Wow the T37 is a let down  :sad:

 

looks like a Old style Chaffee but has the acceleration of a Maus the turning ability of a sail boat and the aiming bloom of a KV1s at 50kmh over rough terrain.

 

To get to the Bulldog is going to be a pain.

 

TacP

 

Well I played probably less than 10 games in random yet I'm half way done with the grind. How?

Simple, go gather the might of Crom and do some tier 6 stronkholds. Each battle that you win and survive give you 2000 exp extra and the autoloader can pen anything frontally. Honestly, I don't have a clue how to play this tank in randoms because I simply learnt to go against basically anything that shows up and reduce it to less than half HP.

 

Deadly and fun to play.



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View PostSchmeksiman, on 27 September 2014 - 09:46 PM, said:

 

Well I played probably less than 10 games in random yet I'm half way done with the grind. How?

Simple, go gather the might of Crom and do some tier 6 stronkholds. Each battle that you win and survive give you 2000 exp extra and the autoloader can pen anything frontally. Honestly, I don't have a clue how to play this tank in randoms because I simply learnt to go against basically anything that shows up and reduce it to less than half HP.

 

Deadly and fun to play.

 

Yeah I bet the autoloader is effective in strongholds. The top gun is great in randoms though, it's just insane when you compare it to what the 59-16 and MT-25 get. After today I'm erring on predicting it gets nerfed, I am performing better in it than I have done in tier 7 lights like the AMX 1375 or WZ-131 or Aufkl!!!

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I have agree. But until nerf hammer hits it I shall enjoy.

 

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My opinion about the M37.

My stats: 61 battles, W/R 67%, avr exp 938 (tank is elited)

 

Its a good tank, but its not the same as the Chaffee. It accelerate very slow and it takes some time to reach it top speed, also its turning speed is terrible. Its like a whale on land. :/ But the worst thing of all is its ammo rack, its get damaged a lot.

But the gun is great verry acc, also on the move just like the Chaffee.

 

Its a good tank, but not a keeper in my opinion. I am now busy with the Bulldog and must say its a big improvment.



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Duplicate post - sorry.


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Duplicate post - sorry.


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Well after yesterdays win rate of about 58% I played about 5 games today and lost them all. It is slower than the new Chaffee (at least with the stock engine) and doesn't handle or accelerate as well. But the gun (I stiil have the stock gun) and hit points are better. But I would say its more effective considering its normally rated still bottom in most games.

I didn't get to play the old Chaffee but if it had the best bits of the new Chaffee and the T37 it must have been one hell of a tank.


Edited by BoutTime, 28 September 2014 - 03:31 PM.


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Played through and elited the T37 on Saturday (couldn't get online before that as away, couldn't get on afterwards as rear end was on a bike saddle all day).

 

I started playing this tank and raged. Hard. Raged enough on clan mumble that clan told me to shut up and then I raged some more. 

It wasn't pretty. 

Problem:

Chaffee is destroyed as a stronghold tank. Good standard tier 5 Scout but I don't like it as much now. I'll keep my ELC. If I want that much poem on a scout,  I'll play my Luchs.

T37 will solve all my problems! It's the Chaffee but on tier 6. Perfect. 

Our it would be....

 

Game after game I played it like the old Chaffee. Game after game I found that it was nothing like the old Chaffee. 

Corners the old Chaffee would fly round can't be traversed at speed any more. Ridge runs were leaving me exposed at the top or when I was turning to go back again I was left a long way from where the Chaffee would be and a good few seconds later because of the huge turning circle. 

 

Acceleration killed me over and over again.

In the Chaffee I often took open positions which you could spot effectively from,  as long as you can get out of there quickly when spotted. Doing this in T37 led to lots of cries of "move it you piece of junk" at least internally. 

The Chaffee peek&poke maneuver is ruined too due to the acceleration, not to mention the longer hull.

 

Lots and lots of rage and failure on my part.

 

Then,  because of the battle continuing long after my early death, I took out the 59-16 for a spin.

 

Landed in a tier 9 game on Ensk. Not the best match-up. Low pen, no armour, low alpha on a city map...

I **** carried that game and the tank did everything I asked it to do. It is nimble and responsive and fast, so on that front better than even the Old Chaffee. 23mm more pen and a little boost to DPM with the stock gun (at least buff to match the ROF of the tier 5 med before it pls, which sees as its worst MM what the 59-16 sees as its best) - not the auloloader as pen is ridiculously low (we have another tier 6 autoloader now,  isn't it clear that 75 pen is just too low? ) - and I would absolutely fall in love with it. 

 

Having broken the cycle of spiralling despair,  I realised that the T37 is not the Chaffee, and that I should stop trying to play it like one.  If it wasn't for playing the Chaffee before hand,  I wouldn't know any better and would really like the tank. 

 

So giving it the benefit of the doubt I began playing it again. And you know what?  It's not terrible. 

Nothing like as good as the Chaffee, but not terrible either. 






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