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Battle of Flers-Courcelette: The Birth of the Tank


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Community #1 Posted 15 September 2014 - 03:35 PM

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It's the anniversary of the tank's world debut - learn about this momentous occasion in our historical spotlight detailing the Battle of Flers-Courcelette.

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gerg2012 #2 Posted 15 September 2014 - 03:56 PM

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A7V the best WWI tank :smile:

CroPanzer #3 Posted 15 September 2014 - 04:05 PM

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Nice article by Challenger!

 

 



CountOfTuscany #4 Posted 15 September 2014 - 06:01 PM

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View Postgerg2012, on 15 September 2014 - 04:56 PM, said:

A7V the best WWI tank :smile:

 

The german WW1 tank arsenal probably included more captured allied tanks than tanks of their own. The german army in WW1 wasn't to keen on using all this new stuff called tank :P

veelckoo #5 Posted 15 September 2014 - 06:50 PM

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Thanks Challenger. Very nice article!

pallie_the_artillerist #6 Posted 16 September 2014 - 10:44 AM

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Is that picture titled 'Tanks in action' a real photograph or just a computermade mockup? It looks extremely fake.

Abusemtex #7 Posted 16 September 2014 - 12:32 PM

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View PostCountOfTuscany, on 15 September 2014 - 07:01 PM, said:

 

The german WW1 tank arsenal probably included more captured allied tanks than tanks of their own. The german army in WW1 wasn't to keen on using all this new stuff called tank :P

 

Neither did the french and british command which resulted in poor material and tactics at the beginning of WW2. A misjudgement paving the way for german Blitzkrieg.

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View Post_pallie_, on 16 September 2014 - 11:44 AM, said:

Is that picture titled 'Tanks in action' a real photograph or just a computermade mockup? It looks extremely fake.

 

It is a CGI.

 

Photographs from that era are a bit rare.



CountOfTuscany #9 Posted 16 September 2014 - 06:32 PM

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View PostAbusemtex, on 16 September 2014 - 01:32 PM, said:

 

Neither did the french and british command which resulted in poor material and tactics at the beginning of WW2. A misjudgement paving the way for german Blitzkrieg.

 

Yep, you're right, took them some time and their initial tank tactics were really experimental. The British ideas of infantry tanks and cavalry tanks also started back then (Mark tanks to create breaks, Whippet tanks to attempt the breakthrough). Funny thing is where in 1918 the Allies used tanks to succesfully attack the Germans, the Germans used their Sturmtruppen (infantry) to succesfully attack the Allies.

The Germans only got really into armoured warfare after WW1 when Guderian and Lutz (Guderians superior) pushed the boundaries for the armoured forces.

 



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Nice little introduction to, err, the introduction of tanks to the battlefield. :smile:

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View PostBrynd, on 22 September 2014 - 11:19 AM, said:

Nice little introduction to, err, the introduction of tanks to the battlefield. :smile:

 

Well, armored vehicles existed and were used centuries before.

The motorised machines of WWI mentioned here where designed to break through enemy lines (barbewires & trenches), protecting the crew (more or less) with some armor and being able to shot the enemy with machineguns.

What we call tank was first developed by the french and it's part of WoT - the FT-17. The concept by Rodolphe Ernst-Metzmaier is still valid today and the origin of virtually every tank in history.



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View PostAbusemtex, on 22 September 2014 - 02:17 PM, said:

 

Well, armored vehicles existed and were used centuries before.

 

Well, I didn't say armored vehicles did I? :smile: The article mentions vehicles referred to as tanks that were introduced to the battlefield in the Battle of Flers-Courcelette, which is what I'm replying to. These guys know more about tank history than I, so it's news to me. Though I am sure if they have more to say in response your reply, they will do it themselves. 



_Buck_Kite_ #13 Posted 03 November 2015 - 08:38 PM

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Flers-Courcellette was 15th of September 1916.... comprising C and D Company's HSMGC.  Challenger, was a member of 3rd Royal Tank Regiment which were the direct descendants of 'C' Company.

 

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Edited by _Buck_Kite_, 03 November 2015 - 09:05 PM.


_Buck_Kite_ #14 Posted 03 November 2015 - 08:57 PM

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View PostAbusemtex, on 22 September 2014 - 01:17 PM, said:

 

Well, armored vehicles existed and were used centuries before.

The motorised machines of WWI mentioned here where designed to break through enemy lines (barbewires & trenches), protecting the crew (more or less) with some armor and being able to shot the enemy with machineguns.

What we call tank was first developed by the french and it's part of WoT - the FT-17. The concept by Rodolphe Ernst-Metzmaier is still valid today and the origin of virtually every tank in history.

 

The FIRST time the FT-17 saw action was 31 May 1918.  I doubt this places it in the History Books as being the first tank, unless of course you you are telling me the French withheld the production for 3 years after the FIRST tank saw service?  

 

Your knowledge of history needs a swift kick up the backside!!!

 

Besides that, the name 'TANK' is purely British.  I comes from the need for secrecy surrounding this vehicle , that was originally called HMLS.... His Majesty's Land Ship.  As a brilliant historian the use of the word 'Ship'  in the title will not pass you by?


Edited by _Buck_Kite_, 03 November 2015 - 09:12 PM.


_Buck_Kite_ #15 Posted 03 November 2015 - 09:14 PM

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