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Is the M41 Walker Bulldog another pure example of Power Creep?


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Schmeksiman #21 Posted 15 September 2014 - 07:40 PM

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Tried it as well and honestly, I prefer the T71.

It is smaller, a bit faster while having the same gun and far better camo rating.

 

10 shell autoloader might sound OP but how often do you get to fire all of them? If I get off 4 of my shells in my T71 it was a good exchange, a large magazine might actually hurt you if you're reloading frequently because you suddenly reload around 12 seconds slower...



IH8MEDS #22 Posted 15 September 2014 - 07:45 PM

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the clip will only come in handy when you meet solitary targets that you can outmanoeuvre and kill within one clip. and this will happen quite rarely i reckon.

 

This all sounds good & true.. until you remember that on quite a few maps the team that gets the central position usually wins. Like the hill on Mines or Karelia, first 2 examples that usually pop in my mind.

 

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10 shell autoloader might sound OP but how often do you get to fire all of them?

 

Considering the quality of the average pubbie, that will completely allow an AMX 13 90 to chew up your T95 while they just look the other way (yep, happened to me, not just once), I'd say you'll have plenty of those opportunities.



M1tchy #23 Posted 15 September 2014 - 07:51 PM

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As I found with the autoloader, get ammo racked and you have to hide away for 60 seconds. I would rather have the single shot gun and with crew skills  you could get under 3 second reload at a guess. So still able to fight when ammo racked

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View PostVonnis, on 15 September 2014 - 06:36 PM, said:

This is how WG deals with the fact many people don't consider light tanks to be viable any more. Rather than changing maps to allow light tanks to actually scout for their team, they just put bigger guns on the light tanks. It's kind of endearing to see just how misguided they are.

 

nope, its about making people to want that tanks and make them to spend (and buy) more free xp. its all about being greedy...

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View Postvargata, on 15 September 2014 - 07:54 PM, said:

 

nope, its about making people to want that tanks and make them to spend (and buy) more free xp. its all about being greedy...

 

Why would anybody spend free XP to get a tank which he then owns without a crew. I will never get it.

Do players have a lot of potent crews just lying around, or do y just like driving around with no crew skills on Tier X tanks.

I am currently training a crew for Tier 7 rus LT, since my former t-50-2 crew sits on a Tier X MT and will stay there. I am thinking of having 1, or 2 skills done before bying this tank, yet people cannot wait and unlock tanks with free XP? Y? Just wait half a month and you reached Tier 7 just with driving dailies.



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View PostIH8MEDS, on 15 September 2014 - 06:31 PM, said:

Now, really, with THAT firepower and THAT mobility... doesn't this thing make Tier 7 MTs obsolete? I know it gets much harsher MM, but it still meets Tier 7 tanks, right?

We all know that Tier 7 MTs suffer anyhow in the form of MM weight, since in Tier 9 games you have very little opportunities to actually do something, but this thing is, as I said, much faster AND has greater firepower than any of your Tier 7 MTs.

 

Yep, that's basically what I said a week ago at this forum, when the first stats and youtube example of gameplay in it appeared. And I included the VIII mediums in that comparison as well. Mediums at tier VIII are vastly better than their tier VII counterparts - but they also start to handle more like heavies and some have almost the same size as their nations heavies at the same tier.

 

These new lights however are very fast, very agile, very good viewranges, they're comparable small targets and they retain their camo rating on the move - mediums don't.

 

It doesn't take a genius to tell that a lot of the good/very good players of this game, will drive these wasps and make medium/heavy drivers look completely silly.



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View PostGeneral_Jack_D_Ripper, on 15 September 2014 - 08:07 PM, said:

 

Why would anybody spend free XP to get a tank which he then owns without a crew. I will never get it.

Do players have a lot of potent crews just lying around, or do y just like driving around with no crew skills on Tier X tanks.

I am currently training a crew for Tier 7 rus LT, since my former t-50-2 crew sits on a Tier X MT and will stay there. I am thinking of having 1, or 2 skills done before bying this tank, yet people cannot wait and unlock tanks with free XP? Y? Just wait half a month and you reached Tier 7 just with driving dailies.

 

they do, and you will see them appear right the same day the patch will be released...

 

just as an example from an other topic...

View PostDan_Abnormal, on 15 September 2014 - 06:51 PM, said:

Oddly enough I have two experience Chaffee crews, I don't intend to keep the Chaffee so I have two 3 skill American LT crews, a few 3 skill Ger LT crews and a 3 skill RU med crew I will retrain for gold for LT and probably free XP to the T-54 LW.


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-if you want to compare a lt with a mt do t7 lt vs t8 mt, since both have the same mm.

-amx 13 75 problem is bad balance after being uptiered.

-t7 mt being hunted by a t7 lt? how terrible, maybe as a t5 ht being frontally pierced by a t6 mt.



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I'll be moving my Chaffee crew as well... that is, if I won't pick another experienced crew from another line and stick in my WB when I get it, for whatever reason.

 

There's no point in keeping the Chaffee after 9.3 imo - especially considering how hard its gun is getting nerfed. No point in driving it anymore with these new options on your plate.



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View Postvargata, on 15 September 2014 - 08:12 PM, said:

 

they do, and you will see them appear right the same day the patch will be released...

 

just as an example from an other topic...

 

wow, that's sick. :justwait:

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buehehe fail moderating



Enforcer1975 #32 Posted 16 September 2014 - 01:00 PM

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Autoloader doesn't always means OP, first you have to get close enough to reliably hit the tank with all your shells and hope none of them bounces ( you know...RNG ), second you have to survive long enough to get all your shells out, third you have to get away to reload, fourth you have to survive the reload time...

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View PostPandabird, on 16 September 2014 - 12:22 PM, said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

buehehe fail moderating

 

Indeed.



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So LOL!

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From what I have seen on youtube the auto gun is a little op. But, as we all know, the test server is not a good place to make a judgment call about a tank. We will all have to see what happens on the live servers. Personally I think the thing will get nerfed one or two patches from now and probably before I have managed to grind up to it. But even if I get to the Walker before it gets any possible re-balancing I would not be using the auto as I think the its sister gun would be more my thing.

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Every single LT is better then all same tier tanks. So what is your point OP? No point? Though so.

IH8MEDS #37 Posted 16 September 2014 - 05:53 PM

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Well, just saw the numbers on the LTTB via Jingles' video and...

 

Holy Crap! This is better armored, better gunned AND 5x as agile as the T-43.

Well, maybe I should compare it to the KV-13 since that one also has crap gun depression, but...

 

Sweet mother of god, Tier 7 MTs are so screwed once 9.3 comes out

 

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Every single LT is better then all same tier tanks

 

That statement is so... unjustified I can't see any reason to take it seriously



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View PostIH8MEDS, on 16 September 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

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Every single LT is better then all same tier tanks

 

That statement is so... stupid I can't see any reason to take it seriously

fixed ya



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Can we please have a moderator move this to the CORRECT section of the forum?

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View PostEokokok, on 16 September 2014 - 04:51 PM, said:

Every single Scout-LT is better then all same tier tanks. So what is your point OP? No point? Though so.

 

Fixed.




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