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FarseerEldrad #1 Posted 22 September 2014 - 12:40 PM

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So at risk of sounding racist and evil etc etc...im curious , i see many tanks that have eastern European flags on them , Like Poland , Latvia and Czechoslovakia, but no where near the same amount for western Europe countries , Such has Germany , France and UK.

Is this because their are more Eastern European players , or is their a more nationalistic pride within the East, im curious to hear from all sides.

Myself im British , however i dont have Brit flags on my tanks , mainly cause id rather have the English flag , but that's another thread.



NiemandXL #2 Posted 22 September 2014 - 12:43 PM

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Some people just don't feel the need to mark their territory.

 



spyoFr #3 Posted 22 September 2014 - 12:44 PM

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Hi,

 

I prefer to keep my gold for other stuff, so useless to put my country flag on my tank ...

 

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Path64 #4 Posted 22 September 2014 - 12:44 PM

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As an american I tend to plaster everything I have with the stars and stripes, just ask my cat.

johncl #5 Posted 22 September 2014 - 12:44 PM

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mainly cause id rather have the English flag , but that's another thread.

 

No george cross is just wrong ,



Lemacque #6 Posted 22 September 2014 - 12:44 PM

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I'm English, but I only have a union jack on my TOG. Never really considered flags on other vehicles because of the cost

Lemacque #7 Posted 22 September 2014 - 12:45 PM

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View Postjohncl, on 22 September 2014 - 12:44 PM, said:

mainly cause id rather have the English flag , but that's another thread.

 

No george cross is just wrong ,

How, pray tell?



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View PostFarseerEldrad, on 22 September 2014 - 01:40 PM, said:

So at risk of sounding racist and evil etc etc...im curious , i see many tanks that have eastern European flags on them , Like Poland , Latvia and Czechoslovakia, but no where near the same amount for western Europe countries , Such has Germany , France and UK.

Is this because their are more Eastern European players , or is their a more nationalistic pride within the East, im curious to hear from all sides.

Myself im British , however i dont have Brit flags on my tanks , mainly cause id rather have the English flag , but that's another thread.

 

I suggest you dust off that history book of yours and give it a quick read.

 

I'd say national pride, and nothing wrong with that. Personally I don't have a croatian flag on any of my tanks mainly because I don't want for every single person that can speak the same language as I do to spam the chat either asking what my tank is like or raging at me.

I prefer they consider me as some other nationality and then be surprised when they figure out I can respond to their anger.


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I think nationality is something for the very young lately (apart from the very old WW2 age people) because in reality nationality is just another line on a map that doesn't actually mean anything and usually is just used as a tool to keep people pigeon holed into certain segments of society or class structure.


 

Although I am English by birth is doesn't really mean anything to me as I'm happy enough living wherever I find myself be that France, Canada or Switzerland. People no matter where they are from all complain about the same things or are happy about the same things just in a different language. Nationality is like religion and is used to keep people in check or obeying a certain line of laws and customs.

 

 

Nationality or the presumption of it is just used to make assumptions about you before you have even opened your mouth.


Edited by signal11th, 22 September 2014 - 12:53 PM.


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View PostSchmeksiman, on 22 September 2014 - 01:45 PM, said:

 

I suggest you dust off that history book of yours and give it a quick read.

 

He would better get another cause his current one look to be pre-1993

BelizariusCZ #11 Posted 22 September 2014 - 12:54 PM

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View PostFarseerEldrad, on 22 September 2014 - 12:40 PM, said:

Myself im British

 

View PostLemacque, on 22 September 2014 - 12:44 PM, said:

I'm English

 

  Feels like I'm opening a can of worms here, but why some people say "I'm british" instead of "I'm scottish", "I'm northern irish", "I'm english"?

 

 

 



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It's because in this corner of Europe you have to be Proud (yes, capital P) of where you come from, because in some of these countries if you are not Proud (and if possible loud) about it, your patriotism gets questioned.

I think it's a petty and stupid thing to be proud of, as you don't exactly choose where you are dropped, but you know, it's like one's genitals: It's perfectly okay to have one and be proud of, and as long as they don't try to shove it down my throat, we don't have a problem.

 

PS: Also remember that to the east of the iron curtain, nationalism and nationalistic feelings were repressed during the socialist years, so now they are back in full force.



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View PostLemacque, on 22 September 2014 - 12:44 PM, said:

I'm English, but I only have a union jack on my TOG. Never really considered flags on other vehicles because of the cost

 

Sorry to be a pain but its the Union Flag. This isn't World of Warships just yet :bush:

 

Also to say that i've noticed the same thing although i have gone even further to notice that the 'Eastern European' players seem to put their country codes in their usernames (the amount of names I come across with PL and CZ in the name). The thing i think i find is that A the 'Eastern' block seem to like to like announcing their nationalities a lot more anyhow and that WG.Net seem to like making a lot more eastern block inscriptions and emblems, so its likely that people just cant be bothered to have the single flag on every single tank.

 

Personally i have the flag on as many tanks as i can but thats just me being a bit patriotic there.



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View PostBelizariusCZ, on 22 September 2014 - 12:54 PM, said:

 

 

It's entirely just random for me, sometimes I say I'm from the U.K sometimes I say I'm from England, depends who I'm talking to and in what context.

Lemacque #15 Posted 22 September 2014 - 12:58 PM

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View PostBelizariusCZ, on 22 September 2014 - 12:54 PM, said:

 

Because I was born in England? Because England is part of Great Britain? Dunno, I guess it depends on how patriotic you are about your home nation. GB is a fairly unique situation, can't off hand think of any other such entities. (Anyone?)



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Camo paint = 5% bonus to camoflage = value for money

 

Flags and inscriptions that only you can see unless the other tank is right up next to you = no bonus to anything = not value for money.

 

If that's an enemy tank he's more likely to be shooting you than going "Oooh! Nice flag!" anyway. :tongue:

 

Living in Northern Ireland, flags cause nothing but trouble here anyway. You have an Irish car sticker because you once took your car to France via Rosslare, people think you're a Fenian terrorist who wants a united Ireland and everyone to speak Gaelic. You have a Union Jack logo on a tshirt, people think you're a blood-and-thunder pope-kicking Prod who wants to be part of Great Britain and Gawd Bless 'er Majesty.


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Air_Scotland #17 Posted 22 September 2014 - 01:02 PM

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View PostBelizariusCZ, on 22 September 2014 - 12:54 PM, said:

Feels like I'm opening a can of worms here, but why some people say "I'm british" instead of "I'm scottish", "I'm northern irish", "I'm english"?

 

basically Britain is just a group of countries who share the same currency and major laws. (a bit like the EU is) some people consider themselves to be a part of Britain as a single country (so therefore British) whilst others consider themselves to be part of one of the countries forming the Union (so therefore English Scottish Irish Welsh). Its almost like considering yourself to be European instead of German for example.



Lemacque #18 Posted 22 September 2014 - 01:11 PM

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View PostAir_Scotland, on 22 September 2014 - 12:56 PM, said:

 

Sorry to be a pain but its the Union Flag. This isn't World of Warships just yet :bush:

 

Also to say that i've noticed the same thing although i have gone even further to notice that the 'Eastern European' players seem to put their country codes in their usernames (the amount of names I come across with PL and CZ in the name). The thing i think i find is that A the 'Eastern' block seem to like to like announcing their nationalities a lot more anyhow and that WG.Net seem to like making a lot more eastern block inscriptions and emblems, so its likely that people just cant be bothered to have the single flag on every single tank.

 

Personally i have the flag on as many tanks as i can but thats just me being a bit patriotic there.

The idea that Union Jack is a term for the Union Flag on ships is a total navy-issm. I am sure the Admiralty & a quick flag history search will confirm this for you.

Either way, fly the flag & be proud!



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View PostBelizariusCZ, on 22 September 2014 - 12:54 PM, said:

 

 

Not sure really.  Personally I always say I'm English - never British.  To me, saying "I'm British" would be a bit like saying "I'm European".  Sure the countries that make up the UK have a closely shared history and, for the past few hundred years shared head of state and Government, but to me they're all still separate countries each with their own identity.  And I'm English!

 

OT I wouldn't bother spending money to put flags on my tanks.  It's just not of that much interest to me



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No its not the fact that it was on a ship i meant the fact that it wasnt on a jack pole.....last i checked the union jack was only the jack if it was on a a jack pole....most jack poles, although not all, are on ships (hence why i made the reference) although i will stand corrected if im wrong.




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