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Todeskult #1 Posted 26 September 2014 - 09:12 PM

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I wanted to play with my USSR light tanks, but seeing the characteristics of SH-37 magazine auto-gun I though that to be competitive it needs a buff. It suppose to be an equivalent to German MK103 automatic gun while it is not. The dispersion is awful (I'm missing most of my shots, the shells are flying everywhere but not inside the aiming circle, if 1 shell out of 5 in the magazine hits the target I consider it lucky). It is being mounted on T-80, MT-25 & T-50 I believe and those tanks suppose to be good arty hunters but this gun makes it difficult: missed shots and reload time can put you in bad situation.

 

 

Although dispersion value looks similar I got impression that Luchs & Leopard gun is more accurate while on the move, they are the same on paper only.

In a dogfight with their German counterparts USSR's T-50, T-80 are doomed, a buff in pen, dispersion on the move & maybe aiming time would be helpful I think.

 



LordDerp #2 Posted 27 September 2014 - 12:10 PM

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its because the 3cm is the top gun of the german tanks IIRC, and the 37mm for the russians isnt. Atleast, not for the MT-25 it is. With the other tanks, just get very close and that's that. Auto cannons aren't supposed to be very accurate on the move anyway...

Todeskult #3 Posted 27 September 2014 - 12:59 PM

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I know that those are not accurate, but still have impression that German one hits the target more often than SH-37.

DaniulSims #4 Posted 23 November 2014 - 10:36 AM

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View PostTodeskult, on 27 September 2014 - 12:59 PM, said:

I know that those are not accurate, but still have impression that German one hits the target more often than SH-37.

 

 

Because the rule "German = accurate" still apllies in the game, no matter how hard ze Zermans get nerfed.

IMHO it should get a pen. buff. I wouldnt mind a longer reload time, but the pen is insanely bad.



itzwazme #5 Posted 03 December 2014 - 12:32 PM

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A pen buff would be nice.

 

although buffing this gun to much might make the T-46 OP since it has that gun at tier 3, although that would have to be a major buff.



Brachiaraidos #6 Posted 07 December 2014 - 11:37 PM

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View Postitzwazme, on 03 December 2014 - 12:32 PM, said:

A pen buff would be nice.

 

although buffing this gun to much might make the T-46 OP since it has that gun at tier 3, although that would have to be a major buff.

 

The Pz II G has the 3cm, vastly superior version at tier 3 too.

Eokokok #7 Posted 07 December 2014 - 11:39 PM

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Reload time - half an hour on all tanks that use that 3cm. It pays a price, and SH is not a gun of choice for any tanks involved.

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View PostEokokok, on 07 December 2014 - 11:39 PM, said:

Reload time - half an hour on all tanks that use that 3cm. It pays a price, and SH is not a gun of choice for any tanks involved.

 

Exactly. If you use the SH tier 4+ you are doing it wrong. Even at tier 3 you have much better alternatives.

Girica #9 Posted 09 December 2014 - 10:46 AM

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View PostTodeskult, on 26 September 2014 - 08:12 PM, said:

Hi,

 

I wanted to play with my USSR light tanks, but seeing the characteristics of SH-37 magazine auto-gun I though that to be competitive it needs a buff. It suppose to be an equivalent to German MK103 automatic gun while it is not. The dispersion is awful (I'm missing most of my shots, the shells are flying everywhere but not inside the aiming circle, if 1 shell out of 5 in the magazine hits the target I consider it lucky). It is being mounted on T-80, MT-25 & T-50 I believe and those tanks suppose to be good arty hunters but this gun makes it difficult: missed shots and reload time can put you in bad situation.

 

 

Although dispersion value looks similar I got impression that Luchs & Leopard gun is more accurate while on the move, they are the same on paper only.

In a dogfight with their German counterparts USSR's T-50, T-80 are doomed, a buff in pen, dispersion on the move & maybe aiming time would be helpful I think.

 

 

You missed the value of aiming time, that is why German gun is better performing on the move.

And, I think that only top guns on same tier and same class are comparable... this is not the case.






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