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Hello together,
i guess everbody with a little tank knowledge was always woundering if the tank size displayed



is all over the way correct.



Table of contents
(1) history and background
(2) ingame examples
(3) downlaod ACM!




(1) history and background

Whats obvious, the tanks become bigger and bigger with the tiers becoming higher and higher. Is that historically accurate? To make it short: Yes, mostly -  but not as displayed in the game. Tanks which always looked pretty much oversized for me are the T9 tankhunters and the whole IS line. While other tanks stayed accurate, the IS line is getting bigger and bigger contours starting with the IS-1.

I dont know why wargiming.net did that for a very few tanks in the game, but not for all. Maybe it should display higher tier tanks more powerfull, but than this should be done not only for a certian heavy line. Since the release update, all new contours are about 1/0,95 times larger than the old contours.

The first aim of this mod is to normalize the tank sizes and resizing all new contours. The second aim is to add details to the contours in order to let the contour look unique and thus creating a better ingame feeling.

I recognized this issue for the first time when i saw a KT under a IS-3. The KT was the heaviest tank of the entire war, with the longest barrel used on a heavy tank as well. Comparing the masses, you will recognize a difference of almost 25tons. Its simply impossible to build such a huge tank (as displayed) with only 45tons like the IS-3. So i took a look at historically accurate measurements - to make it more examplified this is my approach:





As you can see the measurements has been changed pretty much.
Here are futher rezised IS pictures in comparison with the KT:







(2) ingame examples






(3) downlaod ACM!

v.0.8.0

HERE

(rapidshare)

in order to download the file, klick the green download button

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Installation is after patch 7.1.1 very easy, just have a look at the read me file in the .zip you just downloaded!

-Regards-

Thor_Hammschlag


(size) sources:

http://ww2drawings.j.../USSR-Armor.htm
http://armor.kiev.ua/Tanks/Modern/is7/
http://wikipedia.org/

Edited by Thor_Hammerschlag, 17 October 2012 - 08:16 PM.

This is a great idea, however I see a small problem in the resize. Im not nerd at all this, but I did make a simple contour mod myself and wanted to change the sizes of some.
I ran into the same problem.





As you can see the resized image have less black outlines yet more intense shadow and the color seems to have changed some.

But still +1 for the idea and I hope someone will fix all sizes of vehicle contours one day

 nafnist, on 25 June 2011 - 07:28 PM, said:

Thanks for the support

That was a indeed a problem, i was trying to fix it with the v0.1 release already, but it didnt really work. But now it does work i guess, lets have a look i comapared the v0.1 and now v0.15:



Really i would like to finish this for all skins one day. But i need some support because im mostly pretty busy.
What could really be helpfull is to write down tanks with contours which dont fit for example. I know many of them, but i guess not everyone.
For example the T28 its way to smal!


Really and thanks for the support, every "+1" is a great motivation to continue this work.



-> just uploaded the new version!






edit: A screen which shows all current edits:

Just to give you an update guys, im working on more tanks now.
Besides resizing them, im also adding some details to make them look more accurate.

A good example is the the T32, the contour was way to squishy. Lets see what i wanna say:

accurate.



Last but not least some more WIP, i couldnt test them yet ingame, so i may update the pack tomorrow after seeing them all ingame:



edit:
Finally! - the most oversized tank contours are out: no eye-cancer anymore  



Also i made them look more "tank-like" now, i took a look at some engineering drawings, these contours should reflect the actual vehicles pretty much better.


Best regards

huge first post update:
v0.2 released now. Totally amount of new contours: 15

you can dwn it here: http://www.2shared.c...rs_Mod_v02.html



I wanted to move this thread to another area of the forum. PM'ned a mod, but didnt get an answer.
anybody has an idea?
-> this thread belongs to the "general creativity" area.



Best regards
THOR

nice, been looking for this.

one thing: do you know where can i find the original files? i've downloaded a contour mod and forgot to do the backup of the original ones.

 wigglystyle, on 30 June 2011 - 04:10 PM, said:

Thanks


I uploaded my whole "contours" file for you. It is including my current pack, and inside of it - into the "old WOT contours" folder there are all old WOT contours if you may wanna replace them.

simply paste it here:
...\Games\World_of_Tanks_closed_Beta\res\gui\maps\icons\vehicle\



Best regards,
THOR






edit: just another update: v0.21

->download: http://www.2shared.c...T_contours.html
http://www.2shared.c...s_Mod_v021.html






To give you another "how-to" picture, i uploaded a special pic for the T30,
to let you see what im actually doin here:

Im going to incorporate this mod into my own Slightly Colored Mod
I hope you dont mind ;p

v0.3 is out, it doubles the amount of edited contours:
I need some advice now, i dont really know many more contours which may need an edit


All new contours (and a lot old reworks) + added details are in now.

lets show a few:






download v0.3 here: http://www.2shared.c...s_Mod_v03_.html



best regards

wow thank you for this. surprised i never came across this as its one of the things that really bug me in the game

dude they should implement this into core of the game this is excellent ! submit it to suggestions subforum and point some of the developers to this topic great job

 Thor_Hammerschlag, on 04 July 2011 - 11:24 PM, said:

Definitely great job, but as far as I noticed, T29 is still not reworked (it has far too short and far too big gun [looks like a 128mm]) and I think also T34 has something bad with its gun (but I might be mistaken).

You have the point Thor, but I don't think that devs will listen to you...  
I asked Overlord in Q&A topic something similar some time ago:

"Is there any plans to change icons of tanks? I'm not sure how a 70+tons Tiger II can have such a small icon (Panther II is about 20 tons lighter, and have a larger icon than KT)  + he has a small gun on icon, and the new redesigned 10.5 cm KwK 46 L/68 is quite long (maybe even longer than the one on Lowe, and the Lowe got a huuuuuge icon with big gun)... And the Maus icon have some weird stuff on the back, that the tank in game doesn't have...

Sorry if there was already this question (or similar one), but I haven't seen any..."

Overlord:

"Not planning to change them in the near future."  

 Wakpina, on 25 July 2011 - 12:58 PM, said:

Thanks. Support is always nice.
I thought the suggestions forum is gone, am i wrong?

 Wykonc, on 26 July 2011 - 05:46 PM, said:

Oh, yea. I totally forget about this. I have no idea where there have this contour from. It will get a longer & thinner gun. I took a look in my T34 at it, it as long as the 120mm. Just way less massive.

 FrostDX, on 28 July 2011 - 07:02 PM, said:

Sounds like work for me. And yea, you are absolutly right about that. The contours - especially the late tier ones are often just fail. (the object is the masterpiece for sure)
I didnt plan yet to add alternative weaponery, expect for the T9 tankhunters.
Löwe will be revisted again, its back is not alright yet. Also, the T8 T9 US-tankhunters are still too big. I made a mistake here, i thought these project were based on the hulls of the other T-series, but thats wrong. I got a new contour for the T34 as well, maybe i will release a little update soon..


Regards

Lets have an update, here is a WIP of v0.31 im currently working on. I guess i will release it next week





T29 - I added the 105mm, the T29 historically accurate gun. The other one was just.. a piece of wood? i dunno but it wasnt a gun after all   + its typical rangefinder added !

T32 - maybe my best contour yet, it received further improvements.

T34 - completly new, new with accurate turret and 120mm with accurate thickness.

T30 - reworked its brightness.



Regards,
Thor

Great effort and thankyou!

Nice work Mr. Thor

I always disliked the default contours as being very inaccurate.
Might try it out.

Arsaneus

Really nice work, thanks a lot!

Thor_Hammerschlag, don't you think the last two muzzle breaks in your v.0.31 (especially on the T30) are a little bit oversized and out of shape? It looks like a equilateral triangle and in real life ang in game it's more like in this drawing

Furthermore, all the new contours are ok in their colour, but IS-3 and IS-7 ar stil way way brighter.

Please also take a look at russian TDs, especially SU and ISU-152, which have damn pathetic ML-20 (no muzzle break is visible, is rather like a stick).
http://www5b.biglobe...52/su152-06.jpg

Also prepare for a lot of tough work with new german tanks, their contours are as bad as always.
Regards

hi wykonc,
the muzzlebrakes seem so huge because of the bad contrast with the contour because of the forum's color. Did you play v0.3?
the muzzlebrake of the T30 hasnt been changed at all it v0.31!

Also what you posted is a T29, this is the T30:



Its quite a big muzzlebrake what we got here - the T34 got the same.


About the rest, you are absolutly correct. I dont know why but i tried it several times now, the brightness simply doesnt work as it should on the IS3 and IS7. I must have a closer look at them, i will see what i can do.

The ISU muzzle brake is quite a lil one (compared to its barrel diameter), might almost be impossible to make it visible. I will see what i can do about it.


But thanks for that form of criticism. I really appreciate that. This is how i can make this mod better an better!



Regards,
Thor_Hammerschlag