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NotAnotherForumTroll #1 Posted 26 June 2011 - 07:15 PM

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official dev responce is that its not going to change.
despite having more frontal armor then maus, t95 is not immune to smaller HE into the front armor like maus.
also almost every HE from bigger cannons gives you crit/wounded crew.



only nice thing is that when artillery lands on either side of tank, you take no damage, just lose tracks (like GW-E)



Molysmof0bie #2 Posted 26 June 2011 - 07:35 PM

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wow....that's pathetic

and i wanted US TD's so bad  :unsure:

why doesn't the devs change it, is it "historical accurate"?

shnbwmn #3 Posted 26 June 2011 - 08:53 PM

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just like T30   :P

Waggel #4 Posted 26 June 2011 - 09:03 PM

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Isn't the mantlet supposed to have the thickest armor? And it can be damaged but the rest of the front can't? Insane

Mikicat #5 Posted 26 June 2011 - 09:07 PM

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The only real question I can conjure up is... Why? I can't see any real reason why they would do this. If one tier 9 TD is damageable in front by any HE shell, why is this not being done for all of them? Or all tanks period? This is a VERY heavily armored tank in the front, if any armor SHOULD be able to withstand it it's this X3. Some times this game confuses me to the point where my already over-loaded circuits can take no more. I'm still really looking forward to the US TDs though, that's the only line I wanted to play after BETA ended, and it's the one I'm still waiting for X3.

Zieten #6 Posted 26 June 2011 - 09:45 PM

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no surprise here. US tanks always get the shaft

Clover #7 Posted 27 June 2011 - 03:11 AM

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View PostNotAnotherForumTroll, on 26 June 2011 - 07:15 PM, said:

official dev responce is that its not going to change.


Link?

NotAnotherForumTroll #8 Posted 27 June 2011 - 08:32 AM

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View PostClover, on 27 June 2011 - 03:11 AM, said:

Link?
somewhere on russian forum, cant be botheted looking, but its real deal

ThaTrip #9 Posted 27 June 2011 - 08:45 AM

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Lol a TD tank that has really good protection against arty, and still worried about your frontal armor is being damage by small tanks with HE.

You really should try out the JT, then judge again

anonym_Pe6U1uAVrU9w #10 Posted 27 June 2011 - 12:32 PM

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Now its the time developers of the american td line to quit from WOT imidiatly.
They created an worhtless far too slow and toy tank destroyer..

CCC_Dober #11 Posted 27 June 2011 - 12:59 PM

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Kinda reminds me of the VK45 vs MS1 video. VK45 got fixed ... eventually.

theta0123 #12 Posted 27 June 2011 - 05:24 PM

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Its US tanks. they wont fix it.

Typical WG behaviour towards US tanks. Even the russian players on russian forums complain about this, but even they remain unheard

Just1ce #13 Posted 27 June 2011 - 05:41 PM

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View Posttheta0123, on 27 June 2011 - 05:24 PM, said:

Its US tanks. they wont fix it.

Typical WG behaviour towards US tanks. Even the russian players on russian forums complain about this, but even they remain unheard


I don't know how you should call this. bias, idiotism or brainless?

Rutger_NL #14 Posted 27 June 2011 - 06:28 PM

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But how?

HE doesnt penetrate --> 50% dmg
Then armor will reduce the 50% dmg to some lower value depending on the armor thickness
This should work the same for all tanks, so whats different here?

Has this something to do with the new skirt type armor that they used to 'repair' certain tank hitboxes like Maus, Jagdtiger etc?
The HE heat wave blast will look for the tanks weakest spot in a 45 deg cone angle, so that might indicate that there are some weakspots or holes in the T95 armor.

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A vehicle's armor partly absorbs heat-damage (each tanks has it's own value), including installed spall liner.
Or they just gave the T95 a really bad value for heat dmg absorption.

Penpenn #15 Posted 27 June 2011 - 08:47 PM

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A mantlet made of paper?

Eeexcellent.

Vendelin #16 Posted 28 June 2011 - 11:40 AM

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View PostPenpenn, on 27 June 2011 - 08:47 PM, said:

A mantlet made of paper?

Eeexcellent.
no worries, germans got their mantlets fixed afer 6 months

VaHaLa_LTU #17 Posted 28 June 2011 - 05:48 PM

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Great, they just made 1/3 of the supposedly "impenetrable" 300mm sloped front a weak spot for ALL HE. I just wonder what happens if that mantlet gets hit by 105 derp, or even worse, KV 152mm derp?  :huh:

It seems that all US tanks are getting screwed over so bad (t29 nerfed like 5 times, t1 and m6 - same tanks, m4a3e8 not getting a good gun that can actually penetrate stuff, horrible artillery accuracy, and now this...). WG, please stop being so stuck up and give some love to US tanks!  :angry:

Spartakus_84 #18 Posted 29 June 2011 - 01:00 PM

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View PostVendelin, on 28 June 2011 - 11:40 AM, said:

no worries, germans got their mantlets fixed afer 6 months

Was longer that that, wayyy longer, more like 10 months.

Vendelin #19 Posted 29 June 2011 - 06:48 PM

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View PostStanislavKus, on 29 June 2011 - 01:00 PM, said:

Was longer that that, wayyy longer, more like 10 months.
cmon dude i was being optimistic B)

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View PostRutger_NL, on 27 June 2011 - 06:28 PM, said:

But how?

HE doesnt penetrate --> 50% dmg
Then armor will reduce the 50% dmg to some lower value depending on the armor thickness
This should work the same for all tanks, so whats different here?

Has this something to do with the new skirt type armor that they used to 'repair' certain tank hitboxes like Maus, Jagdtiger etc?
The HE heat wave blast will look for the tanks weakest spot in a 45 deg cone angle, so that might indicate that there are some weakspots or holes in the T95 armor.

Or they just gave the T95 a really bad value for heat dmg absorption.

Isn't the shape of the tank a bit like...

|_|
|x|
|x|

("|"=tracks, "x"= body of the tank)

The tracks stick out in the front, the HE shells probably damage the inside of the tracks when they hit the tank almost anywhere in the front. That's just a guess of course.




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