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Snerra #1 Posted 06 November 2014 - 05:18 PM

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New Stronghold Game Mode will kill the fun for the small clans or clans with none experience with CW.

The introduction with Stronghold made many old players come back to this game and it was a fun part for us with 0 CW experience to play something simular to CW.

You can do better! ! ! !

babuuni #2 Posted 12 November 2014 - 02:48 PM

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What's the problem, isn't it so that low level buildings can't be attacked?

babuuni #3 Posted 12 November 2014 - 02:51 PM

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Or do you mean that you want the biggest rewards without participating in the biggest challenges?

XBaggers #4 Posted 13 November 2014 - 04:55 PM

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 do you mean that you want the biggest rewards without participating in the biggest challenges?

 

No, we mean we would like the bigger rewards but by actually being able to take part using tier six, eight and ten tanks with a staggered scale in team size so that a CLAN of however big can partake at its level.

 

Not take part in CW farming every day every night, all the time, 15 v 15 at tier ten on a local map i.e. our stronghold.

 

The fact we could have a level 6 command centre and defend using tier six tanks and seven players means our payment is LESS than defending with tier eight tanks and ten players and so forth.  

 

Or strange that it may sound it means a clan can partake then grow beyond level four command structure, instead of just sitting at four NOT partaking in stronghold proper.

 

 

The Stronghold structure is simple:

Up to tier four you cannot attack nor be attacked. At Lvl 5,6 command structure, you can attack and defend in tier six tanks.  That is to say only command structure of the same weight can attack thus 

can only attack using tier six tanks.  How many clans with a command building at lvl 5,6 you chose to attack is up to your clan.

 

At lvl 7,8 you can attack and defend at tier eight.  At Lvl 7,8 command structure, you can attack and defend in tier eight tanks. That is to say only command structures of the same weight can attack, thus 

can only attack using tier eight tanks.  How many clans with a command building at lvl 7,8 you chose to attack is up to your clan.

 

At lvl 9,10 its full on 15v15 tier ten tanks

 


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JohnW #5 Posted 14 November 2014 - 11:16 PM

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What's the point with creating Stronghold then it's exacly the same thing as Clan Wars already is. 

Change so we can decide which tier to attack and defend on.



sandfacer #6 Posted 20 November 2014 - 08:12 AM

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the 15 tier 10 tanks is too much at tier 5 the attsck stronghold mode is too tough for smaller clans or inexperienced clans NO NEED FOR A LEVEL 5 STRONGHOLD ATTACK TO BE TIER 10 make it tier 6

how can a clan that plays mostly at tier 6 with some tier 8 skirmishes suddenly be supposed to take on elite clans at tier 10 (we know still licking our wounds from a battle with F15 ) uttermost respect for them bty

had it beed tier 6 we played them at the result would probably have been the same but at least we could have gone into battle with a level playing field in terms of tanks

as soon as we have played the scheduled battles we are having to pull out of attacking clans as we cant find any to fight on a level playing field clans with a tier 5 stronghold are mostly elite clans and can field 15 tier 10s we can manage about 8 if all players are online

please rethink this attack mode it would be great if the tier problem was sorted



sandfacer #7 Posted 20 November 2014 - 08:18 AM

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View Postbabuuni, on 12 November 2014 - 01:48 PM, said:

What's the problem, isn't it so that low level buildings can't be attacked?

 

so the rest of the game have to stay at tier 4 for eternity whilst the elite clans get all the rewards

the mode needs tiering  the smaller clans will just get ripped apart by the elite clans as it is and stop playing what is the point of that

im not saying that smaller clans should be able to get to level 10 and fight tier 6 when attacking  but at tier 5 they should be able to we have 100 clan members and since kv1s was removed from tier 6 have a lot of fun playing tier 6 also play some tier 8 we doing ok but hit tier 5 stronghold but wont build another building tier 5 as will just get pillaged every night in a mode we cannot field a full team at

 



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 What's the problem, isn't it so that low level buildings can't be attacked?

 

Because to take part in attempting to pillage a mid level clan, your clan is required to raise its stronghold to level five.

BUT once your stronghold is at level five you can ONLY defend valiantly using 15 tier 10 tanks.

 

So in truth mid level clans will never build above level four and join in attempting to attack another clan (a section of the game

not possible)  which was the reason we don't take part in Clan Wars in the first place.

 

Strongholds was suppose to address the issue of clan not partaking in Clan Wars and the bright idea was to actually say

you cannot take part in this format either.

 

 



Obsessive_Compulsive #9 Posted 26 November 2014 - 09:50 AM

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Many clans have stopped playing. Its broken. well done WG.

XBaggers #10 Posted 26 November 2014 - 12:22 PM

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Its not broken really, just its not strongholds, its actually Clan Wars without the hassle of a global map.

No need to wait for turns to be processed no need to work timetables for attack and defence.

No waiting for special battles invite, just make a team from clan members and press Battle.

 



Ulvar40 #11 Posted 02 December 2014 - 11:24 PM

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View PostSmeeeeg_Heeeeed, on 26 November 2014 - 08:50 AM, said:

Many clans have stopped playing. Its broken. well done WG.

 

Yupp.. I really hoped that stronghold would have been a "small" clan´s road to build experience to take the big step up to CW. But when one can only attack and defend with tier x and you lack the experience on that level, ut kills it.  

 

 

 



Visom #12 Posted 03 December 2014 - 12:55 PM

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The main problem as I see it is that you can grind resources with T6 tanks up to level 4 if you're in a small clan. Upgrade to level 5 and you'll get ran over. So, small clans will not be able to take part in the attack/defend part of Strongholds. My guess is that these clans aren't really interested in the bonuses that comes at higher levels, but the concept of attacking/defending instead of just fighting skirmishes.

 

I'd suggest something like level 5 Strongholds use T6 tanks, level 6-7 use T8 tanks and above is the CW version. An alternative would be to limit defense days for level 5 Stronghold to 4 days/week, level 6 5 days/week and level 7 and up can be attacked 6 days per week. Another option would be to limit the number of resources earned if a clan with level 8 Stronghold attacks a level 5 Stronghold. Of course, other rules and restrictions that encoureges clans to attack someone in their own size instead of easy targets would be good.

 

The main problem that needs fixing is that when the small/medium clan that enjoys T6 skirmishes 3-4 evenings per week wants to progress the next step is 15 men teams with T10 tanks six evenings per week.



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The stronghold build up was done with tier 6 to 10. Battle mode would of course have the same options. Today smaller clans or less experienced, are just getting farmed!



XBaggers #14 Posted 04 December 2014 - 10:50 AM

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Not really we are simply not taking part any more.

For those who are tired of being farmed just press

the button and revert to tier four and after 48 hours

no longer need to play this mode ever again.



McLad_1 #15 Posted 10 December 2014 - 11:33 AM

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why not just make it simple,tier 5 stronghold =tier 5 battles,tier 6 = tier 6 battles etc, in assault modes ,attacker has to capture/kill,defender well.........defends,tank numbers to fit the tier

WaffleTiger #16 Posted 10 December 2014 - 12:02 PM

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View PostUlvar40, on 02 December 2014 - 10:24 PM, said:

 

Yupp.. I really hoped that stronghold would have been a "small" clan´s road to build experience to take the big step up to CW. But when one can only attack and defend with tier x and you lack the experience on that level, ut kills it.  

 

 

 

 

Can't you set it to a specific tier?

ackdaw #17 Posted 10 December 2014 - 06:49 PM

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totally agree with the above posts ,   we should perhaps form and request action or a at least what would you prefer on strongholds vote ? as im at a loss to understand what wots trying to do apart from get me to suggest to the clan we all go our own ways , and mine will include finding something to do with less hassle  than this .

 this could have worked so well but i am missing the point ?



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 Can't you set it to a specific tier? 

 

At tier four you can set the tier, you can enter into a fight for resource points against any given side (TOTALLY RANDOM DUE TO TIER SIZE SELECTED), however these resource points are given to everyone for free by WoT, the resource points are not raided form another clan the points are just divided up for a pool.  AT tier four the maps are random also, the size of the teams are dependant on the tier selected at tier six its 7 players or at tier eight its 10 players (NOTE: Team size can also be a tier selection method, this also means smaller clans can partake just at a different level)

 

However once you make a command structure to lvl five to take the research/resource point of another clan (Not a pool divised by WoT), it is always 15 players v 15 players in tier ten tanks, where you need to defend your own base six days a week.

 

It's not just having 15 player with tier ten tanks, its also having 15 players with tier ten tanks online everyday to protect your own assets from attack which is Clan wars on the global map.

 

 

 


Edited by XBaggers, 15 December 2014 - 10:11 AM.


RedSox04 #19 Posted 16 December 2014 - 07:52 PM

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I contributed quite a bit to my old clans stronghold and agree with the above posts. Top clans are just going to rape lower level clans for fun. Needs to be a balance somewhere so you can at least enter the battlefield with some chance of winning. Otherwise it'll just be the top clans choosing not to fight each other and that's the end of the whole thing. SHs have a lot of potential and WG need to act now to ensure it's future.

FidelisRaven #20 Posted 22 December 2014 - 12:19 PM

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Why is it that I see people from -T-O- whining constantly? Campaign whine, award tank whine, now strongholds whine as well? Daaaamn...

If smaller clans don't want to get attacked, don't develop your stronghold beyond tier IV. It's that simple. But no, you boys would like bigger bonuses, but with no bigger risk. Understand for once that clan activity is about competition. You don't want to get roflstomped? Improve. Or be content with minor stronghold bonuses. 




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