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john1953 #1 Posted 17 November 2014 - 06:45 PM

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Should finish the Object 416 grind today. Found it a difficult tank to operate. Great gun little armour and virtually no gun depression. Is the Object 430 ii worth buying?

Gmop #2 Posted 19 November 2014 - 09:56 AM

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Most people like the Object 416 better then Object 430II. Not me I really like the Object 430II, for me the good turrent is what makes it great.

Winter #3 Posted 19 November 2014 - 01:30 PM

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430 II trades the 416's camo for armour, which gives it a completely different playstyle but I would say they're about equally difficult to handle. On top of that the T-54 leads to two better tier Xs so I'd just go for that if you haven't already.

Omnichr0n #4 Posted 21 November 2014 - 12:15 PM

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Personally I find the Obj 430 II to be one of the better tier 9 tanks. As it is low in the terrain, you can easily get into hull down positions or into positions where the top of the hull barely is revealed. The turret is very bouncy together with front/top if the hull (not straight into the top of hull of course), which means that you can reliably bounce a lot of shots.

 

A lot of people will say that it is perfect to sidescrape with... although it can sidescrape due to the turret being so far back, I found myself getting penned a bit too often while sidescraping.

 

So, should you get it? Well, it has the same problems as the Obj 416 when it comes to operating it, with the difference of the armor of course (but also being spotted more easily). This means you can use the Obj 430 II much more up close... reminding me a bit of the A-44, although with a better gun.

 

T-54 is a more forgiving tank to drive, and the two tanks you can get from that grind is also considered better than the Obj 430. T-54 is a better tank due to mobility and is easier to use... but also has worse armor in just about every way.

 

I will leave it up to you what to get. I'd go for both anyways  :teethhappy:

 

 

 

 



DeathByDribbling #5 Posted 01 December 2014 - 02:58 PM

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Someone in WG was in a happy place when they worked out grind for this, so easy:

- you get the best gun stock, and top radio from 416.

-the stock engine is only 30hp down on the top one so no massive loss.

-the first turret is pretty good (well armoured, top view range).

-the stock tracks have so much weight allowance you can mount a full set of modules and the upgraded turret on them.

 

 

If you want a tier 9 med and don't want to have to blow a ton of XP to make it good then this is the tank for you.



TapChan #6 Posted 04 February 2015 - 01:33 PM

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Hello, I've just researched it and so I came with questions.

Is there any strict order in which I have to research modules? As far I have torsion bars as equip - it's funny i didn't checked if stock tracks weight limit is enough to carry equip, it's so damn unique in this game - and don't know if top tracks gives lot more maneuverability or maybe shouldn't bother with it.

I thought about this order:

turret > tracks > engine > gun - is it right?

 

Also if weight limit is ok then maybe I should switch torsion bars with toolbox  - i need Repairs as my crew is stock also -_-' Same as on Obj 416 where up untill yesterday I had no Sixth Sense.

Also I'd like to hear about ammorack and engine - are they being destroyed as often as on Obj. 416? Because still can't figure out if I should go for Preventative Maintenance + Safe Stowage or Camo/Repair as first skill/perk.


Edited by TapChan, 04 February 2015 - 01:34 PM.


Cvekla #7 Posted 21 February 2015 - 04:35 PM

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Obj. 430 II is credit killer tank even with premium acc !!!



TuuliTuule #8 Posted 03 March 2015 - 10:19 AM

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Bought it yesterday, after 17 games, with ~88% crew, I aced it. It is rly good and worth to buy, even if you dont want to buy the tier X it leads to. Amazingly good for sidescraping (keep your angle extreme and you can count on non-pens. The gun feels reasonable accurate for 0,36 and everythin else is okay too.

But what it makes really speacial, is the armor...I mean, I don't have the big turret yet, but still I am able to bounce almost every shot in facehug. I had 3  1v1s in one game. First against a PTA (Indien gun) WT auf Panzer IV and E75, I got penned once, by the E75 but JUST because I got flanked and tracked, so he could shot my side. It is rly crazy. It already became routine, to facehug, whenever it is possible. Two steel walls so far, after 17 games. Also the gundepression is okay, compared to 416.


Edited by TuuliTuule, 03 March 2015 - 10:20 AM.


petya75 #9 Posted 19 January 2016 - 01:57 PM

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Which gun do you use on it guys?

Carantanien #10 Posted 19 January 2016 - 02:06 PM

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I just got it recently too (still everything stock) and first impresion is, that this will be one of the easiest stock tier9 grind.

 

I will use stock gun, as i just uber hate everything with aimtime more then 2.3.

 

Question: engine or turret first? Are those extra 30hp notable?



Dont_Stop #11 Posted 19 January 2016 - 02:36 PM

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View Postpetya75, on 19 January 2016 - 02:57 PM, said:

Which gun do you use on it guys?

 

D-54 or the one with highest penetration.



petya75 #12 Posted 20 January 2016 - 11:54 AM

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View PostDont_Stop, on 19 January 2016 - 01:36 PM, said:

 

D-54 or the one with highest penetration.

 

 I used that too but then switched back to the M63 because of aim time and slightly better dispersion, better ROF but far too many dings, that 18mm difference in penetration is missing though...

Edited by petya75, 20 January 2016 - 02:45 PM.





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