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Hardass's Photo Hardass 12 Sep 2011

Fired 1 shot at IS-3 head on from other side of map he was peekaboo behind a building result = 95% of his hit points gone in one shot :)

Fired 1 shot at T44 in TD Mode on himmelsdorf result = dead in one shot

fired 1 shot at IS-7 result = set on fire down to 33%

if you think about your positioning and take your time you can own any tank with the GWPanther
trick is fire at what you can hit not at what you might hit

O and laugh at T54/patton/E50 running away from you if they miss doesnt happen alot but it does happen
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sndr's Photo sndr 13 Sep 2011

GW Panther is really piece of shit. M12 is better for sure. I dunno what they have done to this artilery but I got A LOT of overshots which I cant explain actually how can I miss, but I missing. Im used with flat trajectory shooting arties mainly russians and even tho I still cant tame this beast  :(  Felt much better with M12 and I ll get it again. Close range panther is good, its mobile. Soon Im getting the Tiger, too.
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Tocon's Photo Tocon 17 Sep 2011

I have question. Have you noticed that since 6.7 patch GW-P acc goes down? I had few battles today in which I couldn't hit anything becouse it was always flew behind or next to my target. I don't know did they change something or my skill goes down really fast.
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Nekomancer's Photo Nekomancer 18 Sep 2011

Nah, doesn't feel different to me at all. It's still a great SPG and i like it even more than my Hummel. But it's important to get the better gun.
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YOOP's Photo YOOP 20 Sep 2011

GwPanther is great. Much better than Hummel.
What I did with my GWPanther:
- 1 shot IS3
- 1 shot T28, tier 8 TD from US tech tree
- top gun medal.

I will never sell my GwPanther.
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jacques15's Photo jacques15 21 Sep 2011

I've found this a great piece of arty. Only one thing I've been wondering after last patch. I simply can't do any damage to T95. I'll either get a message "that one didn't go through"->0dmg, 0dmg crit(tracked) or "we just dinged them. I've shot and hit a lot of T95's past week but I've yet to deal any damage to them frontally. Wasn't he supposed to do ~half of the damage even without penetration?
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elektrizikekswerk's Photo elektrizikekswerk 22 Sep 2011

I didn't notice any issues on damaging/destroying T95s (or any other particular tank).
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SayHiMyShell99's Photo SayHiMyShell99 22 Sep 2011

Quick point to make here, if you do not get on with the GWP leave the artillery game for others to use, it is by far the best tier 6 artillery and in my personal opinion it is the best artillery piece in the game. it is so easy to use, deadly accurate fast mobile. and a brilliant gun.
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shproty's Photo shproty 24 Sep 2011

GWP - best arty in game I played. If you are struggling with it - leave arty for others as previous guy said :) Play with GWT will be 100 times harder
Even on city maps you can  easy support with it your heavies playing like heavy striking TD hiding behind their armor
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SayHiMyShell99's Photo SayHiMyShell99 24 Sep 2011

View Postsndr, on 13 September 2011 - 02:47 PM, said:

GW Panther is really piece of shit. M12 is better for sure. I dunno what they have done to this artilery but I got A LOT of overshots which I cant explain actually how can I miss, but I missing. Im used with flat trajectory shooting arties mainly russians and even tho I still cant tame this beast  :(  Felt much better with M12 and I ll get it again. Close range panther is good, its mobile. Soon Im getting the Tiger, too.

sorry did you just say the m12 is better,

my advice if you cant shoot accuratly with a GWP leave the artillery game for other people your more likely to frustrate other users if you land on a team with them. you are probably not much better with a M12.
m12 is slower, less accurate gun, worse range. longer to reload takes longer to turn and does not come with the amazing 50 degrees ark?
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Kimsters's Photo Kimsters 24 Sep 2011

then i would say you're unlucky.. average damage on 1200 is not a thing you see ofthen.. but it is important to hit the crusal spot on eatch and evry tanks... not all tanks take most damage whit a pure hit on tower.. som tanks loses more damage if you hit on the back. and some on the very front.... whit the precision you got on gw panther you can mor or less decide where you want to hit, especaly on stasjonery targets...
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Fangalein's Photo Fangalein 25 Sep 2011

View PostTocon, on 17 September 2011 - 04:35 PM, said:

I have question. Have you noticed that since 6.7 patch GW-P acc goes down? I had few battles today in which I couldn't hit anything becouse it was always flew behind or next to my target. I don't know did they change something or my skill goes down really fast.

I realized that today. I have full zeroed reticle in front of a target and it shoots behind,and the opposite or 5 meters aside. Too many ghostshells (wasted $$$$), Enemies appear in the map,when I move the reticle to the specific area,after 2 seconds they disappear and when I move reticle to another area they appear again. Game is trolling me. I shot a direct hit at T54 and i did it only 30% dmg ROFL. Also for example I shot an E75, direct hit does to him 30% and if the shell explode next to him it does 40% :/ . Allthough my stats are 249 battles - 257 destroyed.

PS: my crew is 100% and i have all arty equipment.
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elektrizikekswerk's Photo elektrizikekswerk 25 Sep 2011

Something goes wrong with you, guys...
I haven't noticed any accuracy issues on GW Panther since patch. In fact my hit ratio is risen the last days by about 1 (from 41,5% to 42,7%).

Well, sometimes the bullet goes far outside the aiming circle (and very rarely appear ghost shells), but most times the bullet hits exactly where it should hit - somewhere inside the aiming circle.

@Kimsters: You might be right in saying some tanks are easier to damage on special spots than others. But I am wondering how you can aim effectively for these spots. In most cases the enemy tank fills out the hole aiming circle. Depending on the orientation of that tank realtive to yours it might be possible to decide whether aiming on the front half or the back half of the tank. That's it. Please tell me, how to hit(!) those points effectivley on a distance of at least 700m.

@Fangalein: I don't know your other stats (and I'm too lazy and to short in time at the moment to look at them), but 257 destructions on 249 battles doesen't sound very good. I know, destructions are not very important, but the difference to my stats makes me wondering (290 destructions in 182 battles)...
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SayHiMyShell99's Photo SayHiMyShell99 25 Sep 2011

its no normally how many you kill its what you kill, my stats are 80 games played 132 kills atm.
yet i have a 700xp per battle average and 62 percent win ratio.
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elektrizikekswerk's Photo elektrizikekswerk 26 Sep 2011

Yes, true.
But don't lie to me. Your avg XP is at 673 and your win ratio is 56%.

So I decided to compare the other values to express better what I wanted to say:
Stat: Yours / Fangalein's / mine
Hit ratio: 36% / 35% / 43%
Damage per battle: ~1675 / ~1170 / ~1990
Avg XP*: 449 / 341 / 477
Survived battles / won battles**: 0,71 / 0,7 / 0,92
Kill/battle: 1,65 / 1,03 / 1,59

So I was true with my assumption, Fangalein's over all performance is not that good. And, as you see, you're right. It's not important how many you kill, but what you kill. So it seems as if you aim for more easy targets as I do. I reason this, because you have a better kill-ratio but my hit-ratio (and damage-ratio) is higher. The only thing I can't explain is your damage ratio compared to Fangalein's, because your hit ratios are basically the same. Well Fangalein seems not to have a premium account, so he will have needed more battles to get the better gun. But he has far more battles than you so this "disadvantage" should already be equalized. Well, maybe you make far more "near hits" dealing splash damage than he.

But my over all assumption seems to be proved: The GW Panther wasn't changed in last patch.

*Normalized to standard account's values. I guess you have a premium account, and Fangalein a standard account (because of the values). I have premium.
**I think this value is a good indicator for how good someone can evade enemy's scouts. So for arty this value should be around 1.
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KrieGsgotT's Photo KrieGsgotT 26 Sep 2011

View PostYOOP, on 20 September 2011 - 10:15 AM, said:

GwPanther is great. Much better than Hummel.
What I did with my GWPanther:
- 1 shot IS3
- 1 shot T28, tier 8 TD from US tech tree
- top gun medal.

I will never sell my GwPanther.

You must have a different GW Panther then.

http://i188.photobuc...0/shot_3901.jpg

Cant even 1 shot a KV , and not once no no no could not 1 shot a KV 3 times in a row in 1 day.

Only with extreme luck i do around 1000 damage , but most of the times its around 300-400 hp damage on Russian and American tanks and 500-600 hp damage to German tanks(guess how thats possible)

Yes you fire HE with this thing but cant 1 shot a KV from behind with HE or only do 380 damage to a T29 side , yes I have seen it all. Best rename this GW Panther to a light arty because I see SU-8's doing alot more damage most of the times on all sides of the tank.
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Fangalein's Photo Fangalein 27 Sep 2011

elektrizikekswerk : I dont have premium account.

KrieGsgotT : damage depends or angle of hit,distance and penetration. Ive taken out T28, Type59 , IS, Tiger with 1 shot to their side.
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YOOP's Photo YOOP 27 Sep 2011

KrieGsgotT, I have the same GwPanther as your.
Maybe you don't have luck.
As Fangalein said, depends where you aim, the angle of hit.
I don't aim on the centre of the tank. I try to aim just a little bit behind the tank because of the shell trajectory.
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Fangalein's Photo Fangalein 28 Sep 2011

View PostKrieGsgotT, on 26 September 2011 - 03:15 PM, said:


hey where i can find these skins?
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InnocentNewbie's Photo InnocentNewbie 28 Sep 2011

I am just about to get my GWP and I have few questions:

How is the accuracy with the upgraded gun when compared to hummel? Is the aiming time same? How about the amount of drunken shots that go far off the aiming circle? How much longer is the loading time?

What else should a newbie arty and GWP pilot know?
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