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Community #1 Posted 05 December 2014 - 12:39 PM

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The final stage of the campaign, Fall of the Empires, will begin shortly – check out what awaits you!

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Monster95alpha19 #2 Posted 05 December 2014 - 01:06 PM

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Are Technical Defeats taken into account?..for example Clan X succesfully takes over 3 provinces from Clan Y without any lose abut Clan Z takes a province from Clan X but by Technical Win .Will the multiplier for winning be broken for Clan X?

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Gnomus #3 Posted 05 December 2014 - 01:20 PM

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Nice work there WG. Again you managed to screw those who played Stage 1 and Stage 2 well but are having problems with T10 tanks. Players (not clans, players, those who are competing for the tank) will get around 1.25 to 3 multiplier for their fame points from battles, so battles in third stage will be much more valuable than battles of 1st and 2nd stage.

 

Good thing is that clans that are capable of fighting in S3 have better change to take last minute jump for FP's, but clans (like most small or average clans lacking full T10 garages) or players who had planned to get majority of their FP's in earlier stages are badly screwed.



sunny_day #4 Posted 05 December 2014 - 01:30 PM

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wow, so balanced!

Suppose I decide to wipe off and then attack a clan that have 5 provinces and a revolt. G=2.5, so instead of usual 4k FP I got 10k FP.

OH YEAH.



Ajsich #5 Posted 05 December 2014 - 01:55 PM

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I think that you guys are not quite right. It's not about PLAYERS fame points, but about CLANS fame points. :)

SanyaJuutilainen #6 Posted 05 December 2014 - 02:01 PM

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View Postsunny_day, on 05 December 2014 - 01:30 PM, said:

wow, so balanced!

Suppose I decide to wipe off and then attack a clan that have 5 provinces and a revolt. G=2.5, so instead of usual 4k FP I got 10k FP.

OH YEAH.

 

Not like previous stages didn't have multipliers...

ptitMarcassin #7 Posted 05 December 2014 - 02:05 PM

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View PostAjsich, on 05 December 2014 - 01:55 PM, said:

I think that you guys are not quite right. It's not about PLAYERS fame points, but about CLANS fame points. :)

 

not, it's about Players and Clan FP

source: http://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/pc-browser/cw/cw-3rdcampaign-fpguide/

So 1st stage is useless

2nd stage determines clan's ranking

3rd stage determines player's ranking

 

 



Manslayer #8 Posted 05 December 2014 - 02:08 PM

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View PostAjsich, on 05 December 2014 - 01:55 PM, said:

I think that you guys are not quite right. It's not about PLAYERS fame points, but about CLANS fame points. :)

Nope. It's about player fame points. "Player Fame Points = Exp × E × T × Z × G" and this is that mystery G coefficient.

 

View PostNya_Chan, on 05 December 2014 - 02:01 PM, said:

 

Not like previous stages didn't have multipliers...

Yep and here they say, that those multipliers are there because of lower XP you can get compared to T10 battles. And bang, G cannot be lower than 1.5 - if both clans don't have provinces - landing tournament or they both have max 1, it's specifically stated that, N1 and N2 are 1 if clan doesn't have any provinces and clan 2 can be without any province only on landing.

If they wanted to make T10s more important take those multipliers from first 2 stages away.


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SanyaJuutilainen #9 Posted 05 December 2014 - 03:09 PM

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View PostManslayer, on 05 December 2014 - 02:08 PM, said:

Nope. It's about player fame points. "Player Fame Points = Exp × E × T × Z × G" and this is that mystery G coefficient.

 

Yep and here they say, that those multipliers are there because of lower XP you can get compared to T10 battles. And bang, G cannot be lower than 1.5 - if both clans don't have provinces - landing tournament or they both have max 1, it's specifically stated that, N1 and N2 are 1 if clan doesn't have any provinces and clan 2 can be without any province only on landing.

If they wanted to make T10s more important take those multipliers from first 2 stages away.

 

Not sure those are counted in landing tourneys, though it's possible... wonder if some mod can confirm.

But still, if you have 1.5 at T6 and 1.5 at T10, they have it the same, which is the point.

Manslayer #10 Posted 05 December 2014 - 03:17 PM

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View PostNya_Chan, on 05 December 2014 - 03:09 PM, said:

 

Not sure those are counted in landing tourneys, though it's possible... wonder if some mod can confirm.

But still, if you have 1.5 at T6 and 1.5 at T10, they have it the same, which is the point.

 

And 1.1 at T8, which is less... The point is though you would see from the start, that T6 won't be as important as in the 2nd campaign (at least for lesser clans). No, better solution is to tell players after half the campaign is gone. Typical WG.

CroPanzer #11 Posted 05 December 2014 - 03:42 PM

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Well, campagns aren't here to please lesser clans (they have strongholds for that), they are here to make some diversity on the top level of teamplay, and to add some context to tthe fighting.

They didn't intrudice T6 and 8 caps so the "worse" clans can participate, it was done so top clans have an additional challenge, as the gameplay is quite different on those tiers.



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View PostCroPanzer, on 05 December 2014 - 03:42 PM, said:

Well, campagns aren't here to please lesser clans (they have strongholds for that), they are here to make some diversity on the top level of teamplay, and to add some context to tthe fighting.

They didn't intrudice T6 and 8 caps so the "worse" clans can participate, it was done so top clans have an additional challenge, as the gameplay is quite different on those tiers.

 

Yeah and that is sure the reason why you have fame points and not top 30 clans go get the tank... :facepalm:

Ajsich #13 Posted 05 December 2014 - 03:55 PM

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I'm talking here about multipliers for PLAYER fame points which are specific for 3rd stage.

Danamic #14 Posted 05 December 2014 - 04:12 PM

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Yes... this is GG for alot of the medium level clans. 

 

Top clans will just plan battles between each other in order to push as much of their clan into top 11,000.



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WG did it again.. well couldnt expect anything else tho.

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View PostManslayer, on 05 December 2014 - 03:45 PM, said:

 

Yeah and that is sure the reason why you have fame points and not top 30 clans go get the tank... :facepalm:

 

I think you misunderstood what I meant to say: The point was that the campaign is for CW clans, not social clans, not platoon clans and not for stronghold clans, the main aim of the campaign is to make regular CW more vibrant and different, ergo clans that cannot usually play T10 cw don't really have to hope for anything special in the campaign, unless they really own in T6 and T8, but I think such clans are as rare as the Churchill GC doing epic games in randoms :trollface:

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View PostCroPanzer, on 05 December 2014 - 08:45 PM, said:

 

I think you misunderstood what I meant to say: The point was that the campaign is for CW clans, not social clans, not platoon clans and not for stronghold clans, the main aim of the campaign is to make regular CW more vibrant and different, ergo clans that cannot usually play T10 cw don't really have to hope for anything special in the campaign, unless they really own in T6 and T8, but I think such clans are as rare as the Churchill GC doing epic games in randoms :trollface:

 

I believe I understood quite good what you meant and yet I still disagree. I believe that campaing is as much for CW clans as for those not participating in regular CWs for whatever reason (skill, time, T10s in garage). As for hoping for sth special - I don't think anyone in their right mind can expect them to finish on top places in clan rating, but sure they can get some people on tank. I believe that's why there are coefficients on T6s and T8s - to make them more important for the end positioning, so not absolutely everything is decided on T10s. And yet WG comes with this "great" G coefficient that completely changes that.

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View PostManslayer, on 06 December 2014 - 12:28 AM, said:

 

I believe I understood quite good what you meant and yet I still disagree. I believe that campaing is as much for CW clans as for those not participating in regular CWs for whatever reason (skill, time, T10s in garage). As for hoping for sth special - I don't think anyone in their right mind can expect them to finish on top places in clan rating, but sure they can get some people on tank. I believe that's why there are coefficients on T6s and T8s - to make them more important for the end positioning, so not absolutely everything is decided on T10s. And yet WG comes with this "great" G coefficient that completely changes that.

 

Well, okay then, we agree to disagree.

They did change stuff with the G coefficient (which makes it more difficult for clans that play worse in T10 cw), but I think it is a natural change because of all the other stuff that is incoming (personal missions, and they even said they were considering stronghold events with tank rewards), so they're just trying to rearange how is stuff earned in the game.



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This whole campaign was a [edited]from the beginning.

 

If they communicated the rules ahead of time people would just tell you to sod off WG.


 

Now you have all the other clans pulling people with 3 or 4 evenings worth of play to the tank. People are joining said clans for money just to pull them to the tanks.


 

GG war gaming created a nice little RMT scheme right there. Basically we did not have to even play tier 6 and 8. and still be at about same position as now.






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