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undtctd #221 Posted 10 August 2011 - 07:38 PM

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I'd say if there's really an issue then imo penetration buff for e-50 would be the best option. Why? Cmon maybe you can't do the same with those 2 tanks but t54 is priceless for brawling, it's so damn fun tank, leave it as it is. And if you really need to do exactly what other t54s are capable of, then get one for yourself, simple as that, but don't make every tank similar. That's actually good thing when tanks differ. It's rather UNIQUE, not op.

And I'd like to mention that especially now, after german revision russian meds line is pure pain when you compare to german. I'm really sick of idiot-gun (300 battles @ IS, and now again @ t34-85) ;( Real grind starts from 4th tier usually so imo: a20<pz3, t34>pzIII/IV, t3485<vk3601h (a little), t43<<panther, t44<pantherII, and finally t54~~e50.

Other's thoughts may differ but generally there's way to much rant about t54 and whole russian op-ness. I thought they're best too, since then I almost grinded IS4 and t43 and I encourage everyone to try and see for your own eyes, fell that pain of damn inacurate, ghostshelling, slowrealoading d25 and d10t which you are stuck with for so looooooong.

No offence intended at any point. But think for one more time, do you really want t54 gone? Do you really want to loose the only unique t9-leo in this game? If devs nerf it, you won't be able to get it for yourself which is an option aswell at the moment.

enu_ #222 Posted 10 August 2011 - 07:40 PM

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well Patton has better gun and yes view range is very important. and E-50 has more health (more than IS-4) and more precise gun

Galm1 #223 Posted 11 August 2011 - 12:28 AM

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View Postillidan, on 10 August 2011 - 07:40 PM, said:

well Patton has better gun and yes view range is very important. and E-50 has more health (more than IS-4) and more precise gun
You quite forgot the armor there, as much armor as T-54 has on the front and 100mm on the sides iirc. Not to talk about the higher penetration and alpha strike on the 105mm (E-50, that is).

BigBadVuk #224 Posted 11 August 2011 - 11:48 AM

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Too much tension in this topic.
Instead to go and give you  Ro by Ro i will be nice and ask you all to calm down, address other members with respect and to avoid flame and trolling..
Next who says anything that even looks over the line will be sanctioned hard.That is the only way to keep this flammable topic alive.
Alternate is to close it right away - it is up to you ppl.


trispect #225 Posted 11 August 2011 - 12:27 PM

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View PostBigBadVuk, on 11 August 2011 - 11:48 AM, said:

Too much tension in this topic.
Instead to go and give you  Ro by Ro i will be nice and ask you all to calm down, address other members with respect and to avoid flame and trolling..
Next who says anything that even looks over the line will be sanctioned hard.That is the only way to keep this flammable topic alive.
Alternate is to close it right away - it is up to you ppl.


Should have been closed since it was opened. Nothing good can come from opening post like this...

Capamaru #226 Posted 11 August 2011 - 01:21 PM

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I would like to know how many of the people that think that T-54 is OP actually own one. Everything is OP until you own one and then the grass is greener on the neighbors garden. Mods can I create a poll and you then merge it with this topic?

Blueray #227 Posted 11 August 2011 - 09:28 PM

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cmon dudes dont lie urself we all know t54 is OP.. dont say me that russ. meds are weak and thats why t54 is a reward... german meds, usa meds are also crap but did u see any big reward`.. just nerf t54 thats all..

trispect #228 Posted 11 August 2011 - 10:16 PM

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View PostBlueray, on 11 August 2011 - 09:28 PM, said:

cmon dudes dont lie urself we all know t54 is OP.. dont say me that russ. meds are weak and thats why t54 is a reward... german meds, usa meds are also crap but did u see any big reward`.. just nerf t54 thats all..

Pls mods, close the thread already...

Dusmoz #229 Posted 11 August 2011 - 10:17 PM

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Fought Patton today with T-54 today. He had 75% HP, I had 100%. It was one on one brawl. I had to hit him 4 times to die, he hit me 2 times and I lost 50% HP.

With D-54 I can penetrate T-54s front hull 4 times of 5 up to 100 m. E-50 has the same 120 mm front plate. Up to 100 m I can penetrate 2 of 5 times. I have peashooter with curved barrel compared to it's top gun.

Yes nerf T-54 to hell, it's god tank especially with new IX mediums recently introduced.  <_<

Galm1 #230 Posted 12 August 2011 - 12:50 AM

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View Postdusmoz, on 11 August 2011 - 10:17 PM, said:

Fought Patton today with T-54 today. He had 75% HP, I had 100%. It was one on one brawl. I had to hit him 4 times to die, he hit me 2 times and I lost 50% HP.

With D-54 I can penetrate T-54s front hull 4 times of 5 up to 100 m. E-50 has the same 120 mm front plate. Up to 100 m I can penetrate 2 of 5 times. I have peashooter with curved barrel compared to it's top gun.

Yes nerf T-54 to hell, it's god tank especially with new IX mediums recently introduced.  <_<

T5E1M2,
Avg Penetration: 218/263/53
Avg Damage: 390/390/480
Acc: 0.37
ROF: 7.69 RPM
Aim time: 2 s

D-54
Avg Penetration: 219/293/50
Avg Damage: 320/320/420
Acc: 0.34
ROF: 8.4
Aim time: 2.5s

Other nations get the best all around guns and they still want T-54 to be nerfed. It's already been nerfed to the point it's a mere scout, aka gtfo to anyone wanting T-54 nerfed even more.

Conshook #231 Posted 12 August 2011 - 08:18 AM

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View Posttrispect, on 11 August 2011 - 12:27 PM, said:

Should have been closed since it was opened. Nothing good can come from opening post like this...

Well, it is always interesting to comment and read others comments. And as I have been written in this topic before I say it now again in other words: This is life. One likes the mother and the other likes the daughter and so on. One good thing in WoT is that  you have the option just to grind the tank you want.  Just grind yourself all the meds and then you can drive the best ones. That's what I do. I have now E-50 in elite status and soon I will have T-54 in elite status. And of course I am grinding the American tree also. And I can already research Perching.

So this my post is only to say that WoT is a free open world. If one things that some tank is over powered so take it and use it and benefit from that. In my gaming I use the tanks that I happen to like at that time. You know that sometimes you just want to play arty and sometime you like Ferdi and so on.

But the bottom like is. We must not close topics like this. Let us allow all opinions to fly and let us give anybody the freedom of posting. But let us respect all opinions and let us give respect to all writers and their opinions no matter what our personal opinion is.







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