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Tic #41 Posted 13 July 2011 - 12:53 PM

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It's hard to protect arty from t-54, they are fast, resilient and pack a punch. Maybe cause of that we can say it's OP... maybe not :D

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View PostSamoleta, on 13 July 2011 - 12:41 PM, said:

i don`t know, are you some kind of psyho medium? i can bet your brain is elephant brain if you can detect hidden voices, developers do their job perfect and i don`t think people are happy if some forum worm like you speak from their position. It`s just a game live with it, if you can`t play it better whine here in the forum but don`t insult people anymore ! This forum is the place when people make conversation and explain their views, if you are not agree you can simple say it, no need to insult other people becouse they are not in your side of view about tanks. Grow up and have a nice day, i will not answering you anymore becouse its no need of it.

When you make a stupid argument based on nothing supporting yourself then you sir are the kid that needs to grow up.
Also it helps to be "constructive" which you seem to have lacked through all of your posts on this topic other then just basic QQ.

BTW I love your insults they seem very .... different ^^

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This forum is the place when people make conversation and explain their views, if you are not agree you can simple say it, no need to insult other people becouse they are not in your side of view about tanks

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well play with german medium line and you will see where is the pain.. panther is paper tank not t-43.. everyone 4 tier and above broke module or kill crew EVERY SHOOT... i know t-44 ammo rack problem but i got 3 bounced with t30 on this t-44.. so don`t complain this tank is weak. Its just politic and sponsorship with t-54. Its not balanced its OVER OP atm, and everyone that not understand it i can say a friendly HELLO ....

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"Its not balanced its OVER OP atm, and everyone that not understand it i can say a friendly HELLO ...."


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MadInAShed #43 Posted 13 July 2011 - 01:12 PM

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I have a T54, its a fun tank, though i dont feel OP when driving it, quite the opposite in fact as it seems the old pre nerf T54 is what people remember so they see me and target me first because they think i am the biggest threat and while yes stuff does bounce (mostly off the front) a lot of stuff also rips into me.

I suppose it is a very subjective issue, as when i am going against T54s they always seem stronger and harder hitting than mine.

It may well be that old thing of tanks always seem stronger when you are against them than when you are driving them! (come on, we have all been there?)

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View PostMadInAShed, on 13 July 2011 - 01:12 PM, said:

I suppose it is a very subjective issue, as when i am going against T54s they always seem stronger and harder hitting than mine.

It may well be that old thing of tanks always seem stronger when you are against them than when you are driving them! (come on, we have all been there?)

From my experience there're a awfull lot of players shooting gold ammo even in random games which makes their punch harder for an obvious reason. Everything else is aiming for the right spot and how you position yourself against them.

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As a King Tiger driver I feel like I must point out that by hitting a T54 on the tracks it becomes relatively vulnerable.
At least beta players tend to unite on killing those things once their tracks are down.

Is T54 better than the 2 other mediums of it's tier? Absolutely.
Does this means it should be nerfed? Absolutely not, it means that the two others are too weak. I've never seen a Panther2 or a Patton on a serious clan match.
Frankly the T54 is the only medium that's good enough to be used in clan wars.

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View Postandrijas, on 11 July 2011 - 10:42 PM, said:

arty has big guns and great aiming system, but it also has to have a weakness.... imo it's balanced

great aiming system??? do you have played gw tiger? i think, no... 6 sec. aiming time is not good against t54

Strongback #47 Posted 13 July 2011 - 06:45 PM

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View Postsven6661978, on 13 July 2011 - 06:20 PM, said:

great aiming system??? do you have played gw tiger? i think, no... 6 sec. aiming time is not good against t54

More like great lottery system lol

ExpendableHero #48 Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:55 PM

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t54 is the most overpowered tank of it's class and tier in the game. It just has too many advantages with no weaknesses. Pretty soon this game will need to be called World of Russian Tanks because everyone else will have left the game.

UltraViking #49 Posted 14 July 2011 - 01:50 AM

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View Postz4ndm4n, on 12 July 2011 - 12:20 PM, said:

Obvious troll is obvious... don´t feed him.

Which part of this quoted post did you guys NOT read ? seriously stop feeding the troll with his favorite food.  When will you ever learn to recognize the trolls ...

mil71 #50 Posted 14 July 2011 - 02:28 AM

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Simple words.

Shoot the tracks.

There I scaled it down to the simplest grammar I could.

BBQigniter #51 Posted 14 July 2011 - 06:01 AM

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View PostGalm1, on 12 July 2011 - 12:08 AM, said:

Sure, remove arty's UAVs and you can nerf T-54.
PS: PII is as fast as T-54 but no one complains of it.

yeah, because the P2 can be hurt quick and easy. T54 bounces lots of shots because of its superiour shape. besides T54 is a real close range beast and P2 is more the "stay away from close range battles" sniper

sutyomatic #52 Posted 14 July 2011 - 03:25 PM

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View Postillidan, on 12 July 2011 - 09:23 PM, said:

they raised T54 for 15cm and P2 height (overall size) was reduced

Yet I think the Panther II is still larger then the Panther isn't it? Same chassis with thicker more armor in the same size it should be.

Could someone park a Panther and it's big bro next to each other?

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View PostHornet331, on 13 July 2011 - 12:06 AM, said:

ANd maus still barly can hit it when a t54 dedides to park on its sides... the so called nerfs whre a joke... but yeah if you call giving it a 700hp engine (instead of a 680) for only 500 more kg is also a very big nerf....
well that's problem with Maus size, not T-54 :)

sumpurnis #54 Posted 15 July 2011 - 11:31 AM

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This is all I can say about the topic (common situation in RU server, which is where I play):

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At that point there's nothing to do for arty and sometimes at some point even for heavies (German and US heavies especially) ...

Ashnak #55 Posted 16 July 2011 - 08:03 PM

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Having just been shot up (again) by a seemingly invincible T-54, I looked this tank up
on Wikipedia. In every conflict the T-54 was involved in, if  facing other tanks it was
roundly defeated. How is it that such a crap tank is depicted as being so good in the game?

TheDOD #56 Posted 16 July 2011 - 11:18 PM

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View Postgobi, on 12 July 2011 - 03:18 PM, said:

The T54 is russian, it will never be nerfed.
More likely to be buffed if anything..
wargaming.net is half British Half Belarus company (http://en.wikipedia....i/Wargaming.net) so STFU with that Russian Tanks never get Nerfed. Don't want any angry replies back.

Back on toppic. What about Amerikan T7+ heavys? They have giant armor that no one can penetrate. U have to hit there Hull. And this is pretty hard to do i close combat

TheDOD #57 Posted 16 July 2011 - 11:19 PM

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View PostAshnak, on 16 July 2011 - 08:03 PM, said:

Having just been shot up (again) by a seemingly invincible T-54, I looked this tank up
on Wikipedia. In every conflict the T-54 was involved in, if  facing other tanks it was
roundly defeated. How is it that such a crap tank is depicted as being so good in the game?
Because the T-54/55 was only in battle against Abraham M1A1. Than it's 100% sure that it was doomed

Ashnak #58 Posted 17 July 2011 - 10:32 AM

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View PostTheDOD, on 16 July 2011 - 11:19 PM, said:

Because the T-54/55 was only in battle against Abraham M1A1. Than it's 100% sure that it was doomed
Acording to Wikipedia, the T-54/55 saw active sevice during the invasion of Hungary (a few destroyed by Molotov cocktails),
the Six Day War (defeated by Israeli Pattons, Shermans and Centurions), the Yom Kippur War (same result) and the Vietnam
War (16 T44s lost by the NVA in one day, in battle against Pattons of the ARVN), as well as several other conflicts.
Not a good service record - and matching them against Tha Abrams M1A1 (not to mention the Challenger II) ... they were
indeed doomed.

Vendelin #59 Posted 17 July 2011 - 11:25 AM

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t54 is how a medium tank should look like
its ridiculously OP compared to other t9 mediums, but its well balanced against t9 heavys

solution? buff up Panther II and Patton

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View PostAshnak, on 17 July 2011 - 10:32 AM, said:

Acording to Wikipedia, the T-54/55 saw active sevice during the invasion of Hungary (a few destroyed by Molotov cocktails),
the Six Day War (defeated by Israeli Pattons, Shermans and Centurions), the Yom Kippur War (same result) and the Vietnam
War (16 T44s lost by the NVA in one day, in battle against Pattons of the ARVN), as well as several other conflicts.
Not a good service record - and matching them against Tha Abrams M1A1 (not to mention the Challenger II) ... they were
indeed doomed.
Basicly all old Tanks could be destroyed by Molotov Coctail. Tiger 1 was one of them. During Battle of Kusk Russian used Vodka nad other strong alcohol, ignitede them and Destroyd Tigers.

Still 200mm armor is real. 2'nd most of the Tansks in WOT is from WW2. And T54/55 is from 1955.


BTW When was the Six days war?




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