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What equipment do you use on the T14?

  1. Improved Ventilation Class 3 (189 votes [25.61%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.61%

  2. Toolbox (28 votes [3.79%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.79%

  3. Large Spall Liner (32 votes [4.34%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.34%

  4. Enhanced Gun Laying Drive (156 votes [21.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.14%

  5. Coated Optics (28 votes [3.79%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.79%

  6. Binocular Telescope (26 votes [3.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.52%

  7. Medium-Caliber Tank Gun Rammer (231 votes [31.30%])

    Percentage of vote: 31.30%

  8. Wet Ammo Rack (10 votes [1.36%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.36%

  9. Camouflage Net (22 votes [2.98%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.98%

  10. None (16 votes [2.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.17%

What Consumables do you use on the T14?

  1. Large Repair Kit (38 votes [4.99%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.99%

  2. Large First Aid Kit (29 votes [3.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.81%

  3. Case of Cola (4 votes [0.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.52%

  4. Automatic Fire Extinguishers (47 votes [6.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.17%

  5. 105-Octane Gasoline (2 votes [0.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.26%

  6. 100-Octane Gasoline (10 votes [1.31%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.31%

  7. Small Repair Kit (222 votes [29.13%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.13%

  8. Small First Aid Kit (213 votes [27.95%])

    Percentage of vote: 27.95%

  9. Manual Fire Extinguisher (180 votes [23.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.62%

  10. None (17 votes [2.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.23%

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Charcharo #1 Posted 13 July 2011 - 03:30 PM

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Hello!
We are looking at the T14 heavy premium tank. It’s a heavy assault battle brick that can only be purchased with gold and is actually an up-armored Sherman. Being a Tier 5 premium it can easily make you a decent amount of money, though not comparable to T8 premiums.

Tank specs:
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Module tree:
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Overview:
The T14, being a premium tank, is better than a stock T5 heavy but worse than a fully upgraded T5 heavy.  Thankfully, it has a better matchmaker than most T5 heavies.
Its firepower is not all that impressive. It only has a premium version of the M3 Lee upgraded gun. Penetration is enough for the weak spots of most T5 and even T6 tanks, but only under good conditions. It can at least make short work of lower tier vehicles though, and the HE can 1-shot most T4 artillery. Also, the accuracy is quite bad, which makes aiming at weak spots harder but the aim time does somewhat make up for it. Really helpful is also the truly good gun depression.
It has thick and sloped frontal armor, thick side and rear armor (making the artificial-sloping tactic very useful), accelerates well but isn’t all that good at maneuvering. It also features a good radio and bad view range.
Price: 1500 gold
Camouflage: Decent

Pros:
-Great all-around armor.
-Good rate of fire.
-Good money-making abilities.
-A great bully to smaller tanks.
-Good acceleration.
Cons:
-Bad penetration.
-Bad accuracy.
-Turns like a beached U-boat.

Designation:
1. Warrior  2. Steel Wall  3. Medium Support

Crew:
1. Commander Posted Image
2. Gunner Posted Image
3. Driver Posted Image
4. Radio Operator Posted Image
5. Loader Posted Image

Modules

Hull:
Armor schemes currently in use:
NONE FOUND YET
51/50/50
The hull is unique because it has the same thickness on all sides and is very well sloped. Even the side and rear are somewhat sloped and have parts made with the advanced skirt type (spaced)armour, meaning its relatively hard to track and takes less HE damage. These skirts also make HEAT and HESH shells less likey to penetrate. 
The front is also sloped at 65 degrees... that is close to auto bounce and may simply ricochet even high penetration guns.

The armour layout allows the user to become semi-immortal to T4-5 tanks by artificially sloping themselves even more. Techniques like the sidescraper can be used to bonce even tier 6 vehicles.

Suspension:
T-14 / Max capacity 49.8 / Turn speed 20 deg per second
Nice capacity, but bad turning speed. Engine compensates it though.

Engine:
Ford GAC – 720 h.p. – 20% chance of fire
Surprisingly, this engine is very powerful on the T14 and makes it one of the fastest heavy tanks both in acceleration and keeping speed with its 15.01 horse power per ton. They just don’t make bricks like these anymore.

Radio:
SCR 508/1 – range 650 m
This is a great radio for its tier.

Turrets:
T-14
Armor 101/101/101
Rotation 30 deg/sec.
View range 380 m

This is a good well-armored turret, that coupled with the decent gun depression can allow you to go hull-down.

Guns:
75mm Gun M3L/37 RoF: 15,77
Penetration: 92/127/38
Average damage: 110/110/175
Accuracy (100m): 0,46
Aim time: 2,06 sec
Same as the M3 Lee upgraded (unfortunately it isn’t researched for the M3 if you have the T14) which is not good… you will have problems killing Hetzers and Leopards and other shermans. PZ4s and T-34s don’t seem too hard. PZ ¾ will bounce sometimes. Other heavy tanks like the KV-1 and T1 heavy aren't an easy target, so be careful. They can be penetrated, but only at their weak spots.

Comparison with its peers:
T14 vs Churchill Lend-Lease
The Churchill has more armoured strong points but also more weakspots. The T14 almost has no real weak spots.

Historical T14
The Assault Tank T14 was a joint project between the United States and the United Kingdom. The T14 tank was supposed to be a design that was to be shared by both countries to give an infantry tank for British use.
The tank design would have a 6 pdr or a US 75 mm gun sharing many parts with the M4 Sherman, but with armor twice as thick as that of the M4 at 100 mm thick. The British initially ordered 8,500 in 1942.
The pilot model was not produced by 1944, by which time the British Churchill tank had been in service for two years and was greatly improved over it's initial model. The T14 project never came to fruition. US efforts of working on a similarly well-armored tank with a higher speed for use other than as infantry support led to the T20 tank.

Suggestions to the developers:
-Buff accuracy to 0,45.
-Buff turn speed.


Edited by Charcharo, 31 March 2014 - 03:30 PM.


Arkhell #2 Posted 13 July 2011 - 03:54 PM

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fun fact.

it might turn slow but you can still outrun a KV-2 bucket turret...

in tier 5 battles this thing is a real menace if played propperly and with the HE you can troll a lot of high tiers in higher tier battles :)

shnbwmn #3 Posted 13 July 2011 - 04:00 PM

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Best thing of T14 is that they often drive mindlessly through enemy and take shots into the air. The best tank to play against!!

Charcharo #4 Posted 13 July 2011 - 04:01 PM

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View Postshnbwmn, on 13 July 2011 - 04:00 PM, said:

Best thing of T14 is that they often drive mindlessly through enemy and take shots into the air. The best tank to play against!!
You must have never seen someone at least half-decent in a T14  :Smile_harp:

shnbwmn #5 Posted 13 July 2011 - 04:17 PM

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View PostCharcharo, on 13 July 2011 - 04:01 PM, said:

You must have never seen someone at least half-decent in a T14  :Smile_harp:

That's the problem, every T14 i see does exactly the same. And I've seen many T14s. So there are very few good t14 drivers.

Maximillian #6 Posted 14 July 2011 - 12:01 AM

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I dont really think they need to fix anything with it, the problem is I think they rolled it back up a tier in matchmaking. When its properly tiered its alot of fun to drive :Smile_honoring: I have decent results in my 14, even if I did better back in CB.

Charcaro, very good post, just have to add one thing: angle the amor. If you are in a tight spot, angling it slightly will help you defect alot more than you normally would.

If you have to fight a kv close up, dont circle it like in a fast tank, you go for the rear at an angle. This way you can keep your speed up, and keep ahead of the turret. With the high rate of fire you can take advantage of it. Dont try to outturn it like you would in a medium, the less you have to turn the better :Smile-izmena:

quinch1199 #7 Posted 14 July 2011 - 12:32 PM

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Good article. Have to say I like my T14 almost as much as my PzIV!!

One point on the Kv's. The SAME weakspots you can pick out with say the MarderII are just as good for the T14 as it has really good accuracy, main point to aim at is the turret join (where it joins the main body). If you find yourself head-to-head with a KV..always, always try to get that point if you can't get to the sides of him.

Always try to engage at range as well, in a similar fashion to using the PzIV, you don't want to get in a close range brawl with a KV.

Take advantage of your accuracy over their in-accuracy!

I've also found that if you can get into a hull down position on a map (not many maps allow this but some have those nice furrows in the ground), if you move up the enemy facing side but stop before your belly shows...you essentially create a near horizontal plain for your frontal armour and can still fire at the enemy as you have great gun depression.

This tank take skill to use and win with but it can be done and you can get good results.

Point on the "often drive mindlessly through enemy and take shots into the air"...in a Tier 5 battle you CAN often do this (though not the firing into the air thing) and it works VERY well to break the enemy formation, focus and take 3 enemy out. Only, of course, to be done if your side has back-up (a couple of KV's for example) and only if a stalemate occurs.

That said, I've done this and got SCOUT medals for it in the past, taken out primary enemy tanks AND their artillery on the way. As with many tactics, its situational.

patton4ever #8 Posted 18 July 2011 - 03:19 PM

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in terms of free xp is the t14 better than ram2 ?

Maximillian #9 Posted 19 July 2011 - 11:05 PM

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No, they are about on the same level(unless its changed since beta), wich one you prefer is alot down to preference, because they are not really that dissimilar. I had both and I preferred the 14, but had buddies that loved the ram.

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View PostCharcharo, on 13 July 2011 - 03:30 PM, said:

Important: Every premium tank has a little known feature- you can retrain its crew to another U.S medium tank without loosing ANY experience. Thus, T14 can be an excellent trainer for the U.S. Heavy Tank crew’s.

Where is this feature noticed? Does it mean, that I can use my elite-Löwe-crew in my rather new Tiger I without a experience penalty? And does this works back also (e.g. from Tiger to Löwe)?

Thank you also for your excellent analysing tank-threads!

Trokhon #11 Posted 01 August 2011 - 04:59 PM

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View PostAnaxagoras, on 21 July 2011 - 01:19 PM, said:

Where is this feature noticed? Does it mean, that I can use my elite-Löwe-crew in my rather new Tiger I without a experience penalty? And does this works back also (e.g. from Tiger to Löwe)?


I would like to know this too? I tried but my crew got reduced by 10%

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View PostAnaxagoras, on 21 July 2011 - 01:19 PM, said:

Does it mean, that I can use my elite-Löwe-crew in my rather new Tiger I without a experience penalty? And does this works back also (e.g. from Tiger to Löwe)?
It only works the other way and only with the same vehicle type, e.g. heavy tank. You can use a crew trained for any U.S. heavy on the T14 and they have no performance penalty, but a T14-crew will have a penalty when used on, for example, a T1 Heavy.

Fediuld #13 Posted 24 August 2011 - 03:05 PM

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Hi I would like to ask how's the tank as money maker?
Better than a Sherman E8? (from what people say is very good at it).

I mainly drive German tanks, 3001H, PZ4, Tiger P, Panther I and while they do make money (Panther I and PZ4) but not a lot, even with premium acc.

Tuccy #14 Posted 13 September 2011 - 09:17 AM

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I take T14 every time I feel a bit masochistic, same as M4A2E4 ;)

If it is top tier, it can be a best, but suffers the fate of most Premium tanks of having only so-so gun for their tier, meaning that among higher tier tanks it has to resort to desperate measures.

All in all it can be fun or frustrating.

I would like Premium tanks to be upgradeable in a limited fashion (say in Ram to switch between 2pdr and 6pdr with matchmaking consequences), so that I can have both US prototype (75mm M3) and a British one (6pdr) :)

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I don''t know why WOT named the t 14 't14'. I think the real name was JUMBO ( that's a more protected sherman). That''s actually what the t 14 is.

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View Postmarcospyjetpack, on 13 September 2011 - 09:33 PM, said:

I don''t know why WOT named the t 14 't14'. I think the real name was JUMBO ( that's a more protected sherman). That''s actually what the t 14 is.
Nope, it isn't.
"Jumbo" is M4A3E2 Sherman, with thicker front hull armor and new turret:
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T14 assault tank was an infantry tank using Sherman power train, with a completely different hull and significantly different turret:
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Xarper #17 Posted 25 September 2011 - 03:25 AM

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I always thought this thing had good front armor, but the stats indicate that it's thin ?

Can it bounce AP up to tier 4 ?

Xarper #18 Posted 28 September 2011 - 01:07 AM

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The curse of the pinned threads, noone sees them when "bumped"   <_<

Cpl_Hicks #19 Posted 28 September 2011 - 01:08 PM

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It can bounce and it can take some punishment. Once, I got 'steel wall' on it in a tier 7 match (enemy tanks ranging from M3 Lee to 2x T29, our tanks from Pz III to T29/IS), survived 16 hits with 27 hp left, both tracks damaged and crew unharmed (we won that match 15-6)

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I think it was asked above, but how is the t14 as a money-maker?
For example, without premium, with pz4 and hummel, in a good match you can make more or less 20k credits, and normally 10k.
What is the best and average income of t14?





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