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Gkirmathal #41 Posted 31 December 2015 - 11:15 AM

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I do not know why, but I can no longer make this pos of a tank work or stand it. Especially since I am back from a long 4 month wot sabbatical.

 

I have tried for a year to adjust to the 9.6 dispersion adjustment with this tank, but by the love of all things holy I cannot get my grips with it anymore. In raw gameplay I seem to be 'out aimed' and 'out shot in accuracy' by almost anything, especially similar 100mm armored machines newly introduced since 9.6. Barely able to make the machines hp worth of damage nowadays.

To those who will mention the turret armor is fine indeed it is, if you can find a situation to use it, otherwise the need to over expose your hull to get any fully-aimed shots of and then still miss by a mile kills it for me.

 

Too bad the 34-2 ain't anything better either from what I found out on the test server in the days.



tnk_x5000 #42 Posted 31 December 2015 - 12:29 PM

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Don't rely on the accuracy of the gun, it is the second most inaccurate top gun you can mount on a tier 7 medium. One thing is to try hiding in bushes to have time to aim. The other option is to always move with other tanks and shoot distracted enemies in short to medium ranges from behind allies and bumps covering your chassis. Yes, this tank can't really play regular medium very well. You will have to rely on turret armor and shape, camouflage. and tank size.

 

Recently, me and an IS were able to beat two Tiger I tanks in close range, while I was mostly provoking shots while in hull-down behind a bump. I was able to make a total of 6 penetrating shots in the Tiger I tanks, while the IS took the opportunities between the enemies' shots.



Gkirmathal #43 Posted 31 December 2015 - 03:54 PM

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tnk_x5000, indeed I'm not relying on it anymore. Although the new map meta makes it very hard, for me at least, to make it work properly. Like you mention, with good support it still can have it's moments. Although it will never be what it was pre 9.6 though.

 

For me the things that killed the tank was the mainly distribution adjustment, subsequent release of the buffed D10T (9.7) for only the the IS-1 and more recently the 34/100 with same 100mm as said IS-1 soft stats.



Hyina #44 Posted 31 December 2015 - 03:56 PM

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Lol. This thing is easily one of the best t7s around and the highlight of the Chinese med tree.

 

Insane turret that can bounce T30s, punchy gun for a t7 with good alpha, great camo. What more would you guys want?



Gkirmathal #45 Posted 31 December 2015 - 05:24 PM

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To me the T20 (and from what I've seen 34/100) is better atm. Though it also has, like most tier 7 meds, things that imo need to be addressed.

 

I'd like to see the D10T t7 100mm, and it's clones, be even out on all tanks that use it. So either the improved stats which were introduced with the KV-85/ release, or the old stats the original D10T had as per 34-1.

The two versions maintained by WG have, in my opinion, just too a big a gulf in performance between them.

The above, or: give it the ability to mount vstabs.

 

But the above is not just about this, it is about balance in this game in general or the lack of sometimes in some tiers. As I said just my opinion :)


Edited by Gkirmathal, 31 December 2015 - 05:27 PM.


tnk_x5000 #46 Posted 01 January 2016 - 11:28 AM

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I kinda think that more accuracy for the tank may prove to be a bit too much. The tank is already one of the smallest tanks in tier 5+, making its camouflage values quite high. Imagine this tank shooting at you at long range, good luck spotting it. More mobility would make the tank a pretty nice little tier 7 medium.

Gkirmathal #47 Posted 01 January 2016 - 01:17 PM

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View Posttnk_x5000, on 01 January 2016 - 10:28 AM, said:

I kinda think that more accuracy for the tank may prove to be a bit too much. The tank is already one of the smallest tanks in tier 5+, making its camouflage values quite high. Imagine this tank shooting at you at long range, good luck spotting it. More mobility would make the tank a pretty nice little tier 7 medium.

 

What I had in mind, was something in the range of 0.41 accuracy with an aimtime of 2.8(or 2.7)?

 

Take the first number, those are not that stellar nor OP. It will still have issues at hitting at range, as 0.41 is still bad and aim would still be longish.

But in my opinion, having played it 400+ games pre and post 9.6, it would just make the package a little more balanced vs all the new stuff that has been released since the Chinese buff in 8.7.

(Ofc. the 34-2 still needs to be looked at)

 

The T20 on the other hand, imo, could use a little buff in terrain resistance or rof of +0.1. But that an other discussion, as all t7 need to be addressed one way or the other :p

 

 



bubo_bubo #48 Posted 27 January 2016 - 01:32 AM

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Why is this a Tier 7 medium tank? 85mm gun has  terrible gun performance. 100mm gun has the howitzer gun performance and I've seen better howitzers on lower tier tanks.

The gun depression doesn't exist on either of the tanks, the aimtime is horrible on all of them, the accuracy is nothing to write home about, the bloom might as well be that of an arty, the tank has speed but no mobility, the fuel tank, tracks and the tracks share one same space and are all as fragile as a paper thin glass...

It's garbage, from top to bottom this tank is garbage and is only for for Tier 6. Cut down it's HP to Tier 6 MT level and it will still be outperformed by other Tier 6 mediums. That's how bad this.... thing... is.

A bloody WZ-131 with the smaller gun will perform better in Tier 10 rounds than this stupid garbage! Burn it! Throw it away!

I loved the WT-131 and 132, I Loved the WZ-130 and I loved the 121, but T-34-1 is one of the biggest pilles of dung I have ever played, right behind the Douchebagwaggon.

 

GOD! And I still have 55.000exp left before I can sell it! Why does it need 100.000exp to finish? THIS GARBAGE! GARBAGE!!


Edited by bubo_bubo, 27 January 2016 - 01:36 AM.


dennez #49 Posted 27 January 2016 - 12:06 PM

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Used to love it.. Sold it after the accuracy nerf that left it unplayable garbage.. T20 all the way now, though i really miss the troll turret and the cute looks of the 34-1.

Akathis #50 Posted 29 January 2016 - 12:45 AM

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Sold today: unplayable. Gun handling is almost as frustrating as that of t49. Simply unbelievable.

Shacou #51 Posted 29 January 2016 - 01:10 AM

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They should either buff accuracy or reduce aiming time/bloom values drasticly. It's really heartbreaking when you're doing your best at using it's cammo, aiming all day long just to see your shot fly to crows instead at the target you were aiming. Sometimes gameplay gets unpredictable and you really have no time to aim, by the time your circle manages shrink down, enemy is already avaible to put in second shot in you. It just doesen't excel anywhere anymore, you need to play slowly and coutiously, almost like with a light tank, avoid getting detected, since gun handling doesen't allow you to play otherway. But good luck with corridor meta. It used to be a lovely vehicle indeed. I think it should get similar 100mm gun handling values like on T-34-2.

Edited by Shacou, 29 January 2016 - 01:12 AM.


dennez #52 Posted 29 January 2016 - 09:12 AM

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View PostAkathis, on 29 January 2016 - 12:45 AM, said:

Sold today: unplayable. Gun handling is almost as frustrating as that of t49. Simply unbelievable.

 

Ikr.. Gun handling used to be crappy, but it snapshotted like a boss (IS-6 like). Now you just have to sit back and aim.. aim.. aim.. miss..

Gkirmathal #53 Posted 29 January 2016 - 02:58 PM

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I agree with most! Acc or aimtime should be addressed OR it should get VStabs.

 

Beware though. There are a few folks here, who think it is all fine and dandy due to the turret being the most situational redeeming factor of this tank.

Though the need to get in close for it to work, which then makes the gun acc/aim time irrelevant, makes this maneuver not a piece of cake like some deem it to be vs a lot of same and higher tiered stuff IMO. Finding any workable hull down position vs -5 gp, also is not a piece of cake nowadays due to map designs.

 

I am keeping it though, in the hope it and more Chineese tanks, get addressed in any future patches.


Edited by Gkirmathal, 29 January 2016 - 02:59 PM.


pudelikael #54 Posted 15 February 2016 - 09:15 AM

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One game is good but 5 game is bad and lost. This tank will not win games

31% WR this tank. Autoloaders kill this tank very easily.


Edited by p6kk, 15 February 2016 - 09:16 AM.


ZedTiger #55 Posted 06 April 2016 - 12:16 PM

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Played for the first time yesterday... what a shock - atrocious gun handling.

Hedgehog1963 #56 Posted 06 April 2016 - 02:11 PM

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Ground through mine in 83 battles with a 55% WR. My global WR in MTs is 49% so it's obvious I got on with this little beast.

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Gkirmathal #57 Posted 11 April 2016 - 10:45 PM

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Been giving my 34-1 a chance again, now that my T20 seems cursed (unable to shoot ~1k dmg in 70% of the games somehow).

 

So MOE's this thing, how hard is to get them? Been stuck on ~74.9% for ages and they just barley creep up. Do I really need 2k average dpg, or something, to reach 85%?

 

 

edit: ps forget it now the MOE's on this thing are going down the drain, unable to shoot atleast 800 dmg each game for a few in a row already...ffs


Edited by Gkirmathal, 12 April 2016 - 09:47 AM.


Procrastes #58 Posted 20 April 2016 - 08:21 AM

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Yesterday I played my T-34-1 for the first time in a long while, and of all the shots I fired, only one hit.

And I still ended up fifth best on earned xp, due to spotting damage alone.

 

Yes, the aim time and accuracy is bad. But I can work with that; at least I don't get my head turret shot off every time I poke it up over a ridge, which is what happens when I drive my T20; that thing has no turret armour at all. This makes scouting far more rewarding in the T-34-1; not only can you survive spotting over a ridge, but you can also make the enemy waste a shot or two.

 

I would welcome a few degrees better gun depression on the T-34-1, the same kind of buff the T-34-3 recently got. Other than that, I really enjoy this little Chinese opportunist spotter/killer!


Edited by Procrastes, 20 April 2016 - 08:31 AM.


pudelikael #59 Posted 22 April 2016 - 09:48 AM

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This is worst tank in the game. 

China's central line does not make sense at all developed. Immediately go to the light tanks line.


Edited by p6kk, 22 April 2016 - 09:53 AM.


Gkirmathal #60 Posted 22 April 2016 - 11:08 AM

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Still I wonder one thing: what if WG would give it the ability to use Vertical Stabilizer (no other changes). How much less trollish would it's 100mm become? Would it then become OP-ish or just more comfortable and better overall?

Edited by Gkirmathal, 22 April 2016 - 11:08 AM.





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