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A-43: the worst tier6 medium avaible?

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Skrotonium #21 Posted 02 April 2015 - 11:52 AM

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View PostLost_Toddler, on 02 April 2015 - 09:36 AM, said:

Really don't understand your last point. The panther AUFKLARINGSPANTHER is an utter god tank. By far one of the best tier 7's. That accuracy, dpm (1840), penetration (!!!!) and aim time, coupled with good agility and a 1500 hit pool. Plus fairly bouncy turret and frontal plate, especially for a medium LIGHT!!!

 

The tank is sick man. Makes me laugh how many people can't play it. Easiest run to two marks of excellence on any tank in the game. Rapes anything at tier 7 with that dpm, hit point pool and gun.

 

Pure madness.

 

As for the A43, it is poor and can not survive any kind of fire fight against equal tier tanks at close quarters. Everything can pen it and it doesn't even get a good gun with which to retaliate. Saving grace is its agility which allows you to stay at range and hit 1/3 of shots at long range at side armour etc, or to get in and spot/flank particularity late game. Not a fun tank and vastly inferior to the T34-85 and the crommie

 

Not panther but aufklaringspantersomething, a light with zero camo and guns available from tier 5 that meets tier ten tanks....:deer:

 

Ups posted to late.


Edited by Skrotonium, 02 April 2015 - 11:54 AM.


Lost_Toddler #22 Posted 02 April 2015 - 12:23 PM

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View PostSkrotonium, on 02 April 2015 - 11:52 AM, said:

 

Not panther but aufklaringspantersomething, a light with zero camo and guns available from tier 5 that meets tier ten tanks....:deer:

 

Ups posted to late.

 

Ah fair man, i was like wtf, i love that tank!! :facepalm:

 

I do dislike the A43 though, so far its the worst tier 6 i've played :(



Obsessive_Compulsive #23 Posted 14 April 2015 - 11:28 AM

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Edited by Smeeeeg_Heeeeed, 14 April 2015 - 11:28 AM.


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You gotta love light medium tanks, they are for brave and experience players. Not so versatile as Cromwell but 76 mm gun has good RoF, DPM and handling. A-43 is very mobile and flanking other tanks is a child's play. 70% WR after 200 game. Now this A-44 is kinda pain, we will see about that...
 

Kowski #25 Posted 27 April 2015 - 04:15 PM

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I've played maybe half of the tier 6 meds (T-34-85, Type-58, Cromwell, VK-3001, A-43 and Chi-To) and while A-43 wasn't spectacular it was not the worst either. IMO that "honor" goes to Chi-To, which, like most of the mid tier japanese tanks, just sucks, being slow, large and unarmored.

 

After some testing with the A-43 I ended up having a yolo-light-tank playstyle which worked pretty fine at that tier, especially against any cumbersome enemies. Get close, circle and pew pew pew as much as you can. Try to aim at the engines, with all the hits you're causing your chances of causing a fire is pretty good.

 

And trust me, the whole soviet hipster line is worth it, A44 with the high-alpha top gun is such fun, Obj 416 is nice with its OP dpm at tier 8 and Obj 430 v2 just rocks with all the armor it has.



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Did not like it all. It simply far too much work to get decent damage with this tank. Low alpha damage + really bad gun depression means most of the time you spend maneuvering around to find a position from which you are actually able to shoot stuff from and usually you get spotted after firing once and then it's falling back and finding a new position you can use with your crappy gun depression.

 

Add in that this tank does 85 or 115 damage per shot depending on which gun you use and you get the picture. The amount of work this tank makes you do on most maps to get in a somewhat decent amount damage in is simply too high. The kind of light/medium tank brawling were you basically drive around each other and shoot is tricky with this tank as well since even the smallest bumb in the ground will make your shoots go off into the air thanks to the poor gun depression.



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View PostDuncaN_101, on 28 March 2015 - 10:20 AM, said:

the A-43 is like an overblown T-50-2 (for those who can remember it) you can bully any tank with it ... i found this thing far more entertaining then the A-44

 

This. It is more like a light tank on steroids. The T-50 + T-50-2 were rape machines. Obliterating any alone heavy tank/TD with ease just by running around it like insect and sting it to death.

 

@OP: Maybe the style of your play doesn't suit this tank. A43 must be used as a light tank - 100%camo+net+binos, go ahead scout a little, stay hidden. Snipe. If you see the opportunity - pedal to the metal and kill. But then don't stop and spray your shots at full speed. Use 57mm Zis4 gun, with ~25% of premium ammo to stop higher tier heavies. Hit & run. Hide, goto step 1 and repeat.

 

A43 is by far the most entertaining tier6 tank to play if you know how to use it. If you angle the armor it can even bounce something. The only flaw of this tank is that you have to carry also some premium ammo for tier7-8 battles (assuming using Zis4).



Dark_Cloud #28 Posted 28 April 2015 - 02:20 PM

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View Postwordsmith, on 28 April 2015 - 10:44 AM, said:

 

you have to carry also some premium ammo for tier7-8 battles

 

Nope, I used it with the empty wallet setting, no manual fire ex, small repkit, small medkit, no equipment. Still much success, very capable of penetrating practically everything when flanking. Most fun you can have with this is an AT-8/7, even better if its isolated from the rest of the team or last one alive :trollface:

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View PostDark_Cloud, on 28 April 2015 - 01:20 PM, said:

 

Nope, I used it with the empty wallet setting, no manual fire ex, small repkit, small medkit, no equipment. Still much success, very capable of penetrating practically everything when flanking. Most fun you can have with this is an AT-8/7, even better if its isolated from the rest of the team or last one alive :trollface:

 

Sure when you manage to circle some slow snail it's not needed but I sometimes snipe with this tank as well and use premium to penetrate front of those KVs/IS and other tough targets. Luckily the magazine is big in A43 so you can carry normal AND premium rounds and use which one is needed most. I prefer 57mm Zis4 since it is super precise, fast firing (2 sec.reload) and able to pen everything it encounters.

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@ Wordsmith

Since it's basically a light tank it don't need even that slow a target to circle (but yes there is a limit to what can you troll like that)

And since it's highcap, for me the way was to either unload a fuckshit ton on lead at their faces & hope for the best, knowing the limitations of the gun. If that don't work then just relocate, pop up from a different spot (only in citymaps tho) and pop that machinegun going.



ThePegasus1979 #31 Posted 10 June 2015 - 09:39 AM

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View PostXrN1, on 10 March 2015 - 09:28 PM, said:

 

If you try to play hull down on a tank with no gun depression, then yes it's terrible. If you try to shoot at tanks frontally with a low pen weapon, yes it sucks donkey balls. Solution? Don't do it, play to it's strengths.

 

For instance a Cromwell has a very decent gun that wikll most likely penetrate you, but there are some other tanks that will occasionally bounce a shot off of your A43. Compared to a Cromwell, it has less HP/T, but it has better a better traverse (44d/s instead of 36d/s). So while less powerful, it is a bit more nimble for cornering and circle strafing.

 

Errrm, nope double wrong: The A-43 has an elite hull traverse speed of 52.8°/sec, the Cromwell 57.1°/sec. So there the Cromwell wins! On the other hand the effective HP/ton on the typical medium terrain goes to the A-43 (24.02 vs 23.19). If you use the 57mm instead of the 76mm, the A-43's HP/t advantage gets even larger, as it weighs only half as much (740kg instead of 1,390 kg). So actually the Crommi is better for circling, the A-43 for hit&run. Not to forget the bad camo of the A-43: clearly worse than Cromwell, damn the T-34 and even the higher tiered T-43 and KV-13 have a MUCH better camo rating.

 


Edited by ThePegasus1979, 10 June 2015 - 09:54 AM.


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The A-43 is kinda like if you were playing Team Fortress 2 with Scout using a minigun. :teethhappy:

kevenh_66 #33 Posted 17 June 2015 - 12:40 PM

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I ace'd this tonk in the battle that gave me enough XP to elite it!

Phew

:)

 

It's probably not a keeper but the horror of going into battle with a near stock A-43 is gone & I'll try it in a few battles more before selling.

 

The delay is because I don't know if I want to go down this Med line any further :o

 

I've got the KV-13 already and the T-34-85 med line is open.

 

Which higher tier USSR medium should I be going towards? ;)



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View Postkevenh_66, on 17 June 2015 - 11:40 AM, said:

The delay is because I don't know if I want to go down this Med line any further :o

 

I've got the KV-13 already and the T-34-85 med line is open.

Which higher tier USSR medium should I be going towards? ;)

Which Tier 7 Russian Medium tank?

 

Look at the tier 8s and see which one you fancy: T-44 or Object 416?

It looks like either will get you to the T54 and beyond.

 

OK, I think I'll go down the Object 416 route ;)

 


Edited by kevenh_66, 18 June 2015 - 01:06 PM.


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View Postkevenh_66, on 18 June 2015 - 02:05 PM, said:

OK, I think I'll go down the Object 416 route ;)

 

I don't know Obj. 416 (cuz I don't have it) but if you like fast meds with guns that do high damage per shot with half-decent pen, you will enjoy the A-44. It's a long-[edited]worm with a turret in the end that runs 60 km/h on a straight asphalt, crippling anything tier 7 or lower with either T-34 guns (nothing is crippled w them tho!) or the Zis-6 with 170 pen and 300 average dmg. Load up a few gold shots for the Zis-6 and tier 8s, sometimes even 9s will have to think of you as a semi-serious threat. Seeing that the frontal armor is pretty godlike for a med of it's tier, it's gonna bounce a whole lot of shet. The only real downsides to this tank are the low RoF, low accuracy and the size. Only due to the size you can't handle scouting missions meant for LTs.

IRSanchez #36 Posted 20 June 2015 - 04:58 PM

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Yes, It's the worst T6 medium...

 

(and now a plot twist):

 

...yet it's used in competition games, so go figure.

 

 


Edited by IRSanchez, 20 June 2015 - 04:59 PM.


Eila_Juutilainen #37 Posted 20 June 2015 - 05:11 PM

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View PostIRSanchez, on 20 June 2015 - 04:58 PM, said:

Yes, It's the worst T6 medium...

 

(and now a plot twist):

 

...yet it's used in competition games, so go figure.

 

 

 

You must be M. Night Shyamalan in disguise!

thedab #38 Posted 25 June 2015 - 03:50 AM

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good tank well i like it,got a 58% WR in it so it can't that bad

mortalsatsuma #39 Posted 26 June 2015 - 01:53 PM

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wow, really? the A-43 is f**king amazing! my second fave medium after the T-34-85. It's just brilliant, fast, absurd ROF and half decent frontal armour. It just munches to bits anything in its path. The only downside with mine is that it seems to only get moron team mate hence my crap W/R in it. 

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View PostIRSanchez, on 20 June 2015 - 05:58 PM, said:

...yet it's used in competition games

 

 

Wanna know why?

 

Because it's good.

 







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