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Poll: Gun choice (155 members have cast votes)

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Wich gun to use on the VK2801

  1. the tier 5, 7,5cm (23 votes [14.84%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.84%

  2. the tier 5, 10,5cm (132 votes [85.16%])

    Percentage of vote: 85.16%

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NoRul3s #41 Posted 26 April 2016 - 12:20 AM

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View PostHonourableTyr, on 25 April 2016 - 10:42 PM, said:

Can I choose none? They are both terrible guns and even worse on a tier VI scout. It doesn't help that this is the worst scout I've played with tier for tier. The Leopard before is awesome, the SP1C after is amazing. This is just a giant pile of scrap that should be replaced by something useful and not the size of a Panther.

 

Maybe its you, the vk for me is great with the 10,5cm.

DOCT0R_ #42 Posted 09 August 2016 - 03:01 PM

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If you want to use VK 2801, you should use 10.5, period. You might as well be running T37/T21 otherwise.

Plus, 10.5 with HEAT makes it great surprise in SH.



Gremlin182 #43 Posted 09 August 2016 - 03:08 PM

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Overall the 10.5 is the way to go but it is a problem when you are up against fast tanks with a decent rate of fire.

 

Against a decent light tank or medium you need to either kill it with one shot or outrun them.

In that situation the 7.5 will likely give you a second shot maybe a third.

If you miss with the 10.5 they know they have all the time in the world to kill you.

 

btw the 28-01 is pretty good at ramming  finished off a few lights and SPGs that way hit them with the 10.5 then ram.



lemthepimpmeard #44 Posted 25 November 2016 - 06:19 PM

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The derp, always funny when you meet a Walker Bulldog or similar plus it can damage most things it meets. 

Erwin_Von_Braun #45 Posted 25 November 2016 - 08:41 PM

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View Postlemthepimpmeard, on 25 November 2016 - 05:19 PM, said:

The derp, always funny when you meet a Walker Bulldog or similar plus it can damage most things it meets.

 

Couple that with Controlled Impact & a Spall Liner & it makes a fabulous Bulldog slayer:arta:

Tazilon #46 Posted 15 January 2017 - 06:13 PM

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 25 November 2016 - 07:41 PM, said:

 

Couple that with Controlled Impact & a Spall Liner & it makes a fabulous Bulldog slayer:arta:

 

If you are putting a spall liner on a 28.01 you are wasting an equipment spot.

Edited by Tazilon, 19 January 2017 - 04:01 AM.


DeltaOperator #47 Posted 04 February 2017 - 06:08 PM

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Erwin_Von_Braun #48 Posted 24 February 2017 - 09:27 PM

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View PostTazilon, on 15 January 2017 - 05:13 PM, said:

 

If you are putting a spall liner on a 28.01 you are wasting an equipment spot.

 

Don't think so buddy.

Makes an excellent counter-scout - been doing it for ages.

Also very good for ramming Farty.

Maybe a waste of a slot for the way you like to play the game, but not for me - I do it because people just don't expect it.

Nearly 300 Kamikaze badges are testament to it's effectiveness.


 



Tazilon #49 Posted 27 February 2017 - 04:42 AM

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 24 February 2017 - 08:27 PM, said:

 

Don't think so buddy.

Makes an excellent counter-scout - been doing it for ages.

Also very good for ramming Farty.

Maybe a waste of a slot for the way you like to play the game, but not for me - I do it because people just don't expect it.

Nearly 300 Kamikaze badges are testament to it's effectiveness.


 

 

I don't use one and am #2 on the NA server in Kamikazes.  I have 1,501 of them on my 28.01.  It is a total waste of a slot.

Erwin_Von_Braun #50 Posted 04 March 2017 - 08:55 PM

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View PostTazilon, on 27 February 2017 - 03:42 AM, said:

 

I don't use one and am #2 on the NA server in Kamikazes.  I have 1,501 of them on my 28.01.  It is a total waste of a slot.

 

1501 kamikaze in 966 battles?

Sure.

Anything u say pal.



Tazilon #51 Posted 05 March 2017 - 09:56 PM

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 04 March 2017 - 07:55 PM, said:

 

1501 kamikaze in 966 battles?

Sure.

Anything u say pal.

 

Read that again:

 

"I don't use one and am #2 on NA server in Kamikazes.  I have 1,501 of them in my 28.01."

 

 

 


Edited by Tazilon, 05 March 2017 - 09:57 PM.


Erwin_Von_Braun #52 Posted 08 March 2017 - 06:49 PM

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View PostTazilon, on 05 March 2017 - 08:56 PM, said:

 

Read that again:

 

"I don't use one and am #2 on NA server in Kamikazes.  I have 1,501 of them in my 28.01."

 

 

 

 

Oh my, that's a pretty picture isn't it?:D

 

Tell me, does it bother you that much that someone has an opinion that differs to yours?

Is that why you seem to have this desperate urge to 'prove' yourself in the eyes of strangers?

Not quite sure if I should be laughing at you or not..............


 

 



Tazilon #53 Posted 08 March 2017 - 08:00 PM

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 08 March 2017 - 05:49 PM, said:

 

Oh my, that's a pretty picture isn't it?:D

 

Tell me, does it bother you that much that someone has an opinion that differs to yours?

Is that why you seem to have this desperate urge to 'prove' yourself in the eyes of strangers?

Not quite sure if I should be laughing at you or not..............


 

 

 

Sorry, but when you post in a public forum designed to encourage discussion and debate on issues involving tank play, one would seemingly expect posters to do exactly that: discuss and debate concepts of play.    You shared with us that you have 300 Kamikazes as proof your idea works but complain when I share my 1,501 Kamikazes and say it wastes a slot?   

 

I always tell people when there is disagreement over equipment, skills, etc to try both ways out and see what works for them.  I did exactly that several years ago:  I tested both setups extensively and discovered the benefits gained with spall liners do not outweigh the benefits gained by using more effective equipment in its place.   Even if you Ram like a fool, you don't come close to ramming as often as you shoot, thus it makes no sense for most people to use a spall liner.

 

I understand you like to ram, but I suggest you look more closely at how indiscriminate ramming hurts your team's chances of winning.  Ramming has a proper times, places, and sets of reasons to perform.

 

As the thread is about gun choice, sidetracking into discussions about spall liners seems misplaced.  If you mount a spall liner, you either can not properly max out the effectiveness of your gun or can not max out the effectiveness of your spotting capability.  Both are huge things to give up for the sake of minorly improved ramming capability.



DOCT0R_ #54 Posted 08 March 2017 - 08:05 PM

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 08 March 2017 - 06:49 PM, said:

 

Oh my, that's a pretty picture isn't it?:D

 

Tell me, does it bother you that much that someone has an opinion that differs to yours?

Is that why you seem to have this desperate urge to 'prove' yourself in the eyes of strangers?

Not quite sure if I should be laughing at you or not..............


 

 

 

You said he lied, now he has proven he didn't, so you back away like this?
Not quite sure if I should be laughing at you or not...

Erwin_Von_Braun #55 Posted 09 March 2017 - 06:55 PM

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View Postkreso03, on 08 March 2017 - 07:05 PM, said:

 

You said he lied, now he has proven he didn't, so you back away like this?
Not quite sure if I should be laughing at you or not...

 

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Edited by FireflyDivision, 12 March 2017 - 11:53 PM.
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Erwin_Von_Braun #56 Posted 09 March 2017 - 06:56 PM

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View PostTazilon, on 08 March 2017 - 07:00 PM, said:

 

Sorry, but when you post in a public forum designed to encourage discussion and debate on issues involving tank play, one would seemingly expect posters to do exactly that: discuss and debate concepts of play.    You shared with us that you have 300 Kamikazes as proof your idea works but complain when I share my 1,501 Kamikazes and say it wastes a slot?  

 

I always tell people when there is disagreement over equipment, skills, etc to try both ways out and see what works for them.  I did exactly that several years ago:  I tested both setups extensively and discovered the benefits gained with spall liners do not outweigh the benefits gained by using more effective equipment in its place.   Even if you Ram like a fool, you don't come close to ramming as often as you shoot, thus it makes no sense for most people to use a spall liner.

 

I understand you like to ram, but I suggest you look more closely at how indiscriminate ramming hurts your team's chances of winning.  Ramming has a proper times, places, and sets of reasons to perform.

 

As the thread is about gun choice, sidetracking into discussions about spall liners seems misplaced.  If you mount a spall liner, you either can not properly max out the effectiveness of your gun or can not max out the effectiveness of your spotting capability.  Both are huge things to give up for the sake of minorly improved ramming capability.

 

Proof?

Show me proof that isn't a shopped picture of an account that could belong to anyone.


 



anonym_kL7qtn3e52MB #57 Posted 10 March 2017 - 09:07 AM

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 09 March 2017 - 06:56 PM, said:

 

Proof?

Show me proof that isn't a shopped picture of an account that could belong to anyone.


 

 

Ebay account?

Never heard of Tazilon?

Never heard of his experience in the VK?

 

Anyway, you still sound like a fool, Von Braun...

Taz is one of the better LT players in the whole WoT community. All of the servers combined.



Erwin_Von_Braun #58 Posted 10 March 2017 - 07:13 PM

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View PostSpek_en_Bonen, on 10 March 2017 - 08:07 AM, said:

 

Ebay account?

Never heard of Tazilon?

Never heard of his experience in the VK?

 

Anyway, you still sound like a fool, Von Braun...

Taz is one of the better LT players in the whole WoT community. All of the servers combined.

 

pff

Like I care what you think.


 



Tazilon #59 Posted 11 March 2017 - 02:35 AM

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 09 March 2017 - 05:56 PM, said:

 

Proof?

Show me proof that isn't a shopped picture of an account that could belong to anyone.


 

 

You can GO HERE and then flip it to Kamikaze and you will see i have 1,653 Kamikazes as of last update to get my total on NA or you can log into NA server and look at my medals directly for the 28.01 and see I now have 1,506 Kamikazes on my 28.01.

 

Either way is pretty simple to do.



anonym_kL7qtn3e52MB #60 Posted 11 March 2017 - 08:51 AM

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 10 March 2017 - 07:13 PM, said:

 

pff

Like I care what you think.


 

 

You don't





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