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TheDrownedApe #41 Posted 15 April 2015 - 09:46 PM

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well I got the 197k in the 1390 now.  just meant I did a lot of IMs in it.

as others got polar bear crew standing by with 1st skill complete.  

I suppose it will be another tier 9 med sat in the garage for random.

anyone got any other info on them since test v3 etc?

TheR3dBaron #42 Posted 16 April 2015 - 08:25 PM

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View Postbrownape, on 15 April 2015 - 09:46 PM, said:

well I got the 197k in the 1390 now. just meant I did a lot of IMs in it.

as others got polar bear crew standing by with 1st skill complete.

I suppose it will be another tier 9 med sat in the garage for random.

anyone got any other info on them since test v3 etc?

 

The latest info I got is that I've spent all my credits on other tanks during the anniversary event :( So it may sit in the garage a bit unless they plan a Type 59 event for the new line like they plan on the RU server.



voidwyrm #43 Posted 18 April 2015 - 12:29 PM

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I tried it on the Testserver and what most people say is very true:

 

AMX-30 Pt. > Leo PTA  and  Leo 1 > AMX-30B

 

Not, what I hoped for really, as the AMX-30B looks fantastic... but as it seems, there really is no other reason to get the new t10 french medium. 

The Leo can do pretty much everything the AMX can, but better. And in my opinion even MUCH better, as the speed of the AMX is actually very bad for its role. But I guess its playable... I mean.... the Fatton is playable too... there is just no good reason to get one.



nipitiri #44 Posted 23 April 2015 - 09:57 AM

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I'm training crew for upcoming AMX 30 B. Can anyone tell weather the Comander or Loader have also radio operator skills available? Cant find it from wiki/internet yet...

 

EDIT: Finally russian wiki was updated and found that Lodaer is also Radio Operator: http://wiki.wargaming.net/ru/Tank:F72_AMX_30

Beaware that in AMX CDC Commander have Radio Operator skills!


Edited by nipitiri, 27 April 2015 - 08:06 AM.


N0ctis_ #45 Posted 05 May 2015 - 12:21 PM

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So...are there tanks worth it ? I really enjoy STB1.Leo1,E50M...the playstyle seems similar.

 

I plan to put my new fem crew in CDC and then start to grind the line,what u guys think ?



knocker21 #46 Posted 07 May 2015 - 05:21 PM

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So heres the thing

 

I have over 200k FREE XP (which is clearly not free) (Dont you just love that WG contradiction) anyway is it worth using on the T9 or not or if any how much would you put towards it 

 

I had to rebuy the AMX 1390 and its on 25,000 right now

 

Or would you say there is a better T9 in the game that i do not have which would be worth getting first?

In the running is the following with XP that is needed

SU-122-54 88751
Object 704 114602
Tortoise 116258
Obj 430 II 126528
T95 151597
AMX 50 Foch 165739
AMX 30 177991

 

As for Tx i have in the running

   
   
   
113 127296
Leopard 1 129735
E-50 Ausf.M 134176
FV215b 142826
T110E5 149544
E-100 154508
AMX 50B 175193
IS-4 185805
MAUS 189708
T57 Heavy 195411
JagdPz E-100 208302

 


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Shizuthink #47 Posted 10 May 2015 - 06:13 PM

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I think AMX 30B is almost on par with the Leopard 1 because it doesn't get ammoracked at all that much. You can actually play it with a fire extinguisher whereas you are almost forced to use 2 repair kits on Leo 1. It also has a funny looking turtle turret which can't be a bad thing :)

Exozen #48 Posted 14 May 2015 - 06:27 PM

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And its slower

And its gun performance is slightly worse

And it has a massiv tumor on the turret which in turn neglects its good gun depression

 

The pro's so far from my experience: Looks , despite the massiv cupola it looks good , but its not a good tier 10 medium , not when compared to the others. 

 

What it needs to be good : Removal or massiv buff of the commanders cupola to not make it an autopen. A slight increase in soft stats to up the mobility on pair with the Leo. 

 

Is it wort grinding 10 being good 1 being awfull : 4. 



tromajka #49 Posted 18 May 2015 - 12:41 PM

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AMX 30B is just bad balance between Leo1 and STB:

- less DPM then Leo1

- less mobile then Leo1

- in practice, gun is [edited], you will penetrate nothing and your shells will disappear all the time - WG magic !

- you can forget some armor added to the turret, since there is a hatch mutation never seen before. turret not competitive with the one of STB

- in practice, camo value is probably the worst of all tier 10 meds, expect to be spotted all the time

all in one, I don't see how can one use this tank like it is now.

 

 



Theodore #50 Posted 09 June 2015 - 05:48 AM

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View Posttromajku_mutantsku, on 18 May 2015 - 12:41 PM, said:

- in practice, camo value is probably the worst of all tier 10 meds, expect to be spotted all the time

 

http://www.wotinfo.net/en/camouflage?country=all&vehicletype=mt&tier=10&showLines=30&_showPremium=on&sort=

It's slightly better than T-62A.


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Amkal #51 Posted 09 June 2015 - 11:09 AM

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I think amx30b looks super sexy. Going to get it just for that reason

CumbDlickers #52 Posted 14 July 2015 - 10:55 AM

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Actually, 30B shall be BETTER than Leo 1, source: https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldofTanks/comments/34x7hm/tech_tree_tuesday_special_edition_amx_30_b/

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Tier 10: AMX 30 B

Here comes the tank I was very sceptical about. I thought (and kind of hoped) it would be worse than the Leopard 1 and I would just keep the good crew in T9 and fill this with some 3 skill crew. I have never been so wrong in all my life. This tank is absolutely gorgeous.

I am very afraid to admit it, but while Leopard 1 was my most favourite tank, I probably found a new one. AMX 30 B is just perfect. While less mobile than the Leo, it has the gun which just handles so well. You are actually able to hit things on the move or snapshotting and that is something the Leo just can't do at the moment. This is the most important thing in this game, I will trade a little bit of mobility for being able to hit things more often when it matters so much.

I have already listed the differences between the T9 and T10 so I will mostly be comparing it to the Leopard as that is what people are most interested about.

I believe the gun handling outperforms all of the things the Leo is better at. AMX 30B is worse in mobility, especially terrain resistances. It is tiny little bit worse in rate of fire resulting in about 63 lower DPM - this is not even significant. It also has one degree less of gun depression which after playing 700 games in the Leo is slightly annoying, but 8 is still plenty.

AMX 30 B also has no ammorack issues whatsoever. I think I have been yellow ammoracked twice or thrice in over 100 games. Never more than once. It does not suffer too much other module damage either.

The cupola that might seem gigantic is only annoying at very close range, also it is pretty troll as the very top (that some people will still aim for) is a "no damage" hit. I honestly do not mind the cupola that much, although it takes some getting used to. I got shot a couple of times into it when i thought I was behind ridge.

 

 I have Leo 1 and amx 30 1er atm and still not sure whether I want to go for 30B or stay with t9 but the review is helpful, esp. from someone of his skill level and experience.

 



TheDrownedApe #53 Posted 23 July 2015 - 04:06 PM

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i love my 30P, it really does do everything you would want, except bounce. shall unlock the 30B but probably not buy it yet

Mr_Sukebe #54 Posted 28 August 2015 - 04:51 PM

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Having 2nd thoughts on the 30 prot.  Less mobile than a PTA, and whilst it doesn't get ammo racked, just burns, VERY regularly.

On top of that, feel like I've been seriously trolled by the gun recently, e.g. bouncing on really weird things, e.g. the side armour of arty, UFP of an IS8 etc.  Sure, can work well, but mainly as a support sniper tank and frankly, the E50 does a better job because of it's accuracy.


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CumbDlickers #55 Posted 19 October 2015 - 11:04 AM

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30B armour is OP, didn't managed to get this medal in 30p or leos yet, 30b armour very stronk confirmed!



P4P5 #56 Posted 18 December 2015 - 09:22 PM

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Cant get any wins with this thing.

mynameispuffs #57 Posted 18 December 2015 - 09:27 PM

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For some reason i actually preferred the 30p to the 30b. Despite the fact it should technically be worse than the tier 10 i felt like i had better performances in it. The 30b was sold the instant i aced the thing. :P

 



ThinderChief #58 Posted 09 April 2016 - 08:59 PM

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If you bother reading the REAL stats, you'll figure that the 30s are actually <> 25/30cm LOWER than both T-54 and Leopard I, French designers are not so crazy.

 



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Hello,

I don't know if this question is already asked. So the AMX 30 pt. has the same engine as the AMX 30b. But it isn't worth it, because it has the same engine power as the first one.

So here is my question:

Is the AMX 30b cheaper in experience when buying this top engine? So is it worth to buy or not?

Thanks for the answers and sorry for my bad english!

 



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View PostMagnumracer55, on 12 April 2016 - 04:15 PM, said:

Hello,

I don't know if this question is already asked. So the AMX 30 pt. has the same engine as the AMX 30b. But it isn't worth it, because it has the same engine power as the first one.

So here is my question:

Is the AMX 30b cheaper in experience when buying this top engine? So is it worth to buy or not?

Thanks for the answers and sorry for my bad english!

 

No, the tier 10 tank has a fixed XP requirement and it does not matter if you have or have not researched the tier 9 tank top engine.

 

As for the top engine on the tier 9 tank, the AMX 30 Proto: even if it does not offer more horsepower, it is still a better engine because it is lighter and has a lower fire chance. So the question is whether you plan on keeping the AMX30 Proto or only getting the 30B and selling the Proto at that point. I recommend you to keep the 30 Proto as it is vastly better tier to tier than the 30B and unquestionably one of the best tanks on tier 9. So if you plan on playing the 30 Proto after aquiring the 30B, you might as well have researched the top engine before you unlock the 30B so you will have less fires and slightly better mobility much earlier. Of course it makes no sense free XPing the top engine, but if you keep the 30 Proto, no XP is really wasted by researching the top engine with regular XP.






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