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Search_Warrant #161 Posted 16 April 2017 - 03:27 AM

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Tank needs a major ROF buff to offset the pathetic armor and module damage. its completely open. not even open top! WHY IS THE DPM SO MISERABLE?!?! no cramped space to load shells, SO WHY WG?!!

 

1mm armor and what does it show for it? a 90mm gun thats 100% garbage, pen not even good enough to snipe IS-3 with due to derpy accuracy. the tanks sluggish, turns like a beached whale and ramming anything instantly kills it. the gun turns like a broken heavy tank's turret ring.

 

You would think a tank with 1mm armor would have something compensated for it! SU-152 gets the best TD gun in tier, gets troll armor and a mantle that eats IS-3 shots for days. but GOD FORBID you give a tank with 1mm armor decent DPM for a pathetic 240 alpha.

 

You even gave SU-122-44 more camo after firing AND faster reload. shows how useless WG are at balancing anything in this game.


Edited by Search_Warrant, 16 April 2017 - 03:44 AM.


tin53 #162 Posted 26 June 2017 - 05:27 AM

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just started playing the tank after it collected some dust in the garage.

man.

m56 scorpion has nothing going for it. it's sluggish when it should be fast. it's derpy when it should be a great sniper (thus negating the great pen values). it has awful aim time and bloom when it shouldn't. it doesn't have camo but it should (especially camo after shooting). i mean, i'm playing it and i can't believe how bad it is. the combo of meta and just plain laziness from the devs made this tank unplayable.

until that is fixed i would advise anyone against buying it. ridiculous that we have e25, skorpion, strv and other op td stuff and this can't get any love besides small buffs some patches ago.

 

ps: me playing m56 -> :arta:

 

i think the damage should be buffed to 300, same or a bit longer rld, much better gun handling, better camo after shooting and a bit better engine. don't see how that would break the balance.


Edited by tin53, 26 June 2017 - 06:37 AM.


VeryRisky #163 Posted 30 June 2017 - 11:47 PM

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Stats to date:

 

 

I'm not managing epic damage and can't really get to two marks but I am winning and that is nearly all solo play.   It seems to have the ability to do the right bit of damage to swing enough games it's way.   

 

Playing with bins, net and rammer, Large consumables but not cola.


Edited by VeryRisky, 25 January 2019 - 05:51 PM.


Dr_Mengede #164 Posted 31 March 2018 - 07:08 PM

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This TD (M56 Scorpion) sucks bigtime, yes you read it right, it sucks.!  (Just read the top 2 posts on this page. That is absolutly right.)  << When you aim at the target's turret at 100m-200m the shells very often hit the ground far away from the tank or the shells go high over the turret when you aim between the tracks. It's like gambling... For example my IS-2 and IS-3 and T-29 have more accurate guns (in-game).!


It needs a big buff to be/get what was promised by you people from WG and why I and a lot others bought it.

But we didn't get at all what we have payed for.!!! (Also Not all of us are Blue players or Unicums or can equip crews that have 5+ skills/perks each.)

 

Most important needed changes or suggestions are, 

to mount the gun upside-down and at least 2 degrees more gun depression (change -10 to -12 or -15)  and what the guys above wrote, gunhandling is atm the opposite of what has been advocated (the garage/wiki stats are not equal to how it actually performs in-game).!

 

Turning the gun mounting upside-down lowers the for this tank insane BIG Hitbox above the gun and makes the TD more ridge shooting viable.



Kaboom_Loli_69 #165 Posted 17 June 2018 - 08:56 AM

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I am in general non-TD player - I dont enjoy camping gameplay - and when I played TDs it was during my old tomato days and now only to complete missions and get another panzer girl. Yet I bought this little cockroach and played 30 battles. So far I have some 2K wn8 if I can believe webs and some 1300 DPB - as non- TD player I quite suck with it on maps like mines, or small and city maps in general where paper thin TDs are quite limited.

 

So ye, as I pointed I dont play TDs, but this little cockroach is actually the first TD I actually enjoy and like to play. With camo net and camo skil on crew its really sneaky, gun is not best - especially alpha and mediocre DPM - but accuracy is not bad if RNG doesnt troll you (but accuracy in wot is now problem in general, so I wouldnt blame the tank.. ehm TD. Even tanks like leopard 1 can easily miss fully aimed shots because rng). With armor 1 but small size its natural sniper.

 

I don't know if they buffed something I didnt own it on its release, but this TD is quite fast and mobile. In battles where we were winning, had control of map and we only had to finish off remaining enemies camping somewhere or some heavies survivors in city, I had no problems to flank something with this TD or just quicky jump on someone, hit him to the face and run away.

 

While I agree that DPM is meh, I think its overall good and sneaky little TD, that has no problem to yolo or flank something in ending of won battle and farm some extra damage.



jnykanen #166 Posted 14 October 2018 - 08:13 PM

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This td need big speed buff and more rof, Please do it fast

 



undutchable80 #167 Posted 16 October 2018 - 08:09 AM

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View Postjnykanen, on 14 October 2018 - 08:13 PM, said:

This td need big speed buff and more rof, Please do it fast

 

 

For me its the gun bloom and aim time + the ridiculously low DPM of that makes this tank "meh". Reduce that bloom and buff the DPM by 15% to make this more balanced. I mean, SU-122-44 has over 3k base DMP and this thing has just over 1.9k!?!?!?  Plus, its a crappy US TD crew trainer... Standard pen is good for its tier though.

Inappropriate_noob #168 Posted 13 December 2018 - 03:07 AM

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View Posttin53, on 26 June 2017 - 05:27 AM, said:

just started playing the tank after it collected some dust in the garage.

man.

m56 scorpion has nothing going for it. it's sluggish when it should be fast. it's derpy when it should be a great sniper (thus negating the great pen values). it has awful aim time and bloom when it shouldn't. it doesn't have camo but it should (especially camo after shooting). i mean, i'm playing it and i can't believe how bad it is. the combo of meta and just plain laziness from the devs made this tank unplayable.

until that is fixed i would advise anyone against buying it. ridiculous that we have e25, skorpion, strv and other op td stuff and this can't get any love besides small buffs some patches ago.

 

ps: me playing m56 -> :arta:

 

i think the damage should be buffed to 300, same or a bit longer rld, much better gun handling, better camo after shooting and a bit better engine. don't see how that would break the balance.

 

It wouldn't, and I was considering getting this, now I won't, although I did gift someone one of these.... he has been reluctant to toon with me for a while, lol

luc1230 #169 Posted 25 January 2019 - 03:15 PM

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Posiadam działko M56 Scorpion na torach, których waga to 8 t, a moc na tonie około 27 km, więc powinna wyglądać jak LT. Drugą rzeczą jest armata, pocisk leci tyle samo czasu, ile w Arta, czas celowania jest prawdopodobnie bardziej podobny do 5s po zatrzymaniu, dokładność 0.33 kiedy? Grałem w Ikv 90 i podobnych utworach czas celowania w Ikv 2,3 dokładności 0,36, a jednak łatwiej trafić coś. Kamuflaż, dlaczego jest tak staconarny jak ślepy jak kret i jak strzela go jak latarka. Czy możesz mi wyjaśnić, jak to jest z M56?

 


Edited by luc1230, 25 January 2019 - 03:17 PM.


VeryRisky #170 Posted 27 January 2019 - 11:49 AM

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Still going pretty well.   Now with a purple rammer.   Surprised myself by getting this mission done as well.

http://wotreplays.eu...ky-m56_scorpion

 

Spoiler

 

Perhaps time has come to retrain, what would you have on this crew now that I am started on 5th skill?  (Crew is shard with T40, both have commander as radioman).


Edited by VeryRisky, 27 January 2019 - 12:38 PM.


Spasenovicvladan #171 Posted 25 February 2019 - 01:53 AM

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It is the worst prem. tank I have.

Wasted gold for it.

A pen is a big lie, too many bounces on "sure aim" on 50mm armor, maybe it is gun handling which is awful.


Edited by Spasenovicvladan, 25 February 2019 - 02:23 AM.


SerKaN_2013 #172 Posted 04 July 2019 - 09:04 PM

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pls buff this tank asap.

Spasenovicvladan #173 Posted 20 November 2019 - 09:41 PM

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Now,

with wheeled tanks, this tank has no future.



peixe2 #174 Posted 15 January 2020 - 01:35 AM

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Am I the only one that likes this tank?

I'm not even a good player with Tank Destroyers. Started playing this tank after getting it for free and it's been amazing :amazed:

 

The gun arc is so good and the penetration seems fine for every shot. Get this thing behind a bush and it does wonders.



Negativvv #175 Posted 15 January 2020 - 01:59 AM

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I see why WG gave this tank away.

 

It's playable but little else, as others have said there isn't much going for it other than it's camo maybe. Guess the gun isn't bad but it needs more DPM.

 

It isn't even worth much on the trade in....



jack_timber #176 Posted 15 January 2020 - 08:57 AM

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View Postpeixe2, on 15 January 2020 - 12:35 AM, said:

Am I the only one that likes this tank?

I'm not even a good player with Tank Destroyers. Started playing this tank after getting it for free and it's been amazing :amazed:

 

The gun arc is so good and the penetration seems fine for every shot. Get this thing behind a bush and it does wonders.

No I like this mini TD as well, I think it's great use it's most excellent camo and away you go. Accurate and fast firing gun, yes dpm a tad low but got it for nothing so what's to complain about.






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