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GuderianDK #21 Posted 08 September 2015 - 08:20 PM

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This is a nasty Little surprise machine. I just got it and its very stealthy with camo net and camo perks - this machine can unload right in the face of enemies before being spotted. Gun has longer reload than I would like but all taken into account its a very specialized and deadly machine on a forestmap... not so much on citymaps, no point trying to hard you are gonna get killed very fast. On citymaps the relatively long reload really sucks.and the "no armor" thingy really makes you prime target for every light tank unlucky enough to be on the citymap with you.

 

But thats the Price of specialization - I'll take the Scorpion over a Jagdpanther or a t25/2 any day of the week on a forestmap.


 

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Coldspell #22 Posted 09 September 2015 - 12:50 AM

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View PostStanleyTweedle, on 08 September 2015 - 06:54 PM, said:

 

23/14/5.4

 

That is really nice camo.

Jimbodiah #23 Posted 09 September 2015 - 01:21 AM

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Those are E25-ish numbers, doubtful.

BigFellas_Dad #24 Posted 09 September 2015 - 10:50 AM

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After a very flaky start, of 4 games and 4 losses, i'm now loving the tank.  Aced it on the 5th game and it could be my new go-to tank as i play my premium tanks very often (1 in 3 games!).

 

Results so far, 60% win rate....very little T9 as yet so I expect these averages to fall after the hooneymoon period is over.  I use binocs, rammer and gld and started with cola, now dropped, also I bought permanent camo after the 5th game.

 

My crew is from my latest T40 crew (I used to use the T40 as my crew trainer, low tier great chance to win/advance crew) This crew has 6th sense and remaining crew on camo, training 2nd skill now so things will only get better.

 

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Damage Caused/Received 1.74
Average Number of Vehicles Destroyed per Battle 1.30
Average Damage Caused per Battle 1,307
Destroyed Vehicles 13
Experience 8,594
Maximum Experience per Battle 1,740
Hit Ratio 73.63%
Damage Caused 13,072


Bennyboymothman #25 Posted 09 September 2015 - 12:54 PM

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Doing well in mine too, just 3 games though so far, aced it on the 3rd go with 2900 dmg. Granted I have been top tier all three games!
The reverse and traverse speed will be an issue I think but it can quickly outflank opponents and surprise them from behind.
I've found that I had to play forward and aggressive with it and use its superb gun depression, take a hit then back off and relocate.
Unfortunately one hit is all it can sacrifice with its low hp.

Edited by Bennyboymothman, 09 September 2015 - 12:56 PM.


M1tchy #26 Posted 10 September 2015 - 02:50 PM

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I'm enjoying this quite a bit. Love the depression and the mobility will get better as crew skills increase. Off road driving will help the speed. Just won a battle on Fishermans Bay. Thought we were going to lose this one. Only 42% on 1st skill so far.

 

http://wotreplays.com/site/2140115#fisherman_s_bay-m1tchy-m56_scorpion

 

 

 

 



Boo_Bee #27 Posted 11 September 2015 - 07:55 AM

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I'm sorta wondering about if the camo values are working correctly. I have a 5 skill crew in it (100% camo on all crew, camo net, BIA, paint, binocs etc) and I think I am getting spotted rather often at long range. (More often than my other camo snipers). Anyone else seeing this?

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View PostStanleyTweedle, on 11 September 2015 - 07:55 AM, said:

I'm sorta wondering about if the camo values are working correctly. I have a 5 skill crew in it (100% camo on all crew, camo net, BIA, paint, binocs etc) and I think I am getting spotted rather often at long range. (More often than my other camo snipers). Anyone else seeing this?

 

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Jimbodiah #29 Posted 11 September 2015 - 04:51 PM

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Yeah, I get spotted a lot too. Hence my remark that similar camo values to the E25 seems way off.

 

Also the 1mm armor is bogus and leads to a lot of damage by team-mates accidentally (and intentionally!) bumping into you. I don't know where they got this measurement from, but my car has thicker armor; I doubt a military vehicle would get 1mm considering you could actually kick a hole into it.



Sabbatex_KLR #30 Posted 11 September 2015 - 05:29 PM

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Don't buy it, you just get trolled by your own team. 90% of games I get killed by my own team.

Fluffy_The_Destroyer #31 Posted 12 September 2015 - 12:41 AM

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View PostStanleyTweedle, on 11 September 2015 - 07:55 AM, said:

I'm sorta wondering about if the camo values are working correctly. I have a 5 skill crew in it (100% camo on all crew, camo net, BIA, paint, binocs etc) and I think I am getting spotted rather often at long range. (More often than my other camo snipers). Anyone else seeing this?

 

Hmmm.. i played a game today sat on provarovka hill at the side. near the bush. camonet/bonocs kicked in and a 75% camo crew on. BANG! tiger 1 shoots me and breaks my gun and arty splashed me for 90% of my hp. i spotted nothing, i never even fired my gun. how the hell was i spotted and shot? they had no LT's in the middle ether (in mini town). i dont get it.

Edited by Fluffy_The_Destroyer, 12 September 2015 - 12:41 AM.


Gremlin182 #32 Posted 12 September 2015 - 02:22 AM

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Well if the M56 is never going to become a standard premium TD that will be in the game and the store "marmite tank" I like that.

anyway lets just put a total halt on new German and Russian Premium TDs till someone gets organised and produces a couple of Premium American TDs.

 

You could even do what you did with the Cromwell B,  Rudy and IS2 take a standard vehicle and make a premium version.

Some countries are really lacking when it comes to premiums.

While your at it make a Premium french TD its a real pain having to use the Pak40 to train french TD crews

 

If some time in the future you design better American and French premium TDs retire the old ones..

 

Its really not on to have 5 or 6 premium German and Russian TDs and zero American

 

 



armholeeio #33 Posted 12 September 2015 - 08:24 AM

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View PostSixDasherr, on 11 September 2015 - 03:51 PM, said:

Yeah, I get spotted a lot too. Hence my remark that similar camo values to the E25 seems way off.

 

Also the 1mm armor is bogus and leads to a lot of damage by team-mates accidentally (and intentionally!) bumping into you. I don't know where they got this measurement from, but my car has thicker armor; I doubt a military vehicle would get 1mm considering you could actually kick a hole into it.

It was meant to be thrown out of the back of a plane so bugger all armouries. A armoured vehicle  is correct. If you have served in any of the worlds forces this madness wouldn't surprise you



Tankeric #34 Posted 12 September 2015 - 04:32 PM

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View PostStanleyTweedle, on 11 September 2015 - 07:55 AM, said:

I'm sorta wondering about if the camo values are working correctly. I have a 5 skill crew in it (100% camo on all crew, camo net, BIA, paint, binocs etc) and I think I am getting spotted rather often at long range. (More often than my other camo snipers). Anyone else seeing this?

 

I did a small camotest with fellow Dinger Chevayo, he made a thread on the forum about it. 

 

http://forum.worldof...-scorpion-camo/

 

 

 



Jimbodiah #35 Posted 12 September 2015 - 08:41 PM

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There is a trend by teammates to ram the scorpion and even just push them away, a lot of people like causing damage and not being punished for it, basically a free TK without any consequences. The 1mm armor is  a free-pass to TK this way imho. WG did not think this one through. About every time I play the scorpion I get rammed on purpose or pushed into the line of fire.

Edited by SixDasherr, 12 September 2015 - 08:41 PM.


M1tchy #36 Posted 12 September 2015 - 08:55 PM

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I have had a couple of rams, but most times I actually get asked how good it is. I'm still working on the best way to play it, but it does some good damage and with increasing crew skills it just gets better.

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View PostStanleyTweedle, on 11 September 2015 - 07:55 AM, said:

I'm sorta wondering about if the camo values are working correctly. I have a 5 skill crew in it (100% camo on all crew, camo net, BIA, paint, binocs etc) and I think I am getting spotted rather often at long range. (More often than my other camo snipers). Anyone else seeing this?

 

Yes I agree,so far I have found the camo very disappointing,getting spotted even when hidden in bush and not firing.Feel I was sold a lemon.

Edited by Gold_Spammer, 12 September 2015 - 11:34 PM.


Tankeric #38 Posted 12 September 2015 - 11:44 PM

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View PostM1tchy, on 12 September 2015 - 08:55 PM, said:

I have had a couple of rams, but most times I actually get asked how good it is. I'm still working on the best way to play it, but it does some good damage and with increasing crew skills it just gets better.

 

I've had a couple of rams also, but not intentional.

 

Managed to Ace it after 14 games I think.  http://wotreplays.eu...e/2144449#stats

 

 



M1tchy #39 Posted 12 September 2015 - 11:59 PM

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nice!! I still haven't got that good yet. Recent teams have been total fails, and this evening had bad lag. 3 losses in it tonight.

Lomion_EU #40 Posted 14 September 2015 - 11:27 AM

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Overall it's ok.  Only played 5 matches, 4 open maps and one City.  "aced" on 5th match on Himmelsdorf - top tier.

 

With a good crew (I use my 4 skill Hellcat crew) and some smart play this is overall a good "camping" TD.

 

https://replays.quic...t.php?id=146027

 

Although i don't think that it will become as legendary as the E-25.






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