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talkinjibberish #1 Posted 08 April 2015 - 01:21 PM

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source - ritas status report Q&A with storm 7/4/15

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I do not consider WG not considering artillery to be a problem to be a problem.

Edited by La_Daga, 08 April 2015 - 01:25 PM.


fREDDY2 #3 Posted 08 April 2015 - 01:23 PM

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Oh, I am presuming you do?

Apathia #4 Posted 08 April 2015 - 01:23 PM

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It isn't a problem, it just has many problems...

Squigley #5 Posted 08 April 2015 - 01:23 PM

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You should have quoted the whole thing

 

"It's possible artillery will be changed "not to be so frustrating for players". Storm later adds that WG "does not consider artillery to be a problem", but "there are some ideas how to solve it""

 

I think that's as close they'll ever get to openly admitting that there are problems with arty.



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Well just because they can code doesn't mean they aren't stupid...arty is a bloody curse in this game and always has been since I started playing.

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View PostSquigley, on 08 April 2015 - 01:23 PM, said:

You should have quoted the whole thing

 

"It's possible artillery will be changed "not to be so frustrating for players". Storm later adds that WG "does not consider artillery to be a problem", but "there are some ideas how to solve it""

 

I think that's as close they'll ever get to openly admitting that there are problems with arty.

 

And frustrating is the issue at hand. Arty isn't broken or a problem, but it's extremely frustrating at times. It's like and itch you can't scratch

wsatnutter #8 Posted 08 April 2015 - 01:26 PM

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do they see it more as a irritant or more as a plate of

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to be enjoyed



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View Postwsatnutter, on 08 April 2015 - 12:26 PM, said:

do they see it more as a irritant or more as a plate of

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to be enjoyed

 

Look a bit soggy to me.

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"Artillery is not a problem. Stop making threads about it"  -Gandhi


Edited by TO_FR, 08 April 2015 - 01:32 PM.


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View Posttalkinjibberish, on 08 April 2015 - 12:21 PM, said:

source - ritas status report Q&A with storm 7/4/15

 

Why would you try to take a quote out of context?

 

View PostSquigley, on 08 April 2015 - 12:23 PM, said:

You should have quoted the whole thing

 

"It's possible artillery will be changed "not to be so frustrating for players". Storm later adds that WG "does not consider artillery to be a problem", but "there are some ideas how to solve it""

 

I think that's as close they'll ever get to openly admitting that there are problems with arty.

 

Oh, that's why ... because you're trying to lie.  He clearly says that arty needs to be 'solved'.  Problems are 'solved' so the whole statement is internally logically inconsistent.  Its obvious that they know there is a problem but they're doing their usual '+4 MM is fine' (before changing it), 'gold ammo is fine' (before saying that they're going to nerf it), and 'KV1S and Hellcat are fine' (before changing them).

 

Arty will be fixed because it is clearly an awful mechanic that holds the game back.


Edited by Evil_Mungo, 08 April 2015 - 01:43 PM.


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I've played nearly 20k battles now and i REALLY DON'T SEE ARTY A PROBLEM FROM EITHER END.

 

I guarantee i have been hit 10 times more from direct fire than indirect fire. Of those miniscule amount of hits; most are an annoyance and rarely (probably 30 times??) have i been one shotted. Most do a similar amount of damage to a +1 heavy and take an age to reload. Just don't present yourself again.

 

About 5k games ago i started to play Arty and find it frustrating. Some shots make unbelievable small amounts of damage (hi bert) whilst my only line (Brit) average about 400 at tier 8. Thats of all my hits only. I probably miss 2/3 to 3/4 HIT 40% of FULLY AIMED shots.

 

 

 


Edited by brownape, 08 April 2015 - 02:49 PM.


talkinjibberish #13 Posted 08 April 2015 - 01:52 PM

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View Postbrownape, on 08 April 2015 - 12:47 PM, said:

I've played nearly 20k battles now and i REALLY DON'T SEE ARTY A PROBLEM FROM EITHER END.

 

I guarantee i have been hit 10 times more from direct fire than indirect fire. Of those miniscule amount of hits; most are an annoyance and rarely (probably 30 times??) have i been one shotted. Most do a similar amount of damage to a +1 heavy and take an age to reload. Just don't present yourself again.

 

About 5k games ago i started to play Arty and find it frustrating. Some shots make unbelievable small amounts of damage (hi bert) whilst my only line (Brit) average about 400 at tier 8. Thats of all my hits only. I probably miss 2/3 to 3/4 of FULLY AIMED shots.

 

well said



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View Postbrownape, on 08 April 2015 - 12:47 PM, said:

I've played nearly 20k battles now and i REALLY DON'T SEE ARTY A PROBLEM FROM EITHER END.

 

I guarantee i have been hit 10 times more from direct fire than indirect fire. Of those miniscule amount of hits; most are an annoyance and rarely (probably 30 times??) have i been one shotted. Most do a similar amount of damage to a +1 heavy and take an age to reload. Just don't present yourself again.

 

About 5k games ago i started to play Arty and find it frustrating. Some shots make unbelievable small amounts of damage (hi bert) whilst my only line (Brit) average about 400 at tier 8. Thats of all my hits only. I probably miss 2/3 to 3/4 of FULLY AIMED shots.

 

 

Of those hits you took from direct fire tanks, how many where made by tanks that did not expose themselves to your return fire as a result?  Tanks that directly engage you open themselves up to your ability to counter them and, as a result, outplay them.

 

Arty does not allow me, in the VAST amount of cases, to outplay him.  No matter what, in those cases, arty is a class that utterly negates skill and has no place in a skill based shooter.  People try to equate arty to the noobtube in other shooters, but the comparison is a bad one because really skillful play will allow a player not using that crutch to outplay the baddy.  That simply cannot happen with arty - as nothing I do, barring hiding, will allow me to outplay him.  Nothing at all.



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I'd rather play against it than with it.

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Arty: All reward, no risk.

That's my biggest problem with it.



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View PostHugsAndKisses, on 08 April 2015 - 02:57 PM, said:

Arty: All reward, no risk.

That's my biggest problem with it.

 

lol

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View PostEvil_Mungo, on 08 April 2015 - 12:54 PM, said:

 

Of those hits you took from direct fire tanks, how many where made by tanks that did not expose themselves to your return fire as a result?  Tanks that directly engage you open themselves up to your ability to counter them and, as a result, outplay them.

 

Arty does not allow me, in the VAST amount of cases, to outplay him.  No matter what, in those cases, arty is a class that utterly negates skill and has no place in a skill based shooter.  People try to equate arty to the noobtube in other shooters, but the comparison is a bad one because really skillful play will allow a player not using that crutch to outplay the baddy.  That simply cannot happen with arty - as nothing I do, barring hiding, will allow me to outplay him.  Nothing at all.

 

This is just bollocks. I've killed far more SPGs tha SPGs have even hit me, let alone killed me.  Outplaying arty is one of the reasons I like it to be in the game.

Edited by Hedgehog1963, 08 April 2015 - 02:17 PM.


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View PostHedgehog1963, on 08 April 2015 - 02:58 PM, said:

 

This is just bollocks.  I've killed far more SPGs tha SPGs have even hit me, let alone killed me.

 

Ah, hello fellow Pascucci hunter :D

 

22 here :)



Evil_Mungo #20 Posted 08 April 2015 - 02:00 PM

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View PostHedgehog1963, on 08 April 2015 - 12:58 PM, said:

 

This is just bollocks.  I've killed far more SPGs tha SPGs have even hit me, let alone killed me.

 

Unless you are playing low tiers that no one even cares about, you are lying.

 

edit:

 

or, unless you play totally passively and are a terrible player with no skill or exclusively play scouts.

 

edit number 2:

 

Called it.

 
Tank Name
 
Type
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Ø Damage
Ø XP
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WN8
  Type 59       8 888,34 660 3152 47,24% 1171,91
  T-50       4 193,03 455 1504 54,59% 1009,24
  MT-25       6 265,61 526 1436 51,88% 932,79
  BT-2       2 210,98 366 1028 55,84% 1108,04
  T-127       3 361,50 549 641 61,78% 1534,81
  Cromwell       6 563,79 575 637 48,51% 1042,73

Edited by Evil_Mungo, 08 April 2015 - 02:04 PM.





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