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Poll: AMX CDC (165 members have cast votes)

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What equipment do you use? (3 max)

  1. Vertical Stabilizer Mk. 1 (136 votes [27.98%])

    Percentage of vote: 27.98%

  2. Toolbox (3 votes [0.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.62%

  3. CO2 Filled Tanks (3 votes [0.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.62%

  4. GLD (22 votes [4.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.53%

  5. Optics (83 votes [17.08%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.08%

  6. Binocs (13 votes [2.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.67%

  7. Rammer (138 votes [28.40%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.40%

  8. Spall Liner (2 votes [0.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.41%

  9. Enh. Torsion Bars (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  10. WAR (6 votes [1.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.23%

  11. Vents (77 votes [15.84%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.84%

  12. Camo Net (3 votes [0.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.62%

What consumables do you use? (3 max)

  1. Addictive Brown Stuff (19 votes [3.93%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.93%

  2. Prem Repair Kit (31 votes [6.40%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.40%

  3. Prem Aid Kit (21 votes [4.34%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.34%

  4. Auto-extinguisher (66 votes [13.64%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.64%

  5. 105-octane Fuel (3 votes [0.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.62%

  6. 100-octane Fuel (3 votes [0.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.62%

  7. Small Repair Kit (146 votes [30.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.17%

  8. Small Aid Kit (133 votes [27.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 27.48%

  9. Manual-extinguisher (62 votes [12.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.81%

How much gold ammo do you use (on average) each game? (1 max)

  1. 1-2 (85 votes [51.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 51.52%

  2. 1-4 (26 votes [15.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.76%

  3. 2-5 (31 votes [18.79%])

    Percentage of vote: 18.79%

  4. More than 5 (23 votes [13.94%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.94%

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Kurghan #21 Posted 30 January 2016 - 03:04 PM

    Lieutenant Сolonel

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pudelikael #22 Posted 15 February 2016 - 12:37 PM

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Some games do well. But in general, a bad tank

The_Georgian_One #23 Posted 17 February 2016 - 11:48 AM

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Is it only me or the tank is very map and team dependent? I have crap win rate in it and I'm doing okay in other paper meds - STA, Comet, AMX30...this tank has no carry potential for me, unlike the ones that I mentioned.



pudelikael #24 Posted 17 February 2016 - 08:42 PM

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Tank is broken. He did not camo. He is not able to detect other tanks.

Eila_Juutilainen #25 Posted 17 February 2016 - 09:22 PM

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View Postp6kk, on 17 February 2016 - 08:42 PM, said:

Tank is broken. He did not camo. He is not able to detect other tanks.

 

Or maybe you just fail. Bring proof instead of spreading your whine to multiple threads.

Strappster #26 Posted 17 February 2016 - 11:41 PM

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I'm slowly growing to like this tank after a rocky start. I think the turning point was when I got sixth sense on the commander, I think it's a necessity on a tank as fragile as this. Pretty good at snapshots when poking ridges, accurate enough for sniping and mobile enough to relocate as necessary. I don't get ammo racked as much as I used to since the loader got safe stowage but I'm still not good in this tank, very much a support player. 



The_Georgian_One #27 Posted 18 February 2016 - 04:58 PM

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View PostStrappster, on 17 February 2016 - 11:41 PM, said:

I'm slowly growing to like this tank after a rocky start. I think the turning point was when I got sixth sense on the commander, I think it's a necessity on a tank as fragile as this. Pretty good at snapshots when poking ridges, accurate enough for sniping and mobile enough to relocate as necessary. I don't get ammo racked as much as I used to since the loader got safe stowage but I'm still not good in this tank, very much a support player.

 

My crew is nearly 3 perk with BiA and I still can't make it work. I mean I do have good damage games, but the win rate is still atrocious. Same crew - AMX30 and I'm running 55% WR...

IDK...when I try to play support I find my teams loose because I'm not aggressive enough. On the other hand, when I'm aggressive I tend to get crapon by arty, penned by tier VIs and rekt before I can have impact. Maybe it's not a tank for me. What I find particularly annoying is when you fight tanks that you have to aim for weakspots - they will just snap you and you have to aim and pray to RNGsus. SuperPers is a good example.

 

EDIT: just checked VBaddict data and it shows CDC on 10th place in terms of accuracy among premium mediums on tier VIII. Its gun seriously needs a buff.


Edited by The_Georgian_One, 18 February 2016 - 05:13 PM.


Strappster #28 Posted 19 February 2016 - 08:56 PM

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I feel I'm being bloody-minded in playing this tank at the moment. I get one good match with a decent team, then a string of five or six defeats where the best score we've managed is 4-15. I'm still earning good credits and my future BatChat crew are training well but it's so often an exercise in frustration.

 

My personal averages are improving, I'm at nearly 600dmg per game now - pitiful I know but when I picked this tank up again it was just under 400 so you can see how badly I play. The 24% WR is another strong indication but then I play badly in other tanks and have a much better WR thanks to teams carrying me.

 

Thing is, I find it difficult to stop playing. It's a great tank, I know that from all the replays I've watched to pick up tips and there's just something about it, an indefinable quality, like there's a fantastic match straining to get out and I'm the ham-fisted oaf stopping it.

 

Ah well, there's only one way to Carnegie Hall :)



volim_velike_sise #29 Posted 15 March 2016 - 10:37 PM

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    08-20-2013

i love this tank, very challenging to play it well and i started with about 650dmg and 500wn8, now im at 1050dmg and 1200 wn8 with it, had three M games all around 4300dmg top gun etc

the tank just doesn't forgive many mistakes and it's a great way to become a better player

but i do admit it can get very frustrating having bad teamates couple of games in a row cuz of the cdc inability to be too aggresive early in games, u get overrun badly very often

but the good games are the most fun i had playing wot


Edited by volim_velike_sise, 15 March 2016 - 10:41 PM.


Shacou #30 Posted 24 March 2016 - 04:37 PM

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Had a good game, me and ally Škoda T50 managed to carry almost lost battle. You can pretty much see what CDC is capable of in this replay.
http://wotreplays.co...e/2569106#stats

RePlayBoy101 #31 Posted 06 April 2016 - 05:51 PM

    Second Lieutenant

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this tank is a amx 13 90 without an autoloader ... play it right and u will get good resoults

 

i dont regret paying 27€ for it



pudelikael #32 Posted 17 April 2016 - 05:59 PM

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this tank is a amx 13 90 without an autoloader 

 

 

RLY?

 

AMX CDC is shoddy

This tank pen is 212. RLY? Maybe 170 or less. I can't pen this tiger 1, panther 1, IS tank.

I will not give any more Wargaming no cents. Cheated out of money.


Edited by p6kk, 18 April 2016 - 01:35 PM.


Strappster #33 Posted 18 April 2016 - 01:56 PM

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View Postp6kk, on 17 April 2016 - 04:59 PM, said:

I can't pen this tiger 1, panther 1, IS tank.

 

If that's the case, I don't think the problem you're experiencing is the tank.



pudelikael #34 Posted 18 April 2016 - 03:36 PM

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What experience? I've seen other players who play CDC and the average damage all round 1000 or less. 

Why so little damage? There is no pen. Tank is broken, not player.

 

I own T-54 proto and I will make easily 3000 damage in the game. Proto pen is only 183 and i dont shoot gold ammo.


Edited by p6kk, 18 April 2016 - 03:41 PM.


Pablo_Amenable #35 Posted 18 April 2016 - 03:48 PM

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I don't really like this tank, it is not a bad tank but sadly It is not a tank you could grind credits whole day, I loved FCM very much but CDC is to the meh side

Strappster #36 Posted 19 April 2016 - 09:52 AM

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View Postp6kk, on 18 April 2016 - 02:36 PM, said:

What experience? I've seen other players who play CDC and the average damage all round 1000 or less. 

Why so little damage? There is no pen. Tank is broken, not player.

 

I own T-54 proto and I will make easily 3000 damage in the game. Proto pen is only 183 and i dont shoot gold ammo.

 

My average damage in the CDC is about 600 with a win rate of 30%, I'm terrible in it (and many other tanks) but even I have no problem penning the tanks you've listed. I love seeing a red Tiger I on the field as it's got flat armour and the pen of the CDC goes through it like butter. Panthers can be tricky if engaged frontally due to the slope of the upper plate so I try not to engage it frontally. ISs are vulnerable from nearly every angle. The CDC has amazing mobility so there's no reason why you can't relocate to get a better shot though the gun does need time to aim to make the most of it.

Kyono #37 Posted 05 May 2016 - 02:04 AM

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I really do enjoy my CDC, I just despite the fact that every time an enemy so much as looks at me, my ammo rack surrenders.

____prophet____ #38 Posted 10 May 2016 - 12:33 PM

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Artillery snap shots. **** **** ****. I was carrying hard last night, soloed three tier 8s and lost only 400 HP while doing so. Then I attack the enemy arty. I'm driving like 35 km/h. He turns, clicks, and without aiming takes my 1100 HP away and kills me on the spot. Team shouts "you idiot" and "you mega noob". It was still my effort that won the game, but had I been driving my Mutz, I would have survived that arty snap shot.

Edited by alisuorittaja, 10 May 2016 - 12:40 PM.


Lomion_EU #39 Posted 10 May 2016 - 03:38 PM

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View Postdraeumlife, on 05 May 2015 - 09:13 PM, said:

Here's a tank I will probably never touch, for some of us the skill ceiling is just too high. :(

That said, I respect those who manage to do well in this thing, surviving till the end of a match with an unarmored rocket is something of a feat in my opinion.

This is the end game in lightly armoured mediums.  It's extremely mobile so use it, if you're not where you shot from the last time then the enemy has to reacquire you to shoot back.  never stop.



Re3D #40 Posted 17 May 2016 - 09:18 PM

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I have to say that I love this tank the combiantion of speed,mobility and the gun is amazing,it's like a ninja,it's deadly but if it's caught,he is dead.The worst enemy of this tank are the God damn artillerys that are driving me insane! every now and then I get 1 shotted.And sometimes they even hit me on the move! it's insane! one game an S-51 shotted me took half of my HP( I have to say I feel blessed it didn't 1 shotted me) and after some time it just hits me smack on my face,not even splash.I have very bad luck with artys in this tank,I even almost carried a game with it but I was killed by arty.And the ammo rack I have to say it's not a HUGE problem.I mean sure you get ammo racked more frequently but to me it isn't a big problem because you don't have to be shot in this tank and if you do,prepare for hell.Also I didn't had to many problems with HEs(well,besides the artys).If you want to counter a T49 for example(this is just if you can't retreat anywhere) just turn your tank and show him your tracks.He won't do full damage,maybe 300-400 dmg.Also with this tank you have to be patient,you have to chose your targets carefully because you really can't trade,especially face to face because they will hit you in the hull which will result in an ammo rack,most likely.All in all I have to say I am in a love-hate relationship with this tank,but just because of artys,they will focus you almost always,so watch out and pray to God they won't hit you.

Edited by Re3D, 17 May 2016 - 09:34 PM.





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