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Are the riots justified?

  1. Yes (37 votes [15.88%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.88%

  2. No (196 votes [84.12%])

    Percentage of vote: 84.12%

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mil71 #81 Posted 10 August 2011 - 08:50 PM

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Haha I'll tell them I'm helping them.

SteelCity #82 Posted 11 August 2011 - 03:41 PM

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If you walked up to me in all that gimp gear i would deffo stop rioting. I would be too busy pissing myself laughing!  :lol:

Cobra6 #83 Posted 11 August 2011 - 08:40 PM

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Here is the best and most to the point explanation of the situation. Something with "nail", "hammer" and "head"

http://blip.tv/godle...-a-riot-5460051

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Stwic #84 Posted 12 August 2011 - 05:06 PM

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View Postmil71, on 10 August 2011 - 05:35 PM, said:

I'm going back to London on friday, I'm going well armoured, I'm hoping a rioter attacks me so I can bring him the pain!

How dare these scumbags ruin our ancestors work for the country!

This is what I will be wearing,
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Be scared rioters I come for you!
O my God you crazy Emo kid...

Cobra6 #85 Posted 12 August 2011 - 06:56 PM

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View Postmil71, on 10 August 2011 - 05:35 PM, said:

I'm going back to London on friday, I'm going well armoured, I'm hoping a rioter attacks me so I can bring him the pain!

How dare these scumbags ruin our ancestors work for the country!

This is what I will be wearing,
http://a2.sphotos.ak...0_4880784_n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak...8_5593379_n.jpg

Be scared rioters I come for you!

I hope they crack your skull in, you deserve it, don't fuel the hate. Let the police handle it.

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Dark_Cartographer #86 Posted 13 August 2011 - 08:59 AM

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View PostCobra6, on 11 August 2011 - 08:40 PM, said:

Here is the best and most to the point explanation of the situation. Something with "nail", "hammer" and "head"

http://blip.tv/godle...-a-riot-5460051

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Yeah, Pat Condell....I find myself nodding and shaking my head in equal amounts when I listen to him. Sometimes I agree completely and others I can't believe what I am hearing.  :unsure:

Cobra6 #87 Posted 13 August 2011 - 09:53 AM

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View PostDark_Cartographer, on 13 August 2011 - 08:59 AM, said:

Yeah, Pat Condell....I find myself nodding and shaking my head in equal amounts when I listen to him. Sometimes I agree completely and others I can't believe what I am hearing.  :unsure:

True, his views sometimes take weird jumps, but I must say the majority is quite valid.

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John_Armfeldt #88 Posted 13 August 2011 - 10:34 AM

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i'd love to help the police with an effective method.
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load this with 150mm shells of water or teargas, water cannon, or any other non lethal munition or option and it will solve the day's business.

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but seriously ppl allways side with rioters, i side with the law.

brad #89 Posted 13 August 2011 - 10:49 AM

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These people weren't rioting for a cause, they were opportunists who thought they could get away with some free goods.


Now they will lose their jobs, their homes and possibly their kids. No one will be weeping for them here.

brad #90 Posted 13 August 2011 - 11:00 AM

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View Postmil71, on 10 August 2011 - 05:35 PM, said:



This is what I will be wearing,
http://a2.sphotos.ak...0_4880784_n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak...8_5593379_n.jpg

Be scared rioters I come for you!

Well as long as they laugh to death  :P

Dr_Nooooo #91 Posted 13 August 2011 - 11:27 AM

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View PostWolfgang_Kruger, on 13 August 2011 - 10:34 AM, said:

i'd love to help the police with an effective method.
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load this with 150mm shells of water or teargas, water cannon, or any other non lethal munition or option and it will solve the day's business.

E-100 TD ^^

but seriously ppl allways side with rioters, i side with the law.

Why not just load HE?

John_Armfeldt #92 Posted 13 August 2011 - 12:31 PM

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that's a thought ain't it?

after just 1 shot i bet ppl wouldn't be so eager to loot and riot anymore ey?.

Wolfesblut #93 Posted 13 August 2011 - 01:55 PM

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Or generally say something that's unattractive to hear  <_<
Why not send in death squads as well. Welcome to Somalia.

Aqnde #94 Posted 13 August 2011 - 07:46 PM

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View PostDr_Nooooo, on 13 August 2011 - 11:27 AM, said:

Why not just load HE?

Too much collateral damage.

Cobra6 #95 Posted 14 August 2011 - 04:33 PM

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Wolfesblut #96 Posted 14 August 2011 - 06:36 PM

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Look at the bright side:
At least they aren't as stupid as canadians, which did the same after a defeat in a hockey match :D

Stwic #97 Posted 14 August 2011 - 11:16 PM

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View PostWolfesblut, on 14 August 2011 - 06:36 PM, said:

Look at the bright side:
At least they aren't as stupid as canadians, which did the same after a defeat in a hockey match :D
You obv haven't heard about Sicily...

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View PostXxBigEyexX, on 08 August 2011 - 11:30 PM, said:

Are the riots justified [yes]/[no]

It's not that simple.

The problem is people are thick (and i'm not just talking about the rioters).  Active dimming of the human race is an atrocity.

It should be clear that these riots are symptomatic of a deeper problem.  Civil unrest is not a product of boredom.   Obviously there is a deeper issue at play.   The worlds populous at large is discontent.  These riots are hardly an isolated incident.  They're a localized escalation of a trend that has been ongoing for some time. Furthermore the police aren't simply being complicit. They have  been actively involved in inciting the dissent! And if you pay that fact some mind you should be shocked by the implications.

So i submit to you: why is the majority of the worlds population discontent? And why are the powers that be exasperating the fact?

The two most common views on these riots i see reported are:
A- It is the immigrants fault.  
B- The police should use more force.

So the people are displaying out right hatred to their fellow man, and actively calling for totalitarian control.   I wonder why?

I must say, I am surprised that people here are so blind.   Since world war one there has been a constant attack on the hearts and minds of the population. Allow me to quote some of the more famous depictions of this.  Quotes that people of a war-gaming site should be all to familiar with...

"...Divide and Conquer..."

"...Order out of Chaos..."

"...Control the media, control the mind..."

"...The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting..."

"...The strongest and most effective force in guaranteeing the long-term maintenance of power is not violence in all the forms deployed by the dominant to control the dominated, but consent in all the forms in which the dominated acquiesce in their own domination..."


These famous quotes, of which there are thousands, weren't written for fun.  They are guidelines. They are taken seriously.  I know we play tanks and expect war to be as apparent as a cannon going bang.  But the reality is that we (humanity) have developed our strategic offensive to the point that you can't even see it.

I ask you, honestly, does anyone doubt that there is a concentrated effort to actively goad the opinions and actions of the population at large?
Does anyone think that Propaganda, Manufactured Consent is NOT active and effective?

Do you really think that the rioters are just an isolate bunch of silly people, with no causal catalyst?

Think about it.

"...For in reason, all government without the consent of the governed is the very definition of slavery..."

So dose the government have our consent?  
The gov't does not have my consent to cut public librarys, schools and hospitals yet buy themselves bigger houses using public money.
The gov't does not have my consent to form the Export Credit Guarantee Department (ECGD) and then use our taxpayers money to cover defaulted payments on things like the Yusufeli and Ilisu dams.
The gov't does not have my consent to supply arms to developing countries, and then use the taxpayers money to cover the cost meaning WE paid for the slaughter of many innocent people.

The fact that most people aren't even aware of the ECGD and UK's arms export only supports the notion that the public is ill-informed thus unable to warrant consent..

So, if the Government governing without consent of the people is indicative of slavery - perhaps the riots we see are simply the slaves in revolt.

What I have presented here to you today is not an armchair analysis.  I didn't simply consider this between some games of WOT and reading the Daily Mail. I hope people will recognize that a more sophisticated thought process other than; 'it's the immigrants fault,'  or  'we just need more oppressive policing,' is required.

Indulge me another quote and allow me to answer my leading question...

"...The only sure bulwark of continuing liberty is a government strong enough to protect the interests of the people, and a people strong enough and well enough informed to maintain its sovereign control over the government..."

So, why is the majority of the worlds population discontent? And why are the powers that be exasperating the fact?

I believe it is because we are seeing what little liberty and sovereignty still afforded the people being stripped. Dissent is both a symptom and catalyst of this fact.

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tigerstreak #99 Posted 26 August 2011 - 06:30 AM

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driv4r #100 Posted 26 August 2011 - 04:58 PM

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Nice one, especially the ones of looting behind Cameron's back and looters stealing cats! http://forum.worldof...e_veryhappy.gif

But my answer to the poll was no (answered it few weeks ago).

EDIT: That's my 200th post, which is obviously a big anniversary!!!http://cdn-frm-eu.wa...Smile_great.gif Pity that it isn't anything special but hey, you can't always post masterpieces.




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