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Timopanda #21 Posted 10 August 2011 - 07:05 AM

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Im rolling with t-44 now, 110k xp left to t-54, imo t-44 is a fine tank and the only slight buff i would request is slight decrease of aiming time. The aiming time of 100mm d10t is 2,5 secs now which is not a good thing for medium, i would like to see it decreased from 2,5-->2,0 sec but im fine with it now.

Golf_Sierra #22 Posted 10 August 2011 - 09:03 AM

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Hello all,

Starting to grind in my T43, dont want the same 100 mm barrel for t44 ( third tank to have it...)
I know that it can be possible to fight with, but it would be nice to solve this problem by giving us the "1945" model, or the "LB1".

Do you think we can start a topic "LB1 for T44", or "better stock gun for T44"?
Something like this...
This topic is old, and nothing has changed.So it's time i think.
You dt cry you have nothing, but remember you spend money for this, and more than a simple PC game.


I cant open it because i dt have the tank for the moment. But the  same gun to travel 3 tiers is a non sense.
Dont want it as a tier VIII, that's all.
Expect someone will hear that.
And dt tell me buy the tank, play it, it's possible, nananinana....tier 8 is tier 8, not 6.

Dt want a leopold on my tank, want something a little better to start with.
Thanks  ;)

bgraczyk #23 Posted 11 August 2011 - 03:07 PM

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View Postdasta, on 09 August 2011 - 06:58 AM, said:

Its only me or T44 is very weak on his tier.Ammo rack explosion,low gun dmg etc...If i face med 1 or 2 tier below me i got always destroyed and he have 70-80% HP left...

When i face Panthers ,Pershing ,Patton = i got destroyed like loltractor...

Impossible - I think u should try heavy line ,meds. is not your playstyle maybe.
ammorack is a problem in this tank ,the same as radicoulus module dammage on panther ,but I really like panther despite that on 1 vs 1 almost always loose with T 44.
gun dammage is almost the same as panther so that is not the problem , so that,s not the problem .
U cannot play it like normall scout ,u mast be clever use terrain ,observe battle , find ur spot and try be a little annoying insect ,never engage from front ,sneak behind or side hit and disapeir,find another target which does not expecting u and do the same.
U are not in heavy tank do not fight ennemy from start to dead, be smart :Smile_honoring:

mondog #24 Posted 12 August 2011 - 08:58 AM

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The ammo rack on the t44 is no worse than the king tiger. It's really not much of a problem when compared with other non soviet tanks.

Edward_Teague #25 Posted 12 August 2011 - 06:58 PM

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View Postdasta, on 09 August 2011 - 06:58 AM, said:

Its only me or T44 is very weak on his tier.Ammo rack explosion,low gun dmg etc...If i face med 1 or 2 tier below me i got always destroyed and he have 70-80% HP left...

When i face Panthers ,Pershing ,Patton = i got destroyed like loltractor...

Get a 122mm, rammer+vents+stabilizer=one wicked tank!!!
Same alpha like a E50 with mobility to boot. Forget the WAR.
Rof is a bit shit though...

Love this tank, ppl are just too l2p with it though.

SchurkjeBoefje #26 Posted 12 August 2011 - 07:24 PM

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The 44 is slightly undergunned compared to it's direct competitors, but it's not a bad tank by any means.

It's not a crime that a Russian machine draws the short straw on Guns for a change. Though I'd like to see a little tweak to the 44's IDIOT secondary stats. It's been suggested before that the 44 should get the 54's standard gun. Just a little tweak to keep things a bit in line.

Sotahullu #27 Posted 12 August 2011 - 07:43 PM

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Troll...  :P
Somebody actully complaining about how undergunned T-44 is...


So yeah T8 mediums are some weird ducks in the great battlefield:

Panther II sniping with uncanny ability to bounce even 152mm shells...
M26 rolling on tracks when others ignore it...
T-44 blowing stuff up before bursting into flame...

So yeah... Compare to other tanks before complaining so you would see how some tanks are really   :lol:  
I often focus more to killing T-44 than T-54 because little bit more killy  B)

del500044138 #28 Posted 12 August 2011 - 07:45 PM

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View PostEdward_Teague, on 12 August 2011 - 06:58 PM, said:

Get a 122mm, rammer+vents+stabilizer=one wicked tank!!!
This! Although I went WAR instead of stabilizer, not a single ammorack death since I got it.  :Smile-hiding:

I'm actually glad the US and German meds got dropped down a tier, I actually have a fun challenge now. T8 heavies are still a complete nightmare but the satisfaction when you do solo one is just too great  :Smile-playing:

realkaischi #29 Posted 13 August 2011 - 10:46 PM

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what can i say? Both on El Halluf: With elite Kingtiger: 2x shoots at back of low hp T-44: bounced, next shoot: kill.
Elite Ferdinand: 3x shoots at close T-44 from above: just tracks off, next shoot when t44 was at 60%: kill. ). And both times the T44 was too busy to look at me, but was standing still...(no auto aim used of course)
always when i encounter a t44 i turn to be a noob or what??  :Smile_harp: This is so crazy that ive found my way to the soviet medium tank forum... :Smile-izmena:

phawkins1988 #30 Posted 14 August 2011 - 01:20 AM

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T-44 is fine.  If it had a better gun there'd be no advantage to the Pershing or Panther 2 to compensate for their disadvantages.  Only potential buff I'd like is the ability to mount the 100mm stock (in fact, I'd like to do something similar for all nation's medium tanks.  So you can mount the best gun from the previous tank immediately).

Yes, it's annoying using the same gun 3 tiers in a row, but the 100mm had no business on a T-34-85 anyway and made that tank a bit OP imo.

Hornet331 #31 Posted 14 August 2011 - 02:09 AM

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The T44 is one of the few russian tanks that need a certain skill level to be decent in it, mainly for the first time they get a gun that is not autoaim firendly in tiers they get put.

I have now over 320 battels in retail and over 400 in beta with the T44, and the t44 is by far bad... as my 63% winrate shows. You need a certain style to be successful. T44 has best accel, best manuverbility and slowest profile so best camo of all T8 tanks..

Use it.. you can get in place faster tan anyone else, and those who can you usualy can defeate with ease (well despite T9 mediums, but noone expects to kill those)

Using the 122mm goes against everything the T44 stands, its a hit an run tank that also can brawl using its superrior mobility. Using the 122mm takes away that, espeical because the 122mm has very bad dpm...

My only whishlist for the T44 would be, that we can research the LB1 from the T54... but that probably would make it op...  :Smile-hiding:

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D10T mod1945 would be the a better balanced option. Or LB1 with a reduced RoF compared to T54, but I think around 8,5-9,00 RoF would be needed for T44.

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Pather is much worse, i killed 3 panthers,when i was playing my t34(not the-85 one) Panther was just too slow ,and it burnt... every nation has diffrent tanks,and you have to use your pros ,and try to hide cons(wet ammo rack etc.)

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View Postdasta, on 09 August 2011 - 06:58 AM, said:

Its only me or T44 is very weak on his tier.Ammo rack explosion,low gun dmg etc...If i face med 1 or 2 tier below me i got always destroyed and he have 70-80% HP left...

When i face Panthers ,Pershing ,Patton = i got destroyed like loltractor...

Its not a joke if u know how to use it.http://cdn-frm-eu.wa.../Smile_harp.gif

dasta #35 Posted 15 August 2011 - 10:42 AM

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i can agree that WAR help me alot(got intaled it after iam getting one shoted by Tier 6-7 tanks...)

Anyway T44 dmg its too low compared to the other mediums tank.100 mm its not realy good gun on this tier.

phawkins1988 #36 Posted 15 August 2011 - 03:29 PM

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View Postdasta, on 15 August 2011 - 10:42 AM, said:

i can agree that WAR help me alot(got intaled it after iam getting one shoted by Tier 6-7 tanks...)

Anyway T44 dmg its too low compared to the other mediums tank.100 mm its not realy good gun on this tier.
Soviet 100mm = 230dmg per shot
German long 88 = 220 dmg per shot
US 90mm = 240 dmg per shot

You're talking rubbish.

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Damage is ok, just RoF and penetration are both a little low.So I think a little more RoF would be a good adjustment. Say 9rpm.

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View Postphawkins1988, on 15 August 2011 - 03:29 PM, said:

Soviet 100mm = 230dmg per shot
German long 88 = 220 dmg per shot
US 90mm = 240 dmg per shot

You're talking rubbish.

Russian pen/rof 175/235/50(mm)/7.06-8.5(r/m) = dpm ~ 1790
German long 88 pen/rof 203/237/44(mm)/9,84(r/m) = dpm ~ 2165
US 90mm pen/rof 180/268/45(mm)/8.4(r/m) = dpm ~ 2015

So both US and German tanks have better penetration and better dpm. You mister are talking rubbish. It is the overall experience that matters and these 3 tanks are balanced.

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View Postmeltybg, on 15 August 2011 - 04:16 PM, said:

Russian pen/rof 175/235/50(mm)/7.06-8.5(r/m) = dpm ~ 1790
German long 88 pen/rof 203/237/44(mm)/9,84(r/m) = dpm ~ 2165
US 90mm pen/rof 180/268/45(mm)/8.4(r/m) = dpm ~ 2015

So both US and German tanks have better penetration and better dpm. You mister are talking rubbish. It is the overall experience that matters and these 3 tanks are balanced.
Well you've used the lowest rof figure for the T-44, not sure that's accurate.  if it's 8.5 rather than 7.06 the dpm isn't much behind at all.

In any case, dps isn't so important when you get to tier 8+ (see how lots of people prefer the objects gun to the jagdtiger's despite the dps advantage of the latter).  I agree that the 100mm is the worst of the tier 8 med guns, I just disagree with the specific point that was raised (ie. not enough damage).  It's the aim time, lack of accuracy compared to the 88, and lack of pen that makes it worse.

Agreed that the tier 8 meds are balanced too.

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The T44 should have 8 RPM with the second turret. If it would have 8,5 it would be better balanced.




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