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Fluffy_The_Destroyer #1 Posted 04 June 2015 - 08:29 PM

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Do it WG... DO IT! give me a reason to play this god foraken tank! it has no roll in this game thanks to you screwing its worthless gun over. its worse than Type 59 and T-34-2 in every possible way. Noobmeter states its THE WORST tier 8 medium tank in game! lower than Spershing!

 

Give it the 100mm M-36 Gun and Increase its armor to Type 59 levels. -5 gundep. better than Type 59 to compensate for the preff MM loss it will recieve as compensation. id play the heck out of this tank if you could give me a gun i can actually use.

 

Or just remove it from the shops and refund me the money that could work too.

 

Edit: Or just give me the gun.. that would be nice too.

 

Edit: nice negrep, care to explain why you did so without giving an answer or opinion? no you wont will you, coward.


Edited by Fluffy_The_Destroyer, 04 June 2015 - 08:56 PM.


Dr_Grigz #2 Posted 04 June 2015 - 10:43 PM

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I mean it aint that bad, the gun depresion well it doesent exist. But there are spots on most of the maps where you have little bumps which you can use to go hulldown in it and put the gun to work, also for the lack of gun depresion just back your tank up a slope and it will give you gun depression. It is playable.

Fluffy_The_Destroyer #3 Posted 04 June 2015 - 10:53 PM

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Its the worst tank at tier 8 in stats. why should it not be buffed?  its a fustrating tank that people do poorly in. when a Spershing is above this and the T-34-2 you know a tank needs buffing.

Dr_Grigz #4 Posted 04 June 2015 - 10:58 PM

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I'll just leave this here  :trollface: 250 pen doe

Fluffy_The_Destroyer #5 Posted 04 June 2015 - 11:26 PM

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View Postxxgrigzxx, on 04 June 2015 - 10:58 PM, said:

I'll just leave this here  :trollface: 250 pen doe

 

HEAT dont work with such a derpy gun with no armor.  only tanks that have this gun can use it because they have armor and larger HP pools (heavys). every medium who can use 122mm dont use it because 100mm is better. but T-34-3 has no choice. a tier 6 tank has better gun stats than T-34-3 gun. it states the teir 6 tank has a tier 7 gun, but T-34-3 is classed as a tier 8 gun with worse stats? logic?

Eokokok #6 Posted 05 June 2015 - 07:56 AM

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It has no choice, also, it is a premium, so this means you neither did not had to get one to grind other tanks with it nor should be surprised about the gun it uses.

 

It has 122mm, it will always have 122mm, this whole topic is just nonsense. The last part especially, which tier 6 has better gun?

 

It might need a mobility buff, but changing gun is deffinitly out of the question.



Vicroline #7 Posted 05 June 2015 - 07:29 PM

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This Tank is crap don't waste your time and buy it. The gun is horrible inaccurate and has low pen for its tier. I wish I could get my money back!

Fluffy_The_Destroyer #8 Posted 06 June 2015 - 03:34 AM

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I was gifted it a while ago.. i try play it but then remember why i dont. the tanks a waste of a garage slot. its requires unicum hands to make this turd heap work. me and the majority of players are not unicums. so why make a unicum only tank?

 

@ Eokokok, the SU-100 122mm gun has better stats in all catagories.



pihip #9 Posted 06 June 2015 - 04:40 PM

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Sorry but what you're asking for is absurd.

T-34-3 is already better than T-34-2 (with the 122mm), giving it the 100mm M-63, better gun depression and better armor would make it better than Type 59, who cares if it has to lose its preferential matchmaking if it can get that much stuff.

 

Then again, I do agree that this is a pretty meh tank. I used to own one for some time and even had some good games in it, but overall it's just a poor attempt to give China a premium medium.



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View Postpihip, on 06 June 2015 - 04:40 PM, said:

Sorry but what you're asking for is absurd.

T-34-3 is already better than T-34-2 (with the 122mm), giving it the 100mm M-63, better gun depression and better armor would make it better than Type 59, who cares if it has to lose its preferential matchmaking if it can get that much stuff.

 

Then again, I do agree that this is a pretty meh tank. I used to own one for some time and even had some good games in it, but overall it's just a poor attempt to give China a premium medium.

 

Type 59 has better armor all around. including turret. T-34-3 cannot even sidescrape because of its bad side armor. No sane person would use 122mm on T-34-2 and statisticly T-34-3 and T-34-2 are the worst tier 8 mediums in game (noobmeter), T-34-3 being rock bottom.

 

T-34-3 is worse than T-34-2 even with preff MM. thats just how bad the tank is. i dont want a normal 100mm on this tank because then it would make it a poor mans Type 59 and i wont accept that. it should have something to give it a fighting chance in the current meta of "gundep or gtfo". -3 gundep kills this tank and then the 250 HEAT ruins it further. theres a reason heavy tanks can use 122mm guns and mediums cannot.

 

Edit: even if it got 440 alpha i still wouldent consider it buffed. the guns broken and unusable, fustrating. as long as it keeps that low pen, bad gold ammo and -3 gundep with 5 days aimtime the tank is useless for me.


Edited by Fluffy_The_Destroyer, 06 June 2015 - 07:47 PM.


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View PostFluffy_The_Destroyer, on 06 June 2015 - 07:44 PM, said:

Type 59 has better armor all around. including turret. T-34-3 cannot even sidescrape because of its bad side armor. No sane person would use 122mm on T-34-2 and statisticly T-34-3 and T-34-2 are the worst tier 8 mediums in game (noobmeter), T-34-3 being rock bottom.

 

T-34-3 is worse than T-34-2 even with preff MM. thats just how bad the tank is. i dont want a normal 100mm on this tank because then it would make it a poor mans Type 59 and i wont accept that. it should have something to give it a fighting chance in the current meta of "gundep or gtfo". -3 gundep kills this tank and then the 250 HEAT ruins it further. theres a reason heavy tanks can use 122mm guns and mediums cannot.

 

Edit: even if it got 440 alpha i still wouldent consider it buffed. the guns broken and unusable, fustrating. as long as it keeps that low pen, bad gold ammo and -3 gundep with 5 days aimtime the tank is useless for me.

 

Both WZ-120 and 121 are standard medium tanks yet they mount 122mm guns with HEAT as gold ammo and -3 gun depression.

 

They're also Chinese like T-34-3, so someone going down that line would have a reason to buy this thing and bother to learn how to play it - it may not be the best credit maker, but at least it's a crew trainer with a playstyle that contemplates poor aimtime, long reloads and horribad gun depression, which is what players will have to live with if they research the Chinese med line.

But anyway, you said the tank was a gift, no one forces you to play it. Heck you can simply sell it for some easy credits.



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View Postpihip, on 06 June 2015 - 09:03 PM, said:

 

Both WZ-120 and 121 are standard medium tanks yet they mount 122mm guns with HEAT as gold ammo and -3 gun depression.

 

They're also Chinese like T-34-3, so someone going down that line would have a reason to buy this thing and bother to learn how to play it - it may not be the best credit maker, but at least it's a crew trainer with a playstyle that contemplates poor aimtime, long reloads and horribad gun depression, which is what players will have to live with if they research the Chinese med line.

But anyway, you said the tank was a gift, no one forces you to play it. Heck you can simply sell it for some easy credits.

 

Difference is, they get good AP pen. T-34-3 Does not. tier 8 tanks with 175pen tend to struggle allot, yeh the WZ-120 and 121 get better guns and armor (slightly) but nobody plays them still, never see them in my matches, wonder why?

Edited by Fluffy_The_Destroyer, 06 June 2015 - 11:43 PM.


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They should have gone with 221mm APCR as standard ammunition and normal matchmaking if you ask me...

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View Postsutyomatic, on 07 June 2015 - 08:40 AM, said:

They should have gone with 221mm APCR as standard ammunition and normal matchmaking if you ask me...

 

That would be nice too.. but also add some side armor for sidescraping, around 70 or 80mm(same as Type 59)

Comrade_Renamon #15 Posted 07 June 2015 - 06:41 PM

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I don't see why they couldn't do what they do with the IS-5 currently, that one uses the same gun but higher penetration, heck if the tank would lose the premium MM for higher penetration I would take it. Comparing it to the WZ-120 is silly, while the two tanks afaik have the same play style the WZ has a gun where this is justified, it has horrible accuracy but has good pen tagged along.

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buff gun + depression ---> remove preff MM

Ulfhedinn_ #17 Posted 28 June 2015 - 01:52 AM

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I reckon it needs to keep it's preferential MM cuz with enhanced fuel its got enough speed to have an edge, but it wouldn't at tier 10. There's more to this tank than it's gun. It's a bullying flank skirmisher, not a sniper (although it can snipe well on flanks). It's best up close to enemy, use terrain to stay safe, spot, people are scared of the gun & don't often push back, they try & trade fire which you don't need to return, your team mates do it for you (save your shot in case they push). If you aggressively take a problem position, defend/hold it & spot it can work. I got 7.5k spotting dmg active scouting / skirmishing top tier on Malinovka in mine, plus nearly 2k dmg with a few opportunistic shots + mopping up some Cromwells at the end. It's a great anti-scout & hvy-scout / skirmisher. Or it's good for supporting tanks that are pushing cuz it's got a good burst of speed, wait till they've engaged enemy & taken fire, rush past and hit enemy side or rear IS6 style, turn their turrets, drive past & safe and let/hope your team mates push on them with free shots. I don't focus on hitting big dmg, just hit it when it's available but otherwise just play to be a problem for the enemy, still get light blue WN8 & 51%+ wr, which is fair enough for a prem.

 

And the SP is ace too, I've only ever played my SP between the big nerf & this recent buff, so supposedly when it's been weakest, I do fine in it. Again though, as a pushy problem for the other team rather than trying to hit dmg sniping.


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t-34-3 ihas better gun stats than t-34-2 and t-44 in 122mm config, it should have full mm...

Sh0rt_FuSe #19 Posted 28 June 2015 - 04:44 AM

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Useless tank just like STA-2..money stealers

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View Postjoyuesp, on 28 June 2015 - 03:02 AM, said:

t-34-3 ihas better gun stats than t-34-2 and t-44 in 122mm config, it should have full mm...

 

I don't think gun soft stats alone are a good grade to decide premium MM on, after all both of them are more mobile and have better camo. Also, T-44 has -5 depression with the 122mm :ohmy:

 

Besides, I thought the general consensus was that 1: both of those should use 100mm guns and 2: they're both terrible anyway? That is if the forum opinions are to be believed:P






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