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Community #1 Posted 19 June 2015 - 03:14 PM

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Celebrate the success of one of the most important operations undergone on the Eastern Front with a dedicated special!

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Jesterix_ #2 Posted 19 June 2015 - 03:18 PM

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Excellent, I have several German and Russian tanks to buy and retrain crew for. 3X is always welcome 

 

Also it doesn't say it in the post but the ISU comes with 100% Crew and BIA. 


Edited by _Steppin_Razor_, 19 June 2015 - 03:19 PM.


Ulfhedinn_ #3 Posted 19 June 2015 - 03:19 PM

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Ooo, a parade tank! Is that the omitted one? Will it have a super crew for free? That's too distracting, I was going to ask where our we-beat-the-French-Waterloo-celebration event was, but I'm too distracted now.

 

(edit - is it getting it's pen nerfed)?


Edited by Maxmk6, 19 June 2015 - 03:20 PM.


Plefsko #4 Posted 19 June 2015 - 03:22 PM

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I dont want ISU-122s, I have AT15A and I love it!

thwQ #5 Posted 19 June 2015 - 03:27 PM

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Days we had equipment discounts ..

radius77 #6 Posted 19 June 2015 - 03:31 PM

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That ISU has approx. 6,3 sec reload on 390dmg and tier VII ??? Unreal. So it can take down 1500 hp Tiger in less than 30 sec. 

And 20m better viewrange than SU-122-44.

Rly those new premiums are broken.



RambunctiousRat #7 Posted 19 June 2015 - 03:35 PM

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Can anyone confirm if this comes with the enhanced crew that the other Berlin trio tanks came with? There is nothing in the news item or the listing in the premium shop saying anything about the crew so I'm kind of assuming you don't get the enhanced crew with it :-(

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Steiner011 #8 Posted 19 June 2015 - 03:35 PM

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View PostthwQ, on 19 June 2015 - 02:27 PM, said:

Days we had equipment discounts ..

 

HEY , stop confusing ppl with equipment. Average player just wants to have fun driving Heavy, standing in the middle of field, while all the shells bounce off him. He doesn`t need equipment for that. In case he loses a battle , he will raise his voice regarding invisible tanks, and WG will promptly change maps like Prohorovka into this, to cater AVERAGE PLAYER.

 

conclusion : Average player needs NO EQUIPMENT, he needs corridors.

 

edit: i ran out of kappa`s


Edited by Steiner011, 19 June 2015 - 03:37 PM.


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View Postradius77, on 19 June 2015 - 03:31 PM, said:

That ISU has approx. 6,3 sec reload on 390dmg and tier VII ??? Unreal. So it can take down 1500 hp Tiger in less than 30 sec. 

And 20m better viewrange than SU-122-44.

Rly those new premiums are broken.

 

6.1 with bia rammer and vents

 

Its been a while since i actually had something worth to buy here.



McLear #10 Posted 19 June 2015 - 03:43 PM

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View Postradius77, on 19 June 2015 - 03:31 PM, said:

That ISU has approx. 6,3 sec reload on 390dmg and tier VII ??? Unreal. So it can take down 1500 hp Tiger in less than 30 sec. 

And 20m better viewrange than SU-122-44.

Rly those new premiums are broken.

 

The regular Tier 7 TD SU-152 gets the same gun/reload so whats your point about the gun ?

But you are right that it gets better armour, viewrange and soft stats then the SU-152, basicly making it a better copy of the SU-152. Premium vehicle > Normal vehicle, not pay to win at all right ?

 

But does it get a crew with Free BIA like the cromwell B got ?



Hedgehog1963 #11 Posted 19 June 2015 - 03:49 PM

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View PostMcLear, on 19 June 2015 - 02:43 PM, said:

 

 

But does it get a crew with Free BIA like the cromwell B got ?

 

Definitley need to know this because right now, second only to a Soviet heavy premium, a  Soviet heavy TD is the last thing I want.  The crew would be a deal breaker though.



Datenshi #12 Posted 19 June 2015 - 03:54 PM

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This tank is hmm...So compared to the SU-122-44 it's quite a bit less mobile and even tho the armor is generally thicker i suspect the SU is more likely to bounce due to proper armor angling. The ISU gets improved view range and ~238dpm more. I donno how i feel about this. The SU-122-44 is considered OP by a lot of people due to the ROF of that 122 but this tank is even worse.

 

Edit: Just read the post about the SU-152..it's true that the 122 is just as fast on that one so this might not be as bad as i initially thought. It's just a better tank overall tho. Aaaaand it has the proper crew setup for the ISU line so i kinda want to trade my SU-122-44 for this tank right now :) 


Edited by Datenshi, 19 June 2015 - 03:59 PM.


Cobra6 #13 Posted 19 June 2015 - 03:55 PM

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Crew training/retraining is always welcome, was hoping for camouflage discount but I guess maybe next weekend.

 

Might get the ISU-122 :)

 

ps guys: OFFER SAYS NOTHING ABOUT CREW SO IT'S NOT INCLUDED

 

Any reason I get negrepped for answerring a question?

 

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Edited by Cobra6, 21 June 2015 - 05:19 PM.


Fluffy_The_Destroyer #14 Posted 19 June 2015 - 04:00 PM

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Nice tank. shame i cant trade it for my SU-122-44. i hate that tank. never bounces, never hits, never pens because of its arty RNG cannon.

cracktrackflak #15 Posted 19 June 2015 - 04:00 PM

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Does the ISU122 come with the 100% BIA "Berlin crew" - or does it not?

 

Can WG kindly clarify this please?

 

 

 



Datenshi #16 Posted 19 June 2015 - 04:04 PM

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View PostFluffy_The_Destroyer, on 19 June 2015 - 04:00 PM, said:

Nice tank. shame i cant trade it for my SU-122-44. i hate that tank. never bounces, never hits, never pens because of its arty RNG cannon.

 

Come on man :P I bounce quite a bit on mine just angle it slightly. I can agree that 175mm pen might be annoying against some T8 and quite a few T9 but i've found it managable at least. The recent accuracy nerf didn't help the acc either that's true. But I'm sure this tank will miss/bounce just as many shots as the SU. I also suspect that the armor will be even less reliable due to crap angles.

 

 

Does anyone have numbers on gun depression/elevation? That's something i really dislike in the SU-122-44, the crap gun depression.


Edited by Datenshi, 19 June 2015 - 04:06 PM.


__Eric__ #17 Posted 19 June 2015 - 04:11 PM

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Yes, the ISU-122S comes with a 100% BIA crew, just like the other Berlin tanks (I just bought it).

 

On topic: Crew retrain discount, nice, I was waiting for that. Have several crews which need a new home.



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View PostDatenshi, on 19 June 2015 - 03:04 PM, said:

Does anyone have numbers on gun depression/elevation? That's something i really dislike in the SU-122-44, the crap gun depression.

-6°/+18° - same as regular SU-152.


Edited by Quaksen, 19 June 2015 - 04:14 PM.


PricelessPlayingPancake #19 Posted 19 June 2015 - 04:15 PM

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Reload with BIA , vents, rammer , food - 5.85  :justwait:

Datenshi #20 Posted 19 June 2015 - 04:21 PM

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View PostQuaksen, on 19 June 2015 - 04:14 PM, said:

-6°/+18° - same as regular SU-152.

 

Thanks m8. 

 

Well, I don't think this tank is "OP" it's basically just a slightly better(not the gun) SU-152 which can't use the 152mm derp(which I used). I'm pretty sure the SU-122-44 is the better tank in the end. However the fact that it has the proper crew setup makes it interesting..I'm gonna have to think about whether I'm gonna buy it or not.


Edited by Datenshi, 19 June 2015 - 04:22 PM.





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