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HulkAkbar #41 Posted 22 July 2015 - 09:07 AM

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i think this tank's downside is not aimtime or any kind of reload time. for me the main problem is shell velocity and acceleration, in some cases shells goes slower than my grandma

 

 

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Fluffy_The_Destroyer #42 Posted 22 July 2015 - 02:02 PM

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View PostTazilon, on 21 July 2015 - 10:05 PM, said:

 

Its terrain resistance is worse however.  The mere fact you are comparing it to the 13 75 says it all.  The 13 75 is at the bottom of the Tier VII barrel.

 

The issue isn't acceleration.  That could obviously improve but the real issue is lack of top speed.  It can't go fast.  It is exactly what it was designed to be: a light TD, not a Scout.  Wargaming blesses it with good View Range because they can pretty much make up any number they want for that.  58 km/h sucks for a Tier VII Scout and we all know that.

 

I understand you want SPIC to be buffed to M41 and T71 standards. im pretty sure all other tier 7 LT's want a piece of that cake. but i dont see how its fair only this tank being up there, they should to a mass LT rework to bring them all in line.

Tazilon #43 Posted 22 July 2015 - 02:13 PM

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View PostFluffy_The_Destroyer, on 22 July 2015 - 01:02 PM, said:

 

I understand you want SPIC to be buffed to M41 and T71 standards. im pretty sure all other tier 7 LT's want a piece of that cake. but i dont see how its fair only this tank being up there, they should to a mass LT rework to bring them all in line.

 

It really has nothing to do with the T71 or M41.  I think its worse shortcoming is its speed.



armholeeio #44 Posted 22 July 2015 - 04:51 PM

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I don't want another bulldog I just want a little more umpth to it and the 1375 so they don't feel like LT's that have been hobbled for no apparent reason . I like the different feel between tanks so one tank plays totally different from another, I also think a LT should be fast not all the same top speed but gets going pretty dam quick 

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SjaakSnel #45 Posted 23 July 2015 - 06:07 PM

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Oke i must say, use the auto-loader (to me, the auto-loader gun is much more reliable) , and use the tank as an ambuser. It is a different play style from the other light tanks but i like it.

BoletusLuridus #46 Posted 24 July 2015 - 09:48 AM

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I see no reason to hate this little piece of fun. It's better than AMX 13 90 - better depression, accuracy, penetration, smaller. They are equal in terms of mobility and alpha. Smaller drum is an advantage in present meta - it gives you all the flexibility you need. The only thing I absolutely abhor is the shitty HEAT premium rounds, but well, it's retarded WoT mechanics to blame.

Cataphractarii #47 Posted 24 July 2015 - 12:40 PM

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By the way, I take back anything bad I have said about Wargames in the past. :)

 

Cause they have given me 400 gold to retrain my former AFK panther crew back to light tanks from the medium 'premium 8.8'

All is forgiven, bless you WG :teethhappy:



King_Khazi #48 Posted 24 July 2015 - 03:35 PM

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Well I am persevering with it but I just had a game where I simply did not have the speed or manoeuvrability to get away from an IS7 which seems somewhat ridiculous to me.  I should add this is with fully upgraded tank, 100% crew and premium (chocolate) consumable.  

 

 


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john1953 #49 Posted 24 July 2015 - 06:21 PM

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Love this little beast. Without realising it ( no mods to see running total in game ) just completed LT15 on mines. 3,046 Damage (no gold), 1019 Spotting and 3,806XP (first victory of the day)

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Yet again I must say, the more I play this thing the more I hate it. It's lack of maneuverability makes it bloody useless. The carry potential of this tank is close to zero unless you have a team that actually knows what they're doing (which in WoT terms means that the RNG gods and MM must favor you A LOT). I recommend to change the class of this thing to TD, it has no place in LT section unless some parameters are changed.

Fluffy_The_Destroyer #51 Posted 25 July 2015 - 03:19 PM

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View Post8fly8, on 24 July 2015 - 06:43 PM, said:

Yet again I must say, the more I play this thing the more I hate it. It's lack of maneuverability makes it bloody useless. The carry potential of this tank is close to zero unless you have a team that actually knows what they're doing (which in WoT terms means that the RNG gods and MM must favor you A LOT). I recommend to change the class of this thing to TD, it has no place in LT section unless some parameters are changed.

 

LT's can carry games now? since when?

King_Khazi #52 Posted 25 July 2015 - 07:42 PM

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View PostFluffy_The_Destroyer, on 25 July 2015 - 02:19 PM, said:

 

LT's can carry games now? since when?

 

Certainly they can!

 

I've had a couple of decent games in SP1C now but not by trying to play it as a light tank!  However, I have only 3 wins out of 20 with it.  I switched to LTTB and won immediately.  I switched to Bulldog and won immediately.  In my view SP1C is completely outclassed by both.  

 

Anyone who is doing well with SP1C please, please  post replay and link

 

However, in any tier battle I would rather have an ELC tier 5 LT than SP1C.



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View PostKing_Khazi, on 25 July 2015 - 07:42 PM, said:

 

Certainly they can!

 

I've had a couple of decent games in SP1C now but not by trying to play it as a light tank!  However, I have only 3 wins out of 20 with it.  I switched to LTTB and won immediately.  I switched to Bulldog and won immediately.  In my view SP1C is completely outclassed by both.  

 

Anyone who is doing well with SP1C please, please  post replay and link

 

However, in any tier battle I would rather have an ELC tier 5 LT than SP1C.

 

Agree that the tank in the right situation can make a contribution. See my post above . Over 3K of damage and 1K spotting on mines. Happy to post a replay if someone tells me how this is done.

But on reflectiion once I had initially moved into position I probably only moved back and forward at the rock for most of the game not the expected light tank strategy.



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View Postjohn1953, on 25 July 2015 - 07:56 PM, said:

 

Agree that the tank in the right situation can make a contribution. See my post above . Over 3K of damage and 1K spotting on mines. Happy to post a replay if someone tells me how this is done.

But on reflectiion once I had initially moved into position I probably only moved back and forward at the rock for most of the game not the expected light tank strategy.

 

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View PostFluffy_The_Destroyer, on 25 July 2015 - 02:19 PM, said:

 

LT's can carry games now? since when?

 

You seem to be mistaking the SP I C for a LT, which it definitely is not. Light tanks can carry games very well. SP I C is just not one of the tanks that can do that in every game. It depends highly on the teams performance.

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View PostCataphractarii, on 24 July 2015 - 11:40 AM, said:

By the way, I take back anything bad I have said about Wargames in the past. :)

 

Cause they have given me 400 gold to retrain my former AFK panther crew back to light tanks from the medium 'premium 8.8'

All is forgiven, bless you WG :teethhappy:

 

i have to ask if you are serious because i haven't got any gold to retrain my old crew that they changed to the premium 8,8?

SilentFear #57 Posted 26 July 2015 - 07:00 PM

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Wierd lil tank i must say.

I kinda have fun whit it. Its the fact that its new and most player react in stupid ways when they see it.

 

The tank itself have a lot of problems.

For one its slow.. And i mean quite slow considering it have 10mm of armor. Most mediums are faster then you lol.

But then you have this cool gun depresion and that 240 bite on the gun...

But then you have the shell velocity that make you crindge every time you take a shot on more then 200 meters....

 

 

So i kinda like it - but it can do whit some soft buffs. Acceleration for one would be a good start, then maybe 2 sec in clip reload.

 

Anyway so far i find the tank to be if nothing else fun.



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View PostSilentFear, on 26 July 2015 - 07:00 PM, said:

Wierd lil tank i must say.

I kinda have fun whit it. Its the fact that its new and most player react in stupid ways when they see it.

 

The tank itself have a lot of problems.

For one its slow.. And i mean quite slow considering it have 10mm of armor. Most mediums are faster then you lol.

But then you have this cool gun depresion and that 240 bite on the gun...

But then you have the shell velocity that make you crindge every time you take a shot on more then 200 meters....

 

 

So i kinda like it - but it can do whit some soft buffs. Acceleration for one would be a good start, then maybe 2 sec in clip reload.

 

Anyway so far i find the tank to be if nothing else fun.

 

I think messing with the gun in any way would be very close to making it better than RU251. they have the same gun. RU has better mobility and gun stats to be honest. thats all it has over this tank. If they wont buff other LT's that are much worse than SPIC, i hightly doubt they will buff this LT.

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View PostFluffy_The_Destroyer, on 26 July 2015 - 08:25 PM, said:

 

I think messing with the gun in any way would be very close to making it better than RU251. they have the same gun. RU has better mobility and gun stats to be honest. thats all it has over this tank. If they wont buff other LT's that are much worse than SPIC, i hightly doubt they will buff this LT.

 

In my opinion all light tanks need to be closer to T71 and Bulldog in terms of combat power.

As the maps have become more and more restricted where vision and spoting is conserned - the scouts have become more and more a light tanks that need to do dmg.

 

And yes i found the french light tanks to be very wanting in quite a few regards.



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I love it. Though i play more the 13 90 due to cw, i have to say this is the more FUN tank i played.




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