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Is the T-34 a sacrifice to make the Russian bias stronker in all the other USSR tanks?


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StringWitch #1 Posted 12 August 2015 - 03:49 AM

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S-54: A mere 76mm with a monstrous 2.9 aim time and no particularly good (let alone good at all) dispersion stats to compensate.

ZiS-4: T-34 is a tier higher than T-28 and accelerates slower, yet it gets considerably worse dispersion stats across the board.

 

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KLguns #2 Posted 12 August 2015 - 06:10 AM

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I have no idea why a 2s loading time would be a bad thing??? and +400 dpm with way better armor and smaller size...

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Tenkaido #3 Posted 14 August 2015 - 07:40 PM

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The 57 mm has a tremendous DPM potential coupled with decent penetration (or great, if you opt for gold rounds). The dispersion values are a rather low price to pay for the ability to punish unsuspecting enemies. Not to mention the fact that unlike T-28, the T-34 isn't a huge paper HE magnet.

 

Overall, while T-34 isn't an over-performing beast like Soviet high tier vehicles, it is still fairly potent. If used by a competent player.



Wtcorp_ #4 Posted 17 August 2015 - 12:37 PM

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The T-34 is ridiculously good with the 57mm

Lycopersicon #5 Posted 21 August 2015 - 07:35 AM

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View PostTenkaido, on 14 August 2015 - 08:40 PM, said:

The 57 mm has a tremendous DPM potential coupled with decent penetration (or great, if you opt for gold rounds). The dispersion values are a rather low price to pay for the ability to punish unsuspecting enemies. Not to mention the fact that unlike T-28, the T-34 isn't a huge paper HE magnet.

 

Overall, while T-34 isn't an over-performing beast like Soviet high tier vehicles, it is still fairly potent. If used by a competent player.

 

I very seldom need APCR with this tank, AP goes through the front of any tier 5 when needed, and this mobility usually allows one to probe other angles of approach. Given my 57% WR with actually pretty meek WN8, I'd say it is an over-performing beast even in incompetent hands. It also seems that getting an ace tanker in T-34 requires one to carry a tier 7 game - meaning that this tank is able to do it on a regular basis. In other words, the tank is pretty damn OP.

Wtcorp_ #6 Posted 21 August 2015 - 07:39 AM

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Even in my noob hands, I'm getting purple wn8 in it. At long range it's useless but close up its ridiculous run

Im_Not_Here_ #7 Posted 04 September 2015 - 06:48 PM

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View PostLycopersicon, on 21 August 2015 - 07:35 AM, said:

 

I very seldom need APCR with this tank, AP goes through the front of any tier 5 when needed, and this mobility usually allows one to probe other angles of approach. Given my 57% WR with actually pretty meek WN8, I'd say it is an over-performing beast even in incompetent hands. It also seems that getting an ace tanker in T-34 requires one to carry a tier 7 game - meaning that this tank is able to do it on a regular basis. In other words, the tank is pretty damn OP.

 

I've managed to get the Ace Tanker few times by carrying the game in a tier 6 match, which was possible thanks to the enemy tomatoes in lightly armored tanks (JgPzIV, Crommie, VK 3601....etc)

____prophet____ #8 Posted 05 September 2015 - 09:52 AM

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"Is the T-34 a sacrifice to make the Russian bias stronker in all the other USSR tanks?"

 

A sacrifice while being the strongest of all tier 5 mediums? Not really! That 57mm DPM is just crazy and add to that the fact that the T-34 has no weaknesses, the thin hull armor can even bounce shots when there's enough angle.


Edited by alisuorittaja, 05 September 2015 - 09:53 AM.


ThePegasus1979 #9 Posted 08 September 2015 - 11:23 AM

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View PostStringWitch, on 12 August 2015 - 02:49 AM, said:

Is the T-34 a sacrifice to make the Russian bias stronker in all the other USSR tanks?

 

For sure a quick tank with very good camo + very solid viewrange, an excellent 57mm pen+DPM-monstergun that has the by far fastest flying standard shells of all Tier 5 meds (+200m/sec to second best, +400m/sec to worst non derp gun) combined with very nice armor is a sacrifice...

 

A damn hard to cope with sacrifice, that earns me 30k net per match, 3 MoEs within 70 games (together with 30x Ace Tanker), a WR of 70% and an WN8 of 4k. Yepp...what a sacrifice :P


Edited by ThePegasus1979, 08 September 2015 - 11:23 AM.


StringWitch #10 Posted 16 September 2015 - 01:13 AM

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Well my point was that the T-28 is better tier-for-tier and the 76mm is abysmal, which is to say yes it's OP but why is it less OP than most of the other Soviet vehicles around its MM range despite being one of the most famous and numerous tanks ever?

Edited by StringWitch, 16 September 2015 - 01:15 AM.


leoneazzurro #11 Posted 16 September 2015 - 08:11 AM

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T-28 however has no armour whatsoever, everythng (including HE) will cripple it very easily, whle T-34 is more forgiving. T-28 is more capable in good hands, and useless in a bad driver. I agree that T-34 has excellent DPM and no other very strong ponts (maybe camo if you are able to use it) but t has also no obvious weaknesses, for a medium tank.

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View PostStringWitch, on 12 August 2015 - 02:49 AM, said:

S-54: A mere 76mm with a monstrous 2.9 aim time and no particularly good (let alone good at all) dispersion stats to compensate.

ZiS-4: T-34 is a tier higher than T-28 and accelerates slower, yet it gets considerably worse dispersion stats across the board.

 

What's going on!

 

Everyone uses the 57mm ...

thepuma2012 #13 Posted 18 September 2015 - 11:04 PM

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how about the tier 7 medium tank, T-43....  should I try it?

Ntec5 #14 Posted 29 October 2015 - 05:36 PM

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T-34 is a-fcking-mazing! As expected of a soviet tank in a game made in post-soviet country... At first I had doubts but once I got it I really liked it...

Erapin #15 Posted 27 March 2016 - 10:44 AM

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I've picked up this little tank again - It used to be one of my best tier 5 mediums in the past, but now... It's just beastly. You can absolutely bully any tier 5 in it, and even tier 6 mediums will have to respect the fearsome DPM it can output. With judicious use of APCR, even the Japanese OP-monsters will feel its sting.

 

Just lovely. Have re-bought and re-sold it before. Now I'll probably keep it. Maybe ;)



Isharial #16 Posted 28 March 2016 - 02:47 PM

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one of the best T5 mediums imo

sad I put my crew in object 416, don't want to run it without sixth sense again :(


 

that 57mm gun can kill pretty much anything 1 on 1, EXP could be hard, but a lot of useless drivers in them out there, XP piñata's

its got decent camo, and good speed so relocating and sniping in T6/7 games isn't too hard either

in fact the tank comes into a whole new zone in T7 games, guns still useful there, and no one see's you as a threat, until they look at how many kills you have :P






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